Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-18 Thread John Long
In the ongoing battle against spammers the latest trick is them not including a message-id header at all. Is there a recipe for Mutt to detect this and score accordingly? Going over the doc and searching the web I haven't had any luck finding any discussion on this. Thanks. /jl -- ASCII ribbon

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-18 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 08:53:03AM +, John Long wrote: > In the ongoing battle against spammers the latest trick is them not > including a message-id header at all. > > Is there a recipe for Mutt to detect this and score accordingly? Going over > the doc and searching the web I haven't had any

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-18 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:14:29AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > >From a quick test, it looks like the simple pattern: > !~h message-id Also, from my testing, make sure you use all lower-case, or mutt will treat it as a case-sensitive match. w

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-19 Thread John Long
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:14:29AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 08:53:03AM +, John Long wrote: > > In the ongoing battle against spammers the latest trick is them not > > including a message-id header at all. > > > > Is there a recipe for Mutt to detect this and score a

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-19 Thread John Long
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 01:32:04PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:14:29AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > >From a quick test, it looks like the simple pattern: > > !~h message-id > > Also, from my testing, make sure you use all lower-case, or mutt will > treat it as a case-

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-20 Thread John Long
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:51:11AM +, Koralatov wrote: > * John Long wrote on 2014-12-19 08:18 +: > >>Many MTAs will add one if it's not present (in Postfix, this is > >>determined by $always_add_missing_headers). > > > >I understand that but these are spammers who seem to be stupid and are

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-20 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 08:18:50AM +, John Long wrote: > > Many MTAs will add one if it's not present (in Postfix, this is > > determined by $always_add_missing_headers). > > I understand that but these are spammers who seem to be stupid and are > trying to obfuscate themselves at the same tim

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-21 Thread John Long
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:19:27PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 08:18:50AM +, John Long wrote: > > > Many MTAs will add one if it's not present (in Postfix, this is > > > determined by $always_add_missing_headers). > > > > I understand that but these are spammers who se

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-21 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* John Long [12-21-14 04:37]: [...] > My point is, Mutt is my MTA and my MUA. I use Mutt's builtin IMAP, POP, > and SMTP. The emails I get from specific spammers have no message-id > and that is unique and if I can killfile based on that I will have > eliminated another category of bastards. No

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-22 Thread Will Yardley
> My point is, Mutt is my MTA and my MUA. I use Mutt's builtin IMAP, POP, and > SMTP. The emails I get from specific spammers have no message-id and that is > unique and if I can killfile based on that I will have eliminated another > category of bastards. Mutt is not *receiving* your emails from