Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-02-02 Thread symphonick
2012/2/1 Frederic Da Vitoria > 2012/1/31, symphonick : > > 2012/1/31 Frederic Da Vitoria > > > >> 2012/1/31 David Gasaway > >> > >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:42, Frederic Da Vitoria < > davito...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > For example displaying all the recordings of a work. In tha

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-02-01 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/31, symphonick : > 2012/1/31 Frederic Da Vitoria > >> 2012/1/31 David Gasaway >> >>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:42, Frederic Da Vitoria >>> wrote: >>> >>> > For example displaying all the recordings of a work. In that case, >>> since you >>> > started from a work, you know the composer, o

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread symphonick
2012/1/31 Frederic Da Vitoria > 2012/1/31 David Gasaway > >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:42, Frederic Da Vitoria >> wrote: >> >> > For example displaying all the recordings of a work. In that case, >> since you >> > started from a work, you know the composer, of course. >> >> And on other pages

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/31 David Gasaway > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:42, Frederic Da Vitoria > wrote: > > > For example displaying all the recordings of a work. In that case, since > you > > started from a work, you know the composer, of course. > > And on other pages you have the reverse problem, thus "compose

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread David Gasaway
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:42, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote: > For example displaying all the recordings of a work. In that case, since you > started from a work, you know the composer, of course. And on other pages you have the reverse problem, thus "composer disambiguation"? For me, it all comes

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/31 David Gasaway > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 08:45, Frederic Da Vitoria > > > Wouldn't it put repetitive information in pages where we could wish a > > more focused display? > > Which pages are those? From what I've gathered from earlier > discussion, the information is not repetitive, sin

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread David Gasaway
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 08:45, Frederic Da Vitoria > Wouldn't it put repetitive information in pages where we could wish a > more focused display? Which pages are those? From what I've gathered from earlier discussion, the information is not repetitive, since people are proposing "composer disa

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/31, David Gasaway : > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 01:09, symphonick wrote: > >> That's it; the recording represents audio & the composer was not involved >> in >> creating it. Having performers in the recording ACs will make sense for >> lists of performances of a work; instead of a long list o

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread David Gasaway
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 01:09, symphonick wrote: > That's it; the recording represents audio & the composer was not involved in > creating it. Having performers in the recording ACs will make sense for > lists of performances of a work; instead of a long list of allegros by > Mozart the list will

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-31 Thread symphonick
2012/1/31 David Gasaway > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 08:55, symphonick wrote: > > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > > > > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear > > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists >

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread David Gasaway
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 08:55, symphonick wrote: > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists will > be in another RFC later). I gu

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread symphonick
2012/1/30 David Hilton > I'm having some trouble seeing a good use case for the composer > disambiguation; in most cases, I add all relevant relationships to a > recording shortly after creating the recording - and if ARs are added > from the recording page itself (which is not difficult when add

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread David Hilton
I'm having some trouble seeing a good use case for the composer disambiguation; in most cases, I add all relevant relationships to a recording shortly after creating the recording - and if ARs are added from the recording page itself (which is not difficult when adding a new recording), there is no

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread lorenz pressler
Am 30.01.2012, 19:52 Uhr, schrieb Alex Mauer : > On 01/30/2012 12:37 PM, symphonick wrote: >> So "match script" more than match language? > > Yes, I guess that describes it pretty well. Though I wouldn’t object to > “no change at all” (i.e. Пётр Ильич Чайковский instead of any Latin > variant of T

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 01/30/2012 12:37 PM, symphonick wrote: > So "match script" more than match language? Yes, I guess that describes it pretty well. Though I wouldn’t object to “no change at all” (i.e. Пётр Ильич Чайковский instead of any Latin variant of Tchaikovsky). Though that does make it hard to read for

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread symphonick
sorry, it's CSG2012: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Artist 2012/1/30 Alex Mauer > On 01/30/2012 12:27 PM, symphonick wrote: > > They seem identical... I think has something to do with this... > > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist > http://wiki

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread symphonick
2012/1/30 Alex Mauer > On 01/30/2012 11:45 AM, symphonick wrote: > > 1. IMO it makes sense to follow the language of the relase - so maybe > > "as printed"? (which means I'll change to Zukerman). > > +1, but I know some people object to “as printed” for whatever reason. > > > 2 issues: > > Can/sh

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 01/30/2012 12:27 PM, symphonick wrote: > They seem identical... I think has something to do with this... http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Artist They are completely different text and completely different URLS…th

