Hi,
* David Champion wrote:
[ POP3 needs locking ]
That's implementation-dependent though. A server might require locking,
but it's not inherent to the protocol and it's possible to implement
one that has few of the contstraints that people have mentioned in this
thread.
RfC1939
RfC1939 explicitely states that the maildrop (mailbox) needs to be
locked once a client is authenticated, see section 4. It doesn't say
what exactly the lock means, though. At least I read it like that.
This is drifting pretty far away from mutt, and I doubt any of us are
writing new POP
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:34:18PM +0100, Rocco Rutte wrote:
Hi,
* Chris G wrote:
On
the other hand if you *don't* need to access mail from anywhere then
IMAP is slower than other ways of doing it and doesn't add any other
particular advantages.
Depends. Most people using IMAP use it
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 09:13:34PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote:
The main drawback, and the mainreason I don't use it directly is that
unless you run a local server with the low latency that gives you,
it's just too slow. 1 second to display an email is more noticeable
than you'd think before
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:51:56PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
Another meta-question, where can I find a straight-forward description of
imap, without the enthusiastic pushing? What is it?
it's just a protocol to access email on a remote server. that description
would apply to pop3 as well. the
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 07:06:12AM +0100, Joost Kremers wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:51:56PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
Not in some narrow sense,
but what is involved in 'being an imap user'?
first, your mail server has to support it. then you simply set up your mail
client to use imap.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 02:18:01AM -0400, Ed Blackman wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 07:06:12AM +0100, Joost Kremers wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:51:56PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
Not in some narrow sense,
but what is involved in 'being an imap user'?
first, your mail server has to
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 07:06:12AM +0100, Joost Kremers wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:51:56PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
Another meta-question, where can I find a straight-forward description of
imap, without the enthusiastic pushing? What is it?
it's just a protocol to access email
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 07:01:14AM +0100, Joost Kremers wrote:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 09:13:34PM +0100, Henrik Enberg wrote:
The main drawback, and the mainreason I don't use it directly is that
unless you run a local server with the low latency that gives you,
it's just too slow. 1
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:06:14AM +, Chris G wrote:
Are they on your LAN? Using IMAP across the internet (even with a
good ADSL connection) can never really be as quick as a local mbox
spool, especially if you're dealing with attachments and such. Think
about it - a 1Mbyte attachment is
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:06:14AM +, Chris G wrote:
Are they on your LAN? Using IMAP across the internet (even with a
good ADSL connection) can never really be as quick as a local mbox
spool, especially if you're dealing with attachments and such. Think
about it - a 1Mbyte attachment is
Hi,
* Chris G wrote:
On
the other hand if you *don't* need to access mail from anywhere then
IMAP is slower than other ways of doing it and doesn't add any other
particular advantages.
Depends. Most people using IMAP use it through IMAP providers which
guarantee you 24/7 availability. You
Hi,
* Joost Kremers wrote:
so the leave mail on server option that most pop-clients have is
certainly not a convenient way to access your mail remotely from different
locations.
Plus: POP needs locking, i.e. only one client at a time can access the
mailbox which implies that tools should not
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:32:23AM +0100, Joost Kremers wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:06:14AM +, Chris G wrote:
Are they on your LAN? Using IMAP across the internet (even with a
good ADSL connection) can never really be as quick as a local mbox
spool, especially if you're dealing
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:06:14AM +, Chris G wrote:
Are they on your LAN? Using IMAP across the internet (even with a
good ADSL connection) can never really be as quick as a local mbox
spool, especially if you're dealing with
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:02:12AM +, Chris G wrote:
*By default* in both cases. There's nothing that actually forces you
to leave mail on an IMAP server, neither is there anything that forces
you to remove mail when you download it from a POP3 server. However
most POP3 services expect
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:34:18PM +0100, Rocco Rutte wrote:
Depends. Most people using IMAP use it through IMAP providers which
guarantee you 24/7 availability. You mostly have professional admins
who do the work for you and ensure you have access to mail. With local
management, that would be
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:23:30AM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:06:14AM +, Chris G wrote:
Are they on your LAN? Using IMAP across the internet (even with a
good ADSL connection) can never really be as quick as a local mbox
spool, especially if you're dealing with
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 04:13:19PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
and IMAP makes it possible for me to sue my own client when I can.
I'm so glad you're not my lawyer.
HA! Whoops, typo. :D
~Kyle
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On Thursday, March 19 at 09:21 AM, quoth Marc Vaillant:
Sorry, but I think, here you are wrong. Good IMAP-Clients don’t
download the attachments without your interaction (at least you can
configure them in such a way). So the reading of the mails
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:06:16AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
On Thursday, March 19 at 09:21 AM, quoth Marc Vaillant:
Sorry, but I think, here you are wrong. Good IMAP-Clients don’t
download the attachments without your interaction (at least you can
configure them in such a way). So the
I think the best summary is that IMAP is a remote mailbox access
protocol, supporting all common mailbox operations at the protocol
level. POP is not: it supports full message retrieval, new-message scan
(kind of, via UIDL), and deletion. This makes it, at best, a queued
message pull protocol.
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On Thursday, March 19 at 10:42 AM, quoth David Champion:
I think the best summary is that IMAP is a remote mailbox access
protocol, supporting all common mailbox operations at the protocol
level. POP is not: it supports full message retrieval,
Hello,
i have a meta-question.
imap-issues are being discussed on this list quite frequently. i wonder what
the benefit of imap generally is?
if you have access to broadband flatrate internet (as many people in
agglomerations here in germany do) i can't think of the benefit of managing my
mails
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 09:01:38PM +0100, Jan-Herbert Damm wrote:
Hello,
i have a meta-question.
imap-issues are being discussed on this list quite frequently. i wonder what
the benefit of imap generally is?
if you have access to broadband flatrate internet (as many people
Jan-Herbert Damm jan-h-d...@web.de writes:
if you have access to broadband flatrate internet (as many people in
agglomerations here in germany do) i can't think of the benefit of
managing my mails on a remote server.
Well, It's quite useful if you wish to access your mail on many
different
* Henrik Enberg enb...@gmail.com [03-18-09 16:18]:
Well, It's quite useful if you wish to access your mail on many
different computers and mobile devices. In fact, fast flatrate
connectivity probably increases the usefulness of something like IMAP.
The main drawback, and the mainreason I
On 2009-03-18, Jan-Herbert Damm jan-h-d...@web.de wrote:
i have a meta-question.
imap-issues are being discussed on this list quite frequently.
i wonder what the benefit of imap generally is?
Compared to what?
if you have access to broadband flatrate internet (as many
people
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On Wednesday, March 18 at 09:01 PM, quoth Jan-Herbert Damm:
imap-issues are being discussed on this list quite frequently. i
wonder what the benefit of imap generally is?
The same as any network-accessible system: access.
Here's a comparable
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 04:13:19PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
and IMAP makes it possible for me to sue my own client when I can.
I'm so glad you're not my lawyer.
festus
--
I just want to break even.
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On 2009-03-18_21:01:38, Jan-Herbert Damm wrote:
Hello,
i have a meta-question.
imap-issues are being discussed on this list quite frequently. i wonder what
the benefit of imap generally is?
if you have access to broadband flatrate internet (as many people in
agglomerations here
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