[mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-02-03 Thread Brian Schweitzer
Please ignore the long email - I sent that 8 1/2 days ago, but it seems the list-management software sat on it until only just this morning. :( Brian ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.or

[mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-02-03 Thread Brian Schweitzer
I appreciate the response - quite obviously thought went into it. However, I admit, I find it rather confusing, and somewhat contradictory, and I really just have to disagree here. >> In my opinion, any concept of a release language, for classical, is >> rather bogus. > >The MBReleaseLanguage can

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-02-01 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Lauri Watts wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2008 11:05 PM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... >> >> Jim DeLaHunt wrote: >> >>> My big obstacle in discussing ReleaseLanguage is that I don't have a >> clue >> >>> why we're recording that data, what problem it's trying to solve. >> >> I guess you

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language (OT: Dupes)

2008-01-29 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: A private email I received spurred me to take a look and see just in an effort to show exactly how we're making our work redundantly more difficult by not standardizing classical listing language, Yes there are a lot of dupes, no surprises there, and I believe you are r

[mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-28 Thread Brian Schweitzer
A private email I received spurred me to take a look and see just in an effort to show exactly how we're making our work redundantly more difficult by not standardizing classical listing language, I took a break from list-making, and gave myself a hard limit of 30 minutes, and went to see how many

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-27 Thread Lauri Watts
On Jan 27, 2008 11:05 PM, Leiv Hellebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > > > > Leiv Hellebo-2 wrote: > > (Huh? If I am LH-2, then who is LH-1?) > > >> Jim DeLaHunt wrote: > >>> My big obstacle in discussing ReleaseLanguage is that I don't have a clue > >>> why we're recording that

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-27 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Jim DeLaHunt wrote: Leiv Hellebo-2 wrote: (Huh? If I am LH-2, then who is LH-1?) Jim DeLaHunt wrote: My big obstacle in discussing ReleaseLanguage is that I don't have a clue why we're recording that data, what problem it's trying to solve. I guess you would have problems with distinguishi

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-27 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Leiv Hellebo-2 wrote: > > Jim DeLaHunt wrote: >> My big obstacle in discussing ReleaseLanguage is that I don't have a clue >> why we're recording that data, what problem it's trying to solve. > > I guess you would have problems with distinguishing between Danish and > Norwegian, or between vari

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-27 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Jim DeLaHunt wrote: My big obstacle in discussing ReleaseLanguage is that I don't have a clue why we're recording that data, what problem it's trying to solve. I guess you would have problems with distinguishing between Danish and Norwegian, or between various Slavic languages... But with the

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-27 Thread Brian Schweitzer
Jim, Well put - that's essentially the core of what I'm suggesting. The track/work title on classical releases is essentially a generic title; hence why we do get so many lazy releases with just tempos - "here's a basic work ID, here's just barely enough to ID what's on each track"; or the conver

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-27 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Brian Schweitzer wrote: > > In my opinion, any concept of a release language, for classical [and > opera], is rather bogus.Any decent non-budget release (Naxos, Philips, > etc) tends to list either multiple languages or single listings in a mix > of languages. We've typically selected one,

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-26 Thread Leiv Hellebo
Brian Schweitzer wrote: This began as a private message to leivhe, but it got long enough, and detailed enough, I figured it'd be better to just send to to the style list... Note - "CSG" here I also mean to encompass Opera Style. In my opinion, any concep

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
On Jan 25, 2008 9:49 AM, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, I suggest, rather than "choose one out of the four languages on your > CD as the one to use", or the debates (like one recently) over what language > to use when essentially there is no release language for a classical CD,

Re: [mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-25 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
That would be a very good application of the "alternate titles" feature I proposed a while back :) On Jan 25, 2008 9:49 AM, Brian Schweitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This began as a private message to leivhe, but it got long enough, and > detailed enough, I figured it'd be better to just send

[mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Classical and Release Language

2008-01-25 Thread Brian Schweitzer
This began as a private message to leivhe, but it got long enough, and detailed enough, I figured it'd be better to just send to to the style list... Note - "CSG" here I also mean to encompass Opera Style. In my opinion, any concept of a release language, for