Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-12-09 Thread Darren Hart
On 12/7/07, Darren Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 08 November 2007 22:28:08 Scott Barker wrote: > > I've just purchased a widescreen TV that has the ability to "zoom" the > > picture when a 16:9 show is broadcast over a regular SD 4:3 channel in a > > letterbox format. I record all

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-12-07 Thread Darren Hart
On Thursday 08 November 2007 22:28:08 Scott Barker wrote: > I've just purchased a widescreen TV that has the ability to "zoom" the > picture when a 16:9 show is broadcast over a regular SD 4:3 channel in a > letterbox format. I record all of my TV shows using MythTV, and have > regular NTSC SD cabl

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-12-07 Thread Darren Hart
On Thursday 08 November 2007 22:28:08 Scott Barker wrote: > I've just purchased a widescreen TV that has the ability to "zoom" the > picture when a 16:9 show is broadcast over a regular SD 4:3 channel in a > letterbox format. I record all of my TV shows using MythTV, and have > regular NTSC SD cabl

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-20 Thread Simon Hyde
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Tom Metro wrote: > Simon Hyde wrote: >> The MVP can and does output widescreen signals (they're electronically >> identicle to 4:3 signals). There is no difference between a 4:3 PAL/NTSC >> signal and a 16:9 signal. The analogue signal describing a line lasts 52 >> microsecond

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-20 Thread Roger Heflin
Simon Hyde wrote: > > Ahhh...Right...now I see what you're talking about. The problem you're > seeing here has nothing to do with the MVP's support for widescreen TV. > The hardware MPEG decoder in the MVP only supports MPEGs with a standard > number of lines, 480 for NTSC and 576 for PAL (and

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-20 Thread Roger Heflin
Tom Metro wrote: > > > Roger Heflin wrote: >> ...were both talking about zoom on the widescreen TV itself to make a >> 4:3 letterbox display go full screen... > ... >> Currently I take a HDTV 16:9 convert it, crop it to just the signal >> and then center it back to in the center of the 4:3 displ

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-20 Thread Simon Hyde
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Roger Heflin wrote: >> Roger Heflin wrote: >>> Also note that if you put a widescreen without letterbox the video >>> shows at the top of the screen the the zoom function works badly. >> >> Nope, I fixed that almost 2 years ago (the commit was made by jon on 18th >> of Decem

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-19 Thread Tom Metro
Simon Hyde wrote: > The MVP can and does output widescreen signals (they're electronically > identicle to 4:3 signals). There is no difference between a 4:3 PAL/NTSC > signal and a 16:9 signal. The analogue signal describing a line lasts 52 > microseconds for both. Wasn't this a technique origi

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-19 Thread Roger Heflin
Simon Hyde wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, MVallevand wrote: > > > The MVP can output "true widescreen" > > > The MVP can and does output widescreen signals (they're electronically > identicle to 4:3 signals). There is no difference between a 4:3 PAL/NTSC > si

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-19 Thread Simon Hyde
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, MVallevand wrote: > That's for video, which as mentioned works. Simon's great WSS code > often helps too even when that is not set. Hello! Someone mentioned widescreen. I know a bit too much about that! The way that widescreen telly is implemented is a rather confusing matte

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread Roger Heflin
Tom Metro wrote: > MVallevand wrote: >> Scott Barker wrote: >>> However, the OSD for mvpmc is designed to fit an un-zoomed 4:3 TV >>> display, so in the zoomed 16:9 mode on my TV, the OSD is chopped off on >>> the top and bottom. Does mvpmc have any configurable options to >>> reposition the OSD so

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread MVallevand
On Nov 9, 2007 2:21 PM, Scott Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My cableco also just letterboxes 16:9 into a 4:3 NTSC signal (hence my > original question). I'll see if I have any other files in native 16:9. I > assume mvpmc can play such files natively, as long as they are MPEG2? Yes, that why

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread Scott Barker
On 11/09/07 11:55, MVallevand wrote: > It's probably best to see it in action if google and wikipedia don't > help you.. View a vob file that you know is 16:9, set your aspect > ratio 4:3 and it should be still be widescreen.Next turn wss off > using the --no-wss command line option and view

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread MVallevand
On Nov 9, 2007 1:34 PM, Scott Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I saw reference to the WSS code, but couldn't find any useful > description of what that actually does, or what it's for. Is that > information available somewhere? It's probably best to see it in action if google and wikipedia don'

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread Scott Barker
On 11/09/07 11:31, MVallevand wrote: >> I don't know whether it works, but see the aspect command line switch (-a): > > That's for video, which as mentioned works. Simon's great WSS code > often helps too even when that is not set. I saw reference to the WSS code, but couldn't find any useful

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread Scott Barker
On 11/09/07 11:22, Tom Metro wrote: > I don't know whether it works, but see the aspect command line switch (-a): > > http://mvpmc.wikispaces.com/commandline#a > > It seems to be intended for what you want. If it doesn't, please expand > upon the explanation in the wiki to clarify what it does d

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread MVallevand
On Nov 9, 2007 1:22 PM, Tom Metro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really? Understandable that the MVP can't output true widescreen, but > the OP is asking about simulated widescreen within a SD NTSC signal. > Shouldn't it be possible to have the software use a smaller portion of > the display? It's s

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-09 Thread Tom Metro
MVallevand wrote: > Scott Barker wrote: >> However, the OSD for mvpmc is designed to fit an un-zoomed 4:3 TV >> display, so in the zoomed 16:9 mode on my TV, the OSD is chopped off on >> the top and bottom. Does mvpmc have any configurable options to >> reposition the OSD so that it looks correct o

Re: [Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-08 Thread MVallevand
On Nov 9, 2007 1:28 AM, Scott Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, the OSD for mvpmc is designed to fit an un-zoomed 4:3 TV > display, so in the zoomed 16:9 mode on my TV, the OSD is chopped off on > the top and bottom. Does mvpmc have any configurable options to > reposition the OSD so tha

[Mvpmc-users] OSD and widescreen TVs

2007-11-08 Thread Scott Barker
I've just purchased a widescreen TV that has the ability to "zoom" the picture when a 16:9 show is broadcast over a regular SD 4:3 channel in a letterbox format. I record all of my TV shows using MythTV, and have regular NTSC SD cable. MythTV records all the shows at 720x480, mvpmc plays the sh