Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Aaron Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26-Mar-08, at 8:19 AM, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > > Aaron's suggestion a month ago still makes quite some > > sense to me. > > This discussion has gotten so overblown that I don't even remember > what this suggestio

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Aaron Cooper
On 26-Mar-08, at 8:19 AM, Brian Schweitzer wrote: > Aaron's suggestion a month ago still makes quite some > sense to me. This discussion has gotten so overblown that I don't even remember what this suggestion was! Any chance you could restate it for us? :) -Aaron ___

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Leiv Hellebo wrote: >> The issuing label, Arte Nova - which >> is a budget label with good theft (at least they had at the time) Oh my :( The Norwegian "teft" translates to "flair". Sorry. > A couple of questions: > > 1. Can we agree

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New release-url AR (or AR modification), "Has c.c. artwork at"

2008-03-26 Thread Philipp Wolfer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Brian Schweitzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good point. I'm not familiar with that license, or most of the others > you're thinking of; any chance you could help out with a list of them, > so we have them available to implement in a drop down? > Yes, it shou

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New release-url AR (or AR modification), "Has c.c. artwork at"

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Philipp Wolfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Brian Schweitzer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Either add the creative commons licensing options as checkbox + > > dropdown options under the current "has coverart" AR, or as a > >

Re: [mb-style] RFC: New release-url AR (or AR modification), "Has c.c. artwork at"

2008-03-26 Thread Philipp Wolfer
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Brian Schweitzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either add the creative commons licensing options as checkbox + > dropdown options under the current "has coverart" AR, or as a > fallback, add a new AR type for cc licensed coverart. > I generally would like to see

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Lauri Watts
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could we > simply strike the current #1 of BSNS, and replace it with wording such > as > > "Not all releases which could possibly be described as a 'box set' > should be entered. Please see [What Defines a Uniqu

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Brian Schweitzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Brian Schweitzer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > But yes, I am in favor of merging away

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Schweitzer wrote: > > It's that "intent that something be a release" that I think matters. > > You quoted dmppanda earlier saying: > > > Such discs (when considered independently from the nice paper around) > *are

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Bram van Dijk
+1 Brian Schweitzer schreef: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Brian Schweitzer >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> But yes, I am in favor of merging away only the class Oliver described >>> as "b

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Chris B
On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Brian Schweitzer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But yes, I am in favor of merging away only the class Oliver described > > as "bundles". A box set has a unique identity, packagi

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: > It's that "intent that something be a release" that I think matters. You quoted dmppanda earlier saying: Such discs (when considered independently from the nice paper around) *are exactly the same as the standalone* (same packaging, same discids, obviously same pweeds, s

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Brian Schweitzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But yes, I am in favor of merging away only the class Oliver described > as "bundles". A box set has a unique identity, packaging, > discographic relevance, etc. A "bundle" only has an identity at all > because some

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Brian Schweitzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Lauri Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > But cover art includes the title on the front, a

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Wed, M

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Chris B
On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 26/03/2008,

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: > What you're describing is what most depictions here have still > described as a box set. Question: Would the Mozart "White Box" set > be what you're describing? It's quite clearly defined and sold as a > box, though Naxos does still have the individual CD cat #'s on th

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Bram van Dijk
Brian omitted one point Chris B was making which I happen to agree on: "we're going over the same points again and again. at this point you have to reword your RFC to specifically address non-bundles, or accept that we don't all agree on this issue." I think this is needed, though I agree with Br

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The only one I ca

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Andrew Conkling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Brian Schweitzer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:57 AM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Brian Schweitzer wrote: > > > > > Th

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Chris B
On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only one I can see my agreeing to merge away as is directed by > > these guidelines is #1.

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: You're WAY out of line. yes ;) ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't care to answer your rather uninteresting remarks regards myself > and my practice, and please do trawl my edits and edit notes, I believe > you won't find many of those suggestions. > > As for your shiftyness, I h

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Andrew Conkling
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Brian Schweitzer < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:57 AM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Brian Schweitzer wrote: > > The tracklists, when we have identified earlier > > > releases, do match entirely. But this is all irrelev

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Chris B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only one I can see my agreeing to merge away as is directed by > these guidelines is #1. But the wording of the guidelines - esp the > BSNS version - dependin

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
I don't care to answer your rather uninteresting remarks regards myself and my practice, and please do trawl my edits and edit notes, I believe you won't find many of those suggestions. As for your shiftyness, I hope this is clearer: "Fuck you" Brian Schweitzer wrote: > Now I also would take is

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Chris B
On 26/03/2008, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only one I can see my agreeing to merge away as is directed by these guidelines is #1. But the wording of the guidelines - esp the BSNS version - depending on your interpretation of them, can and is being used to get rid of the other

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Brian Schweitzer
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:29 AM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Schweitzer wrote: > >> > Instead, what's being done is, one by one as the discs are being > >> > entered by a different editor, other editors are trying to ID what the > >> > original release of that single disc

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Change BoxSetNameStyle

2008-03-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: >> > Instead, what's being done is, one by one as the discs are being >> > entered by a different editor, other editors are trying to ID what the >> > original release of that single disc was, and the adding editor then >> > is being "encouraged" to rename that single di