Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread Tom Crocker
We're getting there On 17 April 2013 01:10, LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: I've slightly altered the definition of recording to what I see as a simple, straightforward sentence reflecting the comments from the past few days.

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
MusicBrainz Recordings do not indicate any particular mastering. isn't quite clear to my French ears. I feel I understand what you mean because I knew it before. Maybe adding a link to the specific Recording Style Guide section would help. Or Different remasters should not appear as different

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Also, shouldn't the definition page say how the duration is calculated. If it isn't stated here, I don't know where users would find it. 2013/4/17 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com MusicBrainz Recordings do not indicate any particular mastering. isn't quite clear to my French ears. I

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: Also, shouldn't the definition page say how the duration is calculated. If it isn't stated here, I don't know where users would find it. It probably should... once we know. At some point they'll start being

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread symphonick
2013/4/17 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com MusicBrainz Recordings do not indicate any particular mastering. isn't quite clear to my French ears. I feel I understand what you mean because I knew it before. Maybe adding a link to the specific Recording Style Guide section would help. Or

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread symphonick
2013/4/17 Tom Crocker tomcrockerm...@gmail.com 2013/4/17 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com MusicBrainz Recordings do not indicate any particular mastering. isn't quite clear to my French ears. I feel I understand what you mean because I knew it before. Maybe adding a link to the

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread Tom Crocker
Is there something you don't like about my version, perhaps the potential ambiguity of original? It tries to define when mixed / edited is necessary (when its a derivative recording). A MusicBrainz Recording is an original audio track or the product of mixing and/or editing one or more audio

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread LordSputnik
Tom Crocker wrote Actually, if you deconstruct this, since audio track is defined as recorded sound (RS), you have: mixed RS, edited RS, mixed and edited RS, unmixed and unedited RS. Which equals RS in all forms... No, that's not correct. It would be correct, if not for the words the result

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread LordSputnik
Frederic Da Vitoria wrote I feel a little strange that there is no direct link from this definition page to the definition pages of other core entities. I believe this definition page could give an indication of how Recordings are connected to other core entities. Something like A Recording

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread lixobix
Tom Crocker wrote A MusicBrainz Recording is an original audio track or the product of mixing and/or editing one or more audio tracks. My issue is that i think 'audio track' is synonymous with 'recording', e.g.: A MusicBrainz Recording is an original recording or the product of mixing and/or

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread lixobix
LordSputnik wrote In MusicBrainz, a Recording is either the result of mixing and/or editing one or more audio tracks, or unmixed and unedited recorded sound. An audio track is recorded sound, captured from a studio or live performance or from other audio sources, including existing

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread LordSputnik
lixobix wrote My issue is that i think 'audio track' is synonymous with 'recording', e.g.: A MusicBrainz Recording is an original recording or the product of mixing and/or editing one or more recordings. No, audio track is much more specific than a recording. lixobix wrote Anyway, I

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread LordSputnik
Tom Crocker wrote I see what you're saying, but I think it's fair to say the product of mixing recorded sound is mixed recorded sound. Anyway, I'm happy to leave it. Yes, the product of mixing is mixed recorded sound, but not all mixed recorded sound is the direct produce of mixing. Tom

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines - Rev. 4

2013-04-17 Thread Tom Crocker
Tom Crocker wrote Currently, audio-track includes existing recordings(which is necessary for the mixing and editing definitions), and recorded sound, so I'm not sure in which way it's more specific than a recording? I was using it as a convenient way of talking about *any* recording,

[mb-style] RFV STYLE-205: Remove indication in conductor guidelines to use chorus master for choral conductors

2013-04-17 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
Salutaurs in http://forums.musicbrainz.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21512 pointed out that the current conductor page says chorus master should be used for choral conductors: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Conductor_Relationship_Type That's just wrong I'd say - many choirs have both positions, and many