[mb-style] RFC-STYLE-234. Work lyrics option : translated→adapted

2013-08-09 Thread jesus2099
RFC http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-234 *1.* Direct translation is very rare with songs. *2.* Most seen credits are either /language-name-here *adaptations*/ or /language-name-here *lyrics*/ (new lyrics) : we have to analyse whether it is direct translation or not, which goes against

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-234. Work lyrics option : translated→adapted

2013-08-09 Thread jesus2099
is it the word that is mostly printed rather than adapt ? In french, *adaptation* (adapt) is better suited and most used than *traduction* (tranlsate). - jesus2099, Tristan, patate12, GOLD MASTER KING using a FAKE EMAIL ADDRESS -- View this message in context:

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-232: Classical works part II (Other problems)

2013-08-09 Thread symphonick
updated 2013/8/9 Tom Crocker tomcrockerm...@gmail.com As someone who knows pretty much nothing about classical, a link to Wikipedia for urtext would be handy. Or a brief definition in brackets. The same probably goes for quite a few of these terms. Obviously I'm unlikely to be doing heavy

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-234. Work lyrics option : translated→adapted

2013-08-09 Thread jesus2099
I’ve been using translated optuion as just a keyword saying this work is in other language but have been criticised it was not real translations. Ultiumately, we don’t even need such an option if it doesn’t just mean other language as we already have the work lanuages that are different. I’m

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-232: Classical works part II (Other problems)

2013-08-09 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/09/2013 10:46 AM, symphonick wrote: updated Much better! General comments: I think “secondary alias” is confusing (there is no mention of “secondary” in the interface. I would use “non-primary alias” instead, or “search hint alias” if applicable.) There are a few places where you say

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-234. Work lyrics option : translated→adapted

2013-08-09 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/09/2013 11:14 AM, jesus2099 wrote: I’ve been using translated optuion as just a keyword saying this work is in other language but have been criticised it was not real translations. Ultiumately, we don’t even need such an option if it doesn’t just mean other language as we already have

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-234. Work lyrics option : translated→adapted

2013-08-09 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/8/9 jesus2099 hta3s836gzac...@jetable.org I’ve been using translated optuion as just a keyword saying this work is in other language but have been criticised it was not real translations. Ultiumately, we don’t even need such an option if it doesn’t just mean other language as we already

[mb-style] RFC-STYLE-236. +maxi+ single

2013-08-09 Thread jesus2099
RFC http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-236 Add *maxi* secondary RG type on *single* primary type. When those so called *maxi singles* are not called EP nor just singles by the issuers. RFC end date : *16 august 2013* - jesus2099, Tristan, patate12, GOLD MASTER KING using a FAKE

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-235. +mini+ album

2013-08-09 Thread Calvin Walton
On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 09:39 -0700, jesus2099 wrote: Add *mini* secondary RG type on *album* primary type. When those so called *mini albums* are not called EP by the issuers. RFC end date : *16 august 2013* This is actually an issue with both your mini and maxi proposals: At present,

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-236. +maxi+ single

2013-08-09 Thread Calvin Walton
On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 09:41 -0700, jesus2099 wrote: RFC http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-236 Add *maxi* secondary RG type on *single* primary type. When those so called *maxi singles* are not called EP nor just singles by the issuers. RFC end date : *16 august 2013* My

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-236. +maxi+ single

2013-08-09 Thread Lemire, Sebastien
According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxi_single It doesn't seem to be that simple... especially today where 8cm cds are practically non-existent. I wouldn't mind have Maxi being a sub-type of Single. What would be the advantage of an Attribute vs a secondrary type? On Fri, Aug 9,

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-232: Classical works part II (Other problems)

2013-08-09 Thread symphonick
2013/8/9 Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net On 08/09/2013 10:46 AM, symphonick wrote: updated Much better! General comments: I think “secondary alias” is confusing (there is no mention of “secondary” in the interface. I would use “non-primary alias” instead, or “search hint alias” if

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-235. +mini+ album

2013-08-09 Thread refresh_daemon
Calvin Walton-2 wrote My opinion is that Mini-Album is sufficiently distinct from Album such that it probably does deserve to be its own primary type; although it might make sense to merge it with EP instead (discuss!) -- Calvin Walton lt; calvin.walton@ gt; Personally, because I

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-236. +maxi+ single

2013-08-09 Thread Calvin Walton
On Fri, 2013-08-09 at 13:18 -0400, Lemire, Sebastien wrote: According to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxi_single It doesn't seem to be that simple... especially today where 8cm cds are practically non-existent. I wouldn't mind have Maxi being a sub-type of Single. What would be the

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-235. +mini+ album

2013-08-09 Thread lixobix
refresh_daemon wrote Calvin Walton-2 wrote My opinion is that Mini-Album is sufficiently distinct from Album such that it probably does deserve to be its own primary type; although it might make sense to merge it with EP instead (discuss!) -- Calvin Walton lt; calvin.walton@ gt;

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-232: Classical works part II (Other problems)

2013-08-09 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/09/2013 02:12 PM, symphonick wrote: Now that you mention artist intent, my advice about original titles looks problematic too. If artist intent overrides, we can't change the title given by the composer? Good question. We do need the title to be recognizable in the search results. This

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-232: Classical works part II (Other problems)

2013-08-09 Thread symphonick
2013/8/9 Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net On 08/09/2013 02:12 PM, symphonick wrote: Now that you mention artist intent, my advice about original titles looks problematic too. If artist intent overrides, we can't change the title given by the composer? Good question. We do need the title

Re: [mb-style] RFC-STYLE-235. +mini+ album

2013-08-09 Thread refresh_daemon
lixobix wrote refresh_daemon wrote Calvin Walton-2 wrote My opinion is that Mini-Album is sufficiently distinct from Album such that it probably does deserve to be its own primary type; although it might make sense to merge it with EP instead (discuss!) -- Calvin Walton lt;