Hi all
I am actively implementing our last
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/Recording/Artist recording artist
guideline . I have two proposal to submit, regarding conductors:
1. insist, within the guide line, on the order of artist credit for
concertos
The guide line example is "/Conc
Here is an experience, submitted to vote:
http://musicbrainz.org/edit/18897858 edit artist credit .
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On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Dibou wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I am actively implementing our last
> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/Recording/Artist recording
> artist
> guideline . I have two proposal to submit, regarding conductors:
>
> 1. insist, within the guide line, on the order of a
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Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
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Subject: Re: [mb-style] [CSG] conductor credit
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7
2012/9/2 Dibou
> Hi all
>
> I am actively implementing our last
> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/Recording/Artist recording
> artist
> guideline . I have two proposal to submit, regarding conductors:
>
> 1. insist, within the guide line, on the order of artist credit for
> concertos
>
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> Tamargo de Eguren
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> *Subject:* Re: [mb-style] [CSG] conductor credit
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Dibou wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am actively implementing our la
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Frederic Da Vitoria
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Subject: Re: [mb-style] [CSG] conductor credit
2012/9/2 Dibou
Hi all
I am actively imple
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 5:22 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren <
reosare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Dibou wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am actively implementing our last
>> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Classical/Recording/Artist recording
>> artist
>> guideline . I hav
"Brant Gibbard"
writes:
> I'm really not sure that is possible, as the number of possible forms is so
> large. I listen to a lot of medieval and renaissance music, and hardly any
> of it falls into the categories you mention.
Well, yes, but I would guess that most recordings fit into one of the
f
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> Da Vitoria
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> 2012/9/2 Dibou
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am actively implementing our last
>> http://musicbrainz.o
>> Brant Gibbard
>> Toronto, ON
>> http://bgibbard.ca
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>> musicbrainz-style-boun...@lists.musicbrainz.org] *On Behalf Of *Frederic
>> Da Vitoria
>> *Se
Brant Gibbard wrote
>
> Since these are credits rather than roles, I order by prominence of the
> credit on the cover, first by type size, and then by the order in which
> they
> are listed on the cover, if the size of the type is the same.
>
That's what I said to myself... before!
But actually
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote
>
>> The guide line example is "/Concierto de Aranjuez: I. Allegro con spirito
>> Julian Bream, Melos Chamber Orchestra, Colin Davis/". It sounds good to
>> me,
>> I like the order soloist(s), orchestra, conductor... [1]
>
> Heh. I admit I prefer Ensembles, Conduc
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote
>
> This I don't like too much. I mean, I'm just treating the list as a comma
> separated performer list with further details in the relationships and I
> like it like that - adding more details there makes it more cumbersome
> IMO.
>
So you would probably accept
On 9/2/2012 8:48 AM, Dibou wrote:
> Who is the most important performer for a concerto: the soloist(s) or the
> orchestra ?
I would really rather not have special rules depending on the work
type... concerto vs. symphony vs. etc.
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Subject: Re: [mb-style] [CSG] conductor credit
Nicolás
"Brant Gibbard"
writes:
> I would have thought the orchestra would be the least important. They follow
> the directions of the conductor. The people making the artistic decisions
> are the conductor and the soloist, and with multiple soloists pushing the
> balance more to the conductor.
... exce
concering sortorder i like
soloist, orchestra, conductor
that's also the most common order on my releases (mainly DG).
and i'm against reintroducing "cond.", we have ARs to attribute roles.
best, lorenz.
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I started looking at how recorded music is cited in academia. The
sources I found seem to lean toward:
[soloist(s)], [ensemble], [conductor]
(Chicago/Turabian style[1] does not follow that pattern)
Example from the MHRA Style Guide[2]:
Ludwig van Beethoven, /Piano Concerto no. 5, Mi
On 09/06/2012 04:18 PM, caller#6 wrote:
> I started looking at how recorded music is cited in academia. The
> sources I found seem to lean toward:
> [soloist(s)], [ensemble], [conductor]
>
> Example (adapted) from the MLA Style Guide[3]:
> Joplin, Scott. /Treemonisha/. Dir. Frank Corsa
You don't miss anything :
One is a concerto, firstly performed by the soloist (1.) and accompanied by
the orchestra (2.) conducted by its conductor (3.).
The other is a an opera performed by a large group of artists directed by a
director (1.) directing actors (2.) and musicians grouped as an orc
On 02/09/2012 14:53, Dibou wrote:
>
> Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote
>>
>> This I don't like too much. I mean, I'm just treating the list as a comma
>> separated performer list with further details in the relationships and I
>> like it like that - adding more details there makes it more cumbersome
On 09/07/2012 12:24 AM, Dibou wrote:
> You don't miss anything :
>
> One is a concerto, firstly performed by the soloist (1.) and accompanied by
> the orchestra (2.) conducted by its conductor (3.).
>
> The other is a an opera performed by a large group of artists directed by a
> director (1.) di
I said there was a /trend/ toward that order in the examples I was
finding. I didn't find any explicit rules for ordering, but had to
extrapolate from examples.
The MLA is pretty flexible, depending on what/whom you're emphasizing,
but the examples still tend toward [soloists][ensemble][conduc
Once more, this seems to confirm that there is maybe no need for
normalization of the artist order.
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