* Kyle Wheeler on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 17:21:44 -0500
On Tuesday, September 18 at 11:55 PM, quoth Alain Bench:
On Thursday, September 6, 2007 at 16:30:42 -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
I had already de-selected Wide Glyphs count as two columns
I wonder what does this option?
From
On Thursday, September 6, 2007 at 15:34:16 -0700, Breen Mullins wrote:
superficially it looks like it was in the linker?
| #0 0x93c10d7c in dyld_stub_unctrl ()
Or like some Ncurses thinggy bellow waddnstr(), and specific to the
linker? I don't know. This should probably be reported to
On Thursday, September 6, 2007 at 16:30:42 -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
I had already de-selected Wide Glyphs count as two columns
I wonder what does this option?
For sending emails with such [curly quotes] characters in them (as
I do a *lot*) is it really better to send them encoded as
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On Tuesday, September 18 at 11:55 PM, quoth Alain Bench:
On Thursday, September 6, 2007 at 16:30:42 -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
I had already de-selected Wide Glyphs count as two columns
I wonder what does this option?
From what I can tell, it
* Alain Bench [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-18 22:52 +0200]:
On Thursday, September 6, 2007 at 15:34:16 -0700, Breen Mullins wrote:
superficially it looks like it was in the linker?
| #0 0x93c10d7c in dyld_stub_unctrl ()
Or like some Ncurses thinggy bellow waddnstr(), and specific to the
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/07/07 @ 08.01.34 -0500]:
Latin1 it is, until further bizarre things pop up. Plus, xterm under
X11 does it right under Latin1, while it is screwy under UTF-8.
(uxterm and other things, like the -u8 option and friends, resulted
in messed-up colors, including no
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On Monday, September 10 at 03:42 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've tried setting it to xterm-16color, 256color, and just color,
all with no dice. The messed-up colors have a precedent. When I
installed OSX 10.4 with Apple's X11, the colors were
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 15.13.49 -0500]:
On Monday, September 10 at 03:42 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've tried setting it to xterm-16color, 256color, and just color,
all with no dice. The messed-up colors have a precedent. When I
installed OSX 10.4 with Apple's X11, the
On 10.09.2007 (17:38), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the link and info. I may play around with it, but I'm hesitant,
because xterm's colors are just fine *unless* I either (1) call uxterm, or
(2) call the factory xterm from Apple as opposed to the one I built myself.
If I tweak
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On Monday, September 10 at 05:38 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thanks for the link and info. I may play around with it, but I'm
hesitant, because xterm's colors are just fine *unless* I either (1)
call uxterm, or (2) call the factory xterm from
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 18.25.23 -0500]:
And of course, you can try them out, and if you don't like the
results, change it back to how it is now without a second thought. :)
I don't know what it is now, since I do not have an ~/.Xdefaults file. (not in
my home dir anyway). Can I
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 18.25.23 -0500]:
And of course, you can try them out, and if you don't like the
results, change it back to how it is now without a second thought. :)
As a matter of fact, I don't seem to have .Xdefaults *anywhere* on my machine.
There is something called
On 2007-09-10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 18.25.23 -0500]:
And of course, you can try them out, and if you don't like the
results, change it back to how it is now without a second thought. :)
I don't know what it is now, since I do not have an
On 10.09.2007 (19:38), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thus spake Kyle Wheeler [09/10/07 @ 18.25.23 -0500]:
And of course, you can try them out, and if you don't like the
results, change it back to how it is now without a second thought. :)
As a matter of fact, I don't seem to have .Xdefaults
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On Thursday, September 6 at 08:59 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Latin1 it is, until further bizarre things pop up. Plus, xterm under
X11 does it right under Latin1, while it is screwy under UTF-8.
(uxterm and other things, like the -u8 option and
It seems to me that my own problems are related to this thread, so
I'll chime in here (with a Was:... change of the subject line). I've
found some really useful information, both in the reply to my intial
mail a few days back, and in this thread, but my attempts at changing
things here and there
Hello Kyle,
On Tuesday, September 4, 2007 at 23:01:13 -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
What makes you say that [UTF-8 on Macs is] less stable?
There were several reports of Mutt freezes on MacOS-X in UTF-8
locales, when stepping on various sorts of mails with invalid
characters (and now even on
On Wednesday, September 5, 2007 at 11:32:03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/05/07 @ 00.01.21 +0200]:
I dropped the replacements, and just kept the uia in subject
I'm in console vim composing the reply, and the subject line
characters are rendered properly, i.e.,
Hi Breen,
On Tuesday, September 4, 2007 at 20:09:14 -0700, Breen Mullins wrote:
the U+FFDD this morning caused mutt to freeze [...] I got a backtrace
this time, if it's helpful. Looks like it's in the library.
Which library? Last backtrace I saw of such a MacOS freeze pointed
to Ncurses
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On Thursday, September 6 at 08:08 PM, quoth Alain Bench:
Hello Kyle,
Hiya Alain,
There were several reports of Mutt freezes on MacOS-X in UTF-8
locales, when stepping on various sorts of mails with invalid
characters (and now even on the
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On Thursday, September 6 at 07:17 PM, quoth Alain Bench:
The thread arrows are drawn correctly except that they have spaces
between them, like a dashed line. I'll maybe mess with nsterm later.
So that's not a TERM problem: I've already seen
* Alain Bench [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-06 19:19 +0200]:
Hi Breen,
Which library? Last backtrace I saw of such a MacOS freeze pointed
to Ncurses waddch_nosync(). But I'd tend to suspect more something in
the libc, called by Ncurses.
Ugh. I'm not sure I know how to read this -
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/06/07 @ 19.17.56 +0200]:
And the ui arrived here cleanly. This may mean the replacements
were inserted when you entered the uia. Where? At Mutt's subject
prompt? Or in Vim in $edit_headers? Typed, or Pasted?
Hmm, I don't know. I didn't paste it in. I'm pretty
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On Tuesday, September 4 at 11:26 PM, quoth Kyle Wheeler:
Speaking of which, any idea how to get it to behave in a more
xterm-like fashion? Namely, when I exit a program (such as man or
less or mutt), I like that xterm restores the terminal to
Thus spake Alain Bench [09/05/07 @ 00.01.21 +0200]:
Exactly. When I said they have to agree, it was about the charset
only. However, muttrc doesn't want to set $charset: The default value is
automatically derived from the current locale. This automatic link was
absent or broken in previous
On Monday, September 3, 2007 at 15:22:31 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my muttrc, which wants to see set charset=UTF-8 instead of
=en_US.UTF-8, while the latter is what $LANG wants to see.
Exactly. When I said they have to agree, it was about the charset
only. However, muttrc doesn't
* Alain Bench [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-05 00:01 +0200]:
On Monday, September 3, 2007 at 15:22:31 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All seems well in body. Subject is []üîå[], meaning uia flanked
by 2 U+FFFD replacement characters (in my font they look like empty
squares). That seems to be
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On Wednesday, September 5 at 12:01 AM, quoth Alain Bench:
It is however a little less portable, a little more difficult to
setup (nothing hairy), and on Macs a little less stable.
I haven't had any trouble with it on Macs, and Macs are what I use
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On Tuesday, September 4 at 11:01 PM, quoth Kyle Wheeler:
Those semigraphic chars should work provided that $charset=utf-8
exactly (that's the default value derived from LANG=en_US.UTF-8),
that TERM=nsterm-16color, and that you have unchecked
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