[mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Crocker
Same as before. Tell us what you think! 1st RFV: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/RFV-STYLE-335-Add-Box-set-as-a-primary-type-of-Release-Group-tp4667826.html On 24 August 2014 22:15, Tom Crocker wrote: > I thought it was worth giving this a go. > Preliminary date for RFC to end: 2014-09-

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-05 Thread Tom Crocker
Oh, and a datetime - let's provisionally say Monday week 2014-09-15 17:00 I'll try to respond to the points raised in Freso's message when I'm not at work :) On 5 September 2014 09:23, Tom Crocker wrote: > Same as before. Tell us what you think! > 1st RFV: > http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabbl

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-05 Thread caller#6
On 09/05/2014 01:23 AM, Tom Crocker wrote: Same as before. Tell us what you think! 1st RFV: http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/RFV-STYLE-335-Add-Box-set-as-a-primary-type-of-Release-Group-tp4667826.html On 24 August 2014 22:15, Tom Crocker > wrote:

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-05 Thread Ross Tyler
> I'm pretty sure there are examples of box sets that aren't > compilations. Sometimes a series might be released as a box and as > individual discs at more or less the same time. Looking for a concrete > example of this. > Here is one (3 volumes of Magnetic Fields' "69 Love Songs" released in

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-05 Thread lixobix
caller#6-2 wrote > On 09/05/2014 01:23 AM, Tom Crocker wrote: >> Same as before. Tell us what you think! >> 1st RFV: >> http://musicbrainz.1054305.n4.nabble.com/RFV-STYLE-335-Add-Box-set-as-a-primary-type-of-Release-Group-tp4667826.html >> >> On 24 August 2014 22:15, Tom Crocker < > tomcrockermai

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread Per Starbäck
2014-09-05 18:46 GMT+02:00 Ross Tyler : > I think discriminating on the packaging aspect of this ("box set") adds > little value. We already have a way of expressing packaging. What I > would like is a way to discriminate releases that repackage multiple > previous releases. Compared to getting th

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread Tom Crocker
On 6 Sep 2014 19:00, "Per Starbäck" wrote: > (snip) > When you use the database it's a feature that if you look at for > instance a release like > http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/65d214dc-0225-4f52-bb91-520e89a15e5b > (a vinyl release from 1973) there would be a link there to > http://musicbr

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread rossetyler
tommycrock wrote > On 6 Sep 2014 19:00, "Per Starbäck" < > per.starback@ > > wrote: >> (snip) >> When you use the database it's a feature that if you look at for >> instance a release like >> http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/65d214dc-0225-4f52-bb91-520e89a15e5b >> (a vinyl release from 1973)

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread Tom Crocker
On 6 September 2014 19:28, rossetyler wrote: > tommycrock wrote > > On 6 Sep 2014 19:00, "Per Starbäck" < > > > per.starback@ > > > > wrote: > >> (snip) > >> When you use the database it's a feature that if you look at for > >> instance a release like > >> > http://musicbrainz.org/release-group/6

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread caller#6
On 09/06/2014 11:36 AM, Tom Crocker wrote: On 6 September 2014 19:28, rossetyler > wrote: tommycrock wrote Rather than elevating Box-Set RGs to their own section on the artists page (this RFC), I would rather elevate these RG types that repac

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread KRSCuan
On 06.09.2014 20:28, rossetyler wrote: > The way STYLE-331 is addressing this is to add a RG-RG relationship. Rather > than elevating Box-Set RGs to their own section on the artists page (this > RFC), I would rather elevate these RG types that repackage others - in > addition to having the RG-RG re

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread Ross Tyler
On 9/6/2014 11:36 AM, Tom Crocker wrote: Rather than elevating Box-Set RGs to their own section on the artists page (this RFC), I would rather elevate these RG types that repackage others - in addition to having the RG-RG relationships. But I think what you're suggesting w

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-06 Thread Per Starbäck
> I do see the utility in supporting a repacking concept as a secondary type > because that is often economical/best/only way to obtain an artists catalog. > This is where I would find 2in1s, complete singles collections, complete > album box sets, etc. > Personally, I put these kinds of releases i

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-07 Thread bflaminio
Just as an extra reference, eBay includes the following categories for releases. Some correspond to MB; some are different/extra: Album Mini-album Box Set EP Single Maxi-single This just shows that there is precedent for having "Box Set" as a primary type of release group. This would be my prefer

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-08 Thread KRSCuan
Am 07.09.2014 21:44, schrieb bflaminio: > Just as an extra reference, eBay includes the following categories for > releases. Some correspond to MB; some are different/extra: > > Album > Mini-album > Box Set > EP > Single > Maxi-single > > This just shows that there is precedent for having "Box Set"

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-09 Thread Tom Crocker
On 9 Sep 2014 01:30, "KRSCuan" wrote: > > Am 07.09.2014 21:44, schrieb bflaminio: > > Just as an extra reference, eBay includes the following categories for > > releases. Some correspond to MB; some are different/extra: > > > > Album > > Mini-album > > Box Set > > EP > > Single > > Maxi-single > >

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-10 Thread caller#6
On 09/05/2014 10:54 AM, lixobix wrote: > I think we're overcomplicating this. Perhaps something simple would > work: "A Box Set in a release containing multiple mediums, typically > more than the other primary release types, and typically of longer > duration. Whilst the difference between a Box

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-10 Thread Tom Crocker
On 10 September 2014 22:17, caller#6 wrote: > On 09/05/2014 10:54 AM, lixobix wrote: > > I think we're overcomplicating this. Perhaps something simple would > > work: "A Box Set in a release containing multiple mediums, typically > > more than the other primary release types, and typically of lon

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-10 Thread caller#6
On 09/10/2014 02:46 PM, Tom Crocker wrote: On 10 September 2014 22:17, caller#6 > wrote: On 09/05/2014 10:54 AM, lixobix wrote: > I think we're overcomplicating this. Perhaps something simple would > work: "A Box Set in a release containing multiple medium

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-11 Thread lixobix
caller#6-2 wrote > On 09/10/2014 02:46 PM, Tom Crocker wrote: >> On 10 September 2014 22:17, caller#6 < > callerno6@ > > > callerno6@ > >> wrote: >> >> On 09/05/2014 10:54 AM, lixobix wrote: >> > I think we're overcomplicating this. Perhaps something simple would >> > w

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-11 Thread Tom Crocker
Re: compilations. I can now get that a series of albums simultaneously released separately and as a set would be an original box set (see 1; lixobix I guess you might say this was contentious). I was keen to avoid splitting the studio album discography. I'll try adapting what lixobix wrote and mayb

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-13 Thread lixobix
tommycrock wrote > Re: compilations. I can now get that a series of albums simultaneously > released separately and as a set would be an original box set (see 1; > lixobix I guess you might say this was contentious). I was keen to avoid > splitting the studio album discography. I'll try adapting wh

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group

2014-09-13 Thread Tom Crocker
I think we agree ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] RFC-2: STYLE-335: Add "Box set" as a primary type of Release Group -- compilation sub-types?

2014-09-06 Thread caller#6
On 09/06/2014 03:13 PM, Ross Tyler wrote: I just don't see the utility in a secondary or primary type for a kind of packaging ("box set"). I don't think this is about the packaging, any more than "album" is. I mean, orginally an album was literally an album (i.e. a big book-thingy), but it came