Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2014-01-21 Thread ListMyCDs
On 20.1.2014 13:09, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: I'll be sending a new RFC thread for this in a few days, but feel free to discuss it a bit here first (let's treat it as a pre-RFC :) ) I would be happy to see dedication. It is common for classical composers to dedicate their works. Have

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2014-01-20 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:17 PM, monxton musicbra...@jordan-maynard.orgwrote: On 09/04/2013 13:37, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:34 PM, monxton wrote: We do already have the tribute to relationship for release groups. So I think this should use the

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2014-01-20 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
Also, I'd pick dedication as the name, but of course, I'm coming at this from a classical POV - dunno how well that fits for non-classical uses of this. ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2014-01-20 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
I'll be sending a new RFC thread for this in a few days, but feel free to discuss it a bit here first (let's treat it as a pre-RFC :) ) ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread monxton
On 04/04/2013 02:06, Sheamus Patt wrote: Seems I was wrong though - Diana - Princess of Wales is already an MB artist http://musicbrainz.org/artist/5c216e1a-cfda-445a-b6cd-c30b90b12bb8 . Yes, but those credits are just wrong:

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread monxton
On 01/04/2013 19:48, Deanna Earley wrote: Songs are sometimes written with a dedication to another artist, but MB doesn't seem to have any way to mark this yet. Can a in homage to relationship be added to works? We do already have the tribute to relationship for release groups. So I think

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:34 PM, monxton musicbra...@jordan-maynard.orgwrote: On 01/04/2013 19:48, Deanna Earley wrote: Songs are sometimes written with a dedication to another artist, but MB doesn't seem to have any way to mark this yet. Can a in homage to relationship be added to works?

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread Rachel Dwight
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:37 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:34 PM, monxton musicbra...@jordan-maynard.org wrote: On 01/04/2013 19:48, Deanna Earley wrote: Songs are sometimes written with a dedication to another

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread Tom Crocker
homage, dedication, tribute, celebration, recognition, praise. They are all forms of honour and it would be nice if we could group them together. Maybe you could have an honour relationship and choose the type of honour. But I presume we want to steer clear of 'thanks' lists. On 9 April 2013

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works - dyanamic attribute?

2013-04-09 Thread caller#6
On 04/03/2013 05:16 PM, LordSputnik wrote: Well, an artist that's already in MB for some other reason, or if not, one that could conceivably be included in MB for some other reason. What I'm saying is, I don't think dedicatees should be added as artists just because they're written down as

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread monxton
On 09/04/2013 13:37, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:34 PM, monxton wrote: We do already have the tribute to relationship for release groups. So I think this should use the same form of words. That'd restrict it quite a lot, though. Britten's Cello Symphony

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-09 Thread Tom Crocker
On Apr 9, 2013 9:18 PM, monxton musicbra...@jordan-maynard.org wrote: On 09/04/2013 13:37, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:34 PM, monxton wrote: We do already have the tribute to relationship for release groups. So I think this should use the same form

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-04 Thread symphonick
2013/4/4 Sheamus Patt musicbrainz.r...@ncf.ca On 04/03/2013 08:22 PM, Rachel Dwight wrote: That shouldn't be a problem, since most artists dedicate their creations to someone they know. We can use existing ARs for most of those relationships (with a few exceptions, mostly for familial

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-04 Thread symphonick
2013/4/4 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com 2013/4/4 Sheamus Patt musicbrainz.r...@ncf.ca On 04/03/2013 08:22 PM, Rachel Dwight wrote: That shouldn't be a problem, since most artists dedicate their creations to someone they know. We can use existing ARs for most of those relationships (with

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-03 Thread Rachel Dwight
I just remembered something: could this AR be extended to releases as well? I know of releases who were dedicated to people or groups, and even in some cases paying homage to entire releases (e.g. Ween's 12 Golden Country Greats pays homage to Throbbing Gristle's 20 Jazz Funk Greats). On Apr 2,

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-03 Thread LordSputnik
Yes, I'd support it for releases too, but this relationship should still only be used where the dedication is to someone within the music industry (except of course the release-release version of the relationship). -- View this message in context:

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-03 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:40 AM, LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I'd support it for releases too, but this relationship should still only be used where the dedication is to someone within the music industry (except of course the release-release version of the relationship). Heh.

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-03 Thread LordSputnik
Well, an artist that's already in MB for some other reason, or if not, one that could conceivably be included in MB for some other reason. What I'm saying is, I don't think dedicatees should be added as artists just because they're written down as dedicatees. -- View this message in context:

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-03 Thread Rachel Dwight
On Apr 3, 2013, at 7:16 PM, LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: Well, an artist that's already in MB for some other reason, or if not, one that could conceivably be included in MB for some other reason. What I'm saying is, I don't think dedicatees should be added as artists just because

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-03 Thread Sheamus Patt
On 04/03/2013 08:22 PM, Rachel Dwight wrote: That shouldn't be a problem, since most artists dedicate their creations to someone they know. We can use existing ARs for most of those relationships (with a few exceptions, mostly for familial relations for which we have yet to devise a plan).

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-02 Thread Dainis Jonitis
+1 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Deanna Earley d...@earlsoft.co.uk wrote: Songs are sometimes written with a dedication to another artist, but MB doesn't seem to have any way to mark this yet. Can a in homage to relationship be added to works? Other examples are: • In memory of ... • A

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-02 Thread jesus2099
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Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-02 Thread LordSputnik
Dedicated to my awesome brother Ricky Dedicated to my girlfriend Dedicated to my Mum and Dad Are some examples of dedications where we probably wouldn't want to store the second artist. I see no way of handling these cases in the current relationships system apart from using annotations to store

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-02 Thread symphonick
2013/4/2 LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com Dedicated to my awesome brother Ricky Dedicated to my girlfriend Dedicated to my Mum and Dad Are some examples of dedications where we probably wouldn't want to store the second artist. I see no way of handling these cases in the current

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-02 Thread Rachel Dwight
Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2013, at 8:22 AM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/4/2 LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com Dedicated to my awesome brother Ricky Dedicated to my girlfriend Dedicated to my Mum and Dad Are some examples of dedications where we probably wouldn't want to

[mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-01 Thread Deanna Earley
Songs are sometimes written with a dedication to another artist, but MB doesn't seem to have any way to mark this yet. Can a in homage to relationship be added to works? Other examples are: • In memory of ... • A tribute to ... • In homage to ... • Dedicated to ...

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
The tricky part here is that the person the work is dedicated to could be another artist recorded in MB, as well as someone who should never be in MB. In the first case, it would be nice to be able to link to the MB Artist (which would mean creating a new AR for dedications), but in the second

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-01 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.comwrote: The tricky part here is that the person the work is dedicated to could be another artist recorded in MB, as well as someone who should never be in MB. Who's someone who should never be in MB? Dedicatees sound at

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
You are right, we could decide that if someone has a work dedicated to her/him,then he meets the condition for being stored in MB. This would allow us to create the AR. 2013/4/1 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Add a In homage to relationship to works

2013-04-01 Thread Rachel Dwight
On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com wrote: You are right, we could decide that if someone has a work dedicated to her/him,then he meets the condition for being stored in MB. This would allow us to create the AR. +1 on these grounds. 2013/4/1 Nicolás