Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-25 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/11/25 Alex Mauer > On 11/25/2011 03:22 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: > > So, you seem to be saying don't store a time for the vinyl because if > > you have a time for a cd release that is going to be better, that just > > isn't true. Somebody may have put in an accurate Vinyl time, and someone > >

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-25 Thread Paul Taylor
On 25/11/2011 19:12, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 11/25/2011 03:22 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: >> So, you seem to be saying don't store a time for the vinyl because if >> you have a time for a cd release that is going to be better, that just >> isn't true. Somebody may have put in an accurate Vinyl time, and

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-25 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/25/2011 03:22 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: > So, you seem to be saying don't store a time for the vinyl because if > you have a time for a cd release that is going to be better, that just > isn't true. Somebody may have put in an accurate Vinyl time, and someone > else an incorrect CD time. Basica

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-25 Thread Paul Taylor
On 24/11/2011 17:55, Alex Mauer wrote: On 11/24/2011 4:29 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: We don't actually add release times, just track times so I don't see that this is that relevant, It's relevant to the last track of each side, no? Surely the point at which it reaches the last groove is the end T

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-24 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/11/24 Alex Mauer > On 11/24/2011 4:29 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: > > Treating analog different to digital is a bad idea. But it might be > > worth revisiting why we need track times AND recording times for CD's, > > when do they actually differ ? > > They differ from one release to another, simp

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-24 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/24/2011 4:29 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: >>> We don't actually add release times, just track times so I don't see >>> that this is that relevant, >> It’s relevant to the last track of each side, no? > Surely the point at which it reaches the last groove is the end The point it which it reaches th

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-24 Thread Paul Taylor
On 23/11/2011 18:01, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 11/23/2011 05:11 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: >>> The situation is: >>> * phonograph records (in particular) have no clearly-defined duration >>> (especially since the last groove locks and loops forever >> We don't actually add release times, just track times

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-23 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/23/2011 05:11 AM, Paul Taylor wrote: >> The situation is: >> * phonograph records (in particular) have no clearly-defined duration >> (especially since the last groove locks and loops forever > We don't actually add release times, just track times so I don't see > that this is that relevant,

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-23 Thread Paul Taylor
On 18/11/2011 17:54, Alex Mauer wrote: Discussion on IRC[1] brought up the idea that perhaps it would be useful to remove the possibility of setting track durations from releases which don’t have clearly-defined track boundaries or durations (I believe this is mostly analog releases, but there ma

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-21 Thread Johannes Weißl
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 02:48:59PM -0600, Alex Mauer wrote: > > But if someone really went through the effort as to identify vinyl track > > durations, I think they should be allowed to enter this information. > > I like the thought, but I’m not sure how you could say that the track > durations w

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/21/2011 12:30 PM, Johannes Weißl wrote: > I really like this idea, I think through the NGS update almost all track > durations for vinyl albums are worthless (because they shared one > tracklist with a CD release). > > But if someone really went through the effort as to identify vinyl track >

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-21 Thread Johannes Weißl
Hello Alex, +1 I really like this idea, I think through the NGS update almost all track durations for vinyl albums are worthless (because they shared one tracklist with a CD release). But if someone really went through the effort as to identify vinyl track durations, I think they should be allow

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-19 Thread Per Øyvind Øygard
On 18 November 2011 22:00, Alex Mauer wrote: > On 11/18/2011 02:31 PM, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote: >> My immediate feeling is that this would cause more problems than it >> would solve. The primary advantage of having analog recording track >> times is for recording merging purposes. Without track ti

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-18 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/18/2011 02:31 PM, Per Øyvind Øygard wrote: > My immediate feeling is that this would cause more problems than it > would solve. The primary advantage of having analog recording track > times is for recording merging purposes. Without track times you risk > accidentally merging recordings whic

Re: [mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-18 Thread Per Øyvind Øygard
On 18 November 2011 18:54, Alex Mauer wrote: > Discussion on IRC[1] brought up the idea that perhaps it would be useful > to remove the possibility of setting track durations from releases which > don’t have clearly-defined track boundaries or durations (I believe this > is mostly analog releases,

[mb-style] Idea: remove track durations from analog releases

2011-11-18 Thread Alex Mauer
Discussion on IRC[1] brought up the idea that perhaps it would be useful to remove the possibility of setting track durations from releases which don’t have clearly-defined track boundaries or durations (I believe this is mostly analog releases, but there may be some exceptions in either direct