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread symphonick
They seem identical... I think has something to do with this... /symphonick 2012/1/30 Alex Mauer > On 01/29/2012 01:48 PM, symphonick wrote: > > I have updated > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist > > > > (the examples exist in MB, but I'm not adding URLs as long as rec

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 01/30/2012 11:45 AM, symphonick wrote: > 1. IMO it makes sense to follow the language of the relase - so maybe > "as printed"? (which means I'll change to Zukerman). +1, but I know some people object to “as printed” for whatever reason. > 2 issues: > Can/should we enter credits with family nam

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread symphonick
2012/1/30 Frederic Da Vitoria > 2012/1/30, caller#6 : > > > > On 01/30/2012 01:43 AM, symphonick wrote: > >> 2012/1/30 Frederic Da Vitoria >> > > >> > >> > >> I'd do the same, but I wouldn't vote No on an edit which included > for > >> example only the soloist

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 01/29/2012 01:48 PM, symphonick wrote: > I have updated http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist > > (the examples exist in MB, but I'm not adding URLs as long as recording > artist = composer) I’m confused…is this RFC for that page or for the originally linked http://wiki.m

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 01/29/2012 10:55 AM, symphonick wrote: > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists > will be in another RFC later). > > This RFC

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/30, caller#6 : > > On 01/30/2012 01:43 AM, symphonick wrote: >> 2012/1/30 Frederic Da Vitoria > > >> >> >> I'd do the same, but I wouldn't vote No on an edit which included for >> example only the soloist if there is no ambiguity issue. >> >> >> Ok. BTW I

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread caller#6
On 01/30/2012 01:43 AM, symphonick wrote: 2012/1/30 Frederic Da Vitoria > I'd do the same, but I wouldn't vote No on an edit which included for example only the soloist if there is no ambiguity issue. Ok. BTW I just remembered the discussion about [unknow

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, symphonick wrote: > 2012/1/30 Frederic Da Vitoria >> >> 2012/1/30, symphonick : >> > 2012/1/29 Frederic Da Vitoria >> > >> >> 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick >> >> >> >>> symphonick writes: >> >>> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits >>

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
symphonick writes: > Ok. BTW I just remembered the discussion about [unknown], so I updated > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits again. > > (& it should really be Recording/Artist, not /Credits) Cool, this looks fine to me. Rupert pgpxfTfpKNnNk.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread symphonick
2012/1/30 Frederic Da Vitoria > 2012/1/30, symphonick : > > 2012/1/29 Frederic Da Vitoria > > > >> 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick > >> > >>> symphonick writes: > >>> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > >>> > > >>> > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/30, symphonick : > 2012/1/29 Frederic Da Vitoria > >> 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick >> >>> symphonick writes: >>> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits >>> > >>> > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear >>> > anything negative about t

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 Frederic Da Vitoria > 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick > >> symphonick writes: >> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits >> > >> > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear >> > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (tra

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick > symphonick writes: > > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > > > > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear > > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists > will > > be in another RFC

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
I have updated http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist (the examples exist in MB, but I'm not adding URLs as long as recording artist = composer) /symphonick 2012/1/29 symphonick > sorry - I'm mixing things up here. disregard the AR stuff. > > > 2012/1/29 symphonick > >> 2

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
sorry - I'm mixing things up here. disregard the AR stuff. 2012/1/29 symphonick > 2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick > >> symphonick writes: >> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits >> > >> > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear >> > anything

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 Rupert Swarbrick > symphonick writes: > > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > > > > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear > > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists > will > > be in another RFC

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread Rupert Swarbrick
symphonick writes: > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits > > Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear > anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists will > be in another RFC later). > > This RFC will expire on Sunday,

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
2012/1/29 lorenz pressler > > > the old CSG performer disambiguation (add performers to the title of the > > release and releasegroup) does not apply anymore. > > this is about recording AC so release or releasegrp is irrelevant. > > Yeah, maybe it is superfluous here. It will be in the release/R

Re: [mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread lorenz pressler
> the old CSG performer disambiguation (add performers to the title of the > release and releasegroup) does not apply anymore. this is about recording AC so release or releasegrp is irrelevant. -- lorenz pressler PGP 0x92E9551A ___ MusicBrainz-sty

[mb-style] RFC-348: Artist Credits for Recordings

2012-01-29 Thread symphonick
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSG2012/Recording/Credits Thought this might be a good place to start the CSG RFCs, didn't hear anything negative about this in the discussion thread. (track artists will be in another RFC later). This RFC will expire on Sunday, February 5th. /symphonick