Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread SwissChris
+1 On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Duke Yin yind...@gmail.com wrote: Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-237 Proposed Change to Style/Titles: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=User%3AYindesu%2FStyle%2FTitlesdiff=64184oldid=64183 Why? I usually try to reach

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread jesus2099
I agree with taking (one of) the spine text(s) over cover in some cases*, but not with taking something that is not seen when you hold the album in your hands (websites, etc.). (*) sometimes the spine only contains a short version due to lack of space and the cover is then primary IMO. -

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread lixobix
For the first 2 paragraphs, wouldn't it be easier to say (more or less): Follow the capitalization standard, unless the title breaks the standard consistently across the release and on official websites. -- View this message in context:

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, lixobix arjtap...@aol.com wrote: For the first 2 paragraphs, wouldn't it be easier to say (more or less): Follow the capitalization standard, unless the title breaks the standard consistently across the release and on official websites. The issue doesn't

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Kuno Woudt
On 08/16/2013 03:31 AM, Duke Yin wrote: Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-237 Proposed Change to Style/Titles: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=User%3AYindesu%2FStyle%2FTitlesdiff=64184oldid=64183 The way words are presented on the front cover artwork of a

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Tom Crocker
On 16 August 2013 11:17, Kuno Woudt k...@frob.nl wrote: On 08/16/2013 03:31 AM, Duke Yin wrote: Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-237 Proposed Change to Style/Titles: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=User%3AYindesu%2FStyle%2FTitlesdiff=64184oldid=64183

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Lemire, Sebastien
I personally prefer the official site of the group/label. Being able to copy/paste from a trusted source reduces the change of copying errors. I have seen many cases of errors on the actual release btw... Sebastien On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Tom Crocker tomcrockerm...@gmail.comwrote:

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Tom Crocker
But there's a big difference between typos and choosing which source takes precedence when there are two (different) correctly spelled titles. On 16 August 2013 13:17, Lemire, Sebastien m...@benji99.ca wrote: I personally prefer the official site of the group/label. Being able to copy/paste

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread lixobix
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, lixobix lt; arjtaplin@ gt; wrote: For the first 2 paragraphs, wouldn't it be easier to say (more or less): Follow the capitalization standard, unless the title breaks the standard consistently across the release and on

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/16/2013 05:17 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote: I think the release itself should take precedence. I'm OK with using the spine or booklet, but not sources external to the physical release. This. But I don’t see why some random page # in the liner notes should take precedence over the actual front

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread lixobix
Alex Mauer wrote On 08/16/2013 05:17 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote: I think the release itself should take precedence. I'm OK with using the spine or booklet, but not sources external to the physical release. This. But I don’t see why some random page # in the liner notes should take precedence

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread SwissChris
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 6:07 PM, lixobix arjtap...@aol.com wrote: Alex Mauer wrote +1 Would this apply to capitalisation? I hope not and I don't think it should. It's a very old consensus on MBz that capitalization is normalized, following the language specific capitalization rules,

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/16/2013 11:36 AM, SwissChris wrote: I hope not and I don't think it should. It's a very old consensus on MBz that capitalization is normalized, following the language specific capitalization rules, unless obvious Artist Intent can be documented. Correct, I would not apply that to

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Rachel Dwight
On Aug 16, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 08/16/2013 05:17 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote: I think the release itself should take precedence. I'm OK with using the spine or booklet, but not sources external to the physical release. This. But I don’t see why some

Re: [mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-16 Thread Jazzy Jarilith
To find out a release title I agree on using not only the packaging but also the official sources (label or artist). Now, on capitalization, we should definitely stick to the guidelines. English not being my native language, I would have a hard time to explain why. But, sometime ago I read an

[mb-style] RFC STYLE-237 (Style/Titles): Prefer plain text over artwork

2013-08-15 Thread Duke Yin
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-237 Proposed Change to Style/Titles: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/index.php?title=User%3AYindesu%2FStyle%2FTitlesdiff=64184oldid=64183 Why? I usually try to reach agreements (or concede my point) in edit comments. After discussing