2013/8/9 symphonick <symphon...@gmail.com> > > > > 2013/8/9 Alex Mauer <ha...@hawkesnest.net> > >> On 08/09/2013 02:12 PM, symphonick wrote: >> >> > Now that you mention artist intent, my advice about original titles >> > looks problematic too. If artist intent overrides, we can't change the >> > title given by the composer? >> >> Good question. We do need the title to be recognizable in the search >> results. >> >> This also affects “nicknames”: Why are “modern titles” OK for the title, >> but “nicknames” not, given that both are unofficial names? >> >> That line seems rather fuzzy to me. >> > > It only works if you upgrade the modern title to a "real" title first... > Logically, unofficial names shouldn't go into titles. > Nicknames are local (except maybe "moonlight sonata"); that is, it's > possible that a nickname exists in only one specific country. > > I have a better explanation today :-) I've (once again) mistaken the development terminology page http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Works for a guideline :-( That's where the "canonical title" comes from. I'd like the classical works guideline to follow a standard mb works title guideline, so sometimes I dream that we have one...
Unless we can make a guideline that overruns artist intent, we'll have to stick with the composer's title. > Maybe we could have a list with exceptions (like St. Matthew Passion), but > we could also see it as a search results UI issue; if one primary alias was > shown in the search results, it wouldn't matter if the original title is > archaic. > > > At the very least, all of “artist-given names”, “modern titles”, and >> “nicknames” should all go into the aliases in some form, for findability >> if nothing else. >> >> Maybe have “modern name” as the main work title, “artist-given name” as >> the primary alias, and “nicknames” as search hint? It feels weird to >> recommend that the main title not be a primary alias, but I think it >> might go with what we want/need. >> > > /symphonick > /symphonick
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