Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Stephen wrote: > There is currently no guideline on how to use work types in popular music. As > discussed on mb-style, it is language dependent whether all works in popular > music are 'song' or if some are 'song' and some are 'instrumental'. If all > works are

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread jesus2099
Why wouldn’t we be able to type a work as SONG or as INSTRUMENTAL ? cf. I. for INSTRUMENTAL and V. for VOCAL in http://www.minc.gr.jp/minc-bin/alb_lst1?ALBUMTITLE=%96P%97%83%97%D9%93%B5&SRCHTYPE=&ARTISTNAME= BTW I think they chose better names than SONG over there. VOCAL vs. INSTRUMENTAL rules. --

Re: [mb-style] RFV-STYLE 122: Artist intent rewrite

2012-06-25 Thread practik
practik wrote > > I've completely rewritten the Artist Intent guideline, hopefully making it > clearer and more logically structured. Since posting the RFC, I added one > line about Japanese releases; otherwise nothing has changed. > > Details in Jira: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYL

Re: [mb-style] RFV STYLE-120: New work type: "Film score"

2012-06-25 Thread practik
+1 -- View this message in context: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/RFV-STYLE-120-New-work-type-Film-score-tp4636573p4636679.html Sent from the MusicBrainz - Style mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBra

Re: [mb-style] RFV-STYLE 122: Artist intent rewrite

2012-06-25 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:47 PM, practik wrote: > > practik wrote >> >> I've completely rewritten the Artist Intent guideline, hopefully making it >> clearer and more logically structured.  Since posting the RFC, I added one >> line about Japanese releases; otherwise nothing has changed. >> >> Det

[mb-style] RFV STYLE-114: Soundtrack style

2012-06-25 Thread Alex Mauer
This is the RFV for the proposed Soundtrack style. Since the most recent RFC I added a description of what releases it applies to. JIRA: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-114 Previous discussion: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.musicbrainz.style/14431 http://thread.gmane.org/g

Re: [mb-style] RFV STYLE-114: Soundtrack style

2012-06-25 Thread ListMyCDs.com
On 25.6.2012 20:25, Alex Mauer wrote: > This is the RFV for the proposed Soundtrack style. > Since the most recent RFC I added a description of what releases it > applies to. +1 ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread practik
jesus2099 wrote > > Why wouldn’t we be able to type a work as SONG or as INSTRUMENTAL ? > Stephen and I gave some reasons last week: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Work-type-documentation-td4636440.html#a4636511 http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/Work-type-documentation-td463644

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread Johannes Weißl
Hello Stephen, I agree that work types don't make much sense for "popular music" (whatever this is). They are all "songs" (or "tracks" or some other term), and this has nothing to do if they have vocals/lyrics or not. Sure, there are different types of pop songs (e.g. ballads, etc.), but it is mu

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread Kuno Woudt
On 25/06/12 20:35, Johannes Weißl wrote: > So why not using "Song" for all popular works? It could be the first > item on the list or even be selected by default. +1 -- warp. ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org ht

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread SwissChris
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Kuno Woudt wrote: > On 25/06/12 20:35, Johannes Weißl wrote: > > So why not using "Song" for all popular works? It could be the first > > item on the list or even be selected by default. > > +1 > I kind of like the idea too. Adding "song" for most popular works,

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread practik
swisschris wrote > > Adding "song" for most popular works, based on > the language-/culture-based definition of every editor. And leaving the > Work type field blank for what one would consider to be a "not-song". Or > even adding a type "not-song" (or "other") for cases in popular music > where

Re: [mb-style] RFV STYLE-114: Soundtrack style

2012-06-25 Thread Aurélien Mino
Could someone explain me why we're going away from the former semi-official Soundtrack Title Style, that was normalizing titles? (semi-official because most editors were applying it) - Aurélien On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: > This is the RFV for the proposed Soundtrack sty

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread SwissChris
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:17 PM, practik wrote: > > swisschris wrote > > > > Adding "song" for most popular works, based on > > the language-/culture-based definition of every editor. And leaving the > > Work type field blank for what one would consider to be a "not-song". Or > > even adding a t

Re: [mb-style] RFV STYLE-114: Soundtrack style

2012-06-25 Thread Alex Mauer
On 06/25/2012 05:09 PM, Aurélien Mino wrote: > Could someone explain me why we're going away from the former > semi-official Soundtrack Title Style, that was normalizing titles? > > (semi-official because most editors were applying it) Because at worst, it caused editors to merge release groups t

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread Stephen
On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Johannes Weißl wrote: > But I don't like using nothing for the work type, because then there is > no difference e.g. between a classical artist with no work types set > yet, and a pop artist. In other words: Like we had the discussion for > barcodes / catalog numbers,

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Clarify that work types do not apply to works of popular music

2012-06-25 Thread David Hilton
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Stephen wrote: > > On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Johannes Weißl wrote: > > > But I don't like using nothing for the work type, because then there is > > no difference e.g. between a classical artist with no work types set > > yet, and a pop artist. In other words: L