Regarding the recent thread on NuSphere.  ( Jeapardy style so you don't have
to read it again)

GPL violation or not, part of my decisions are always based on morals (hard
to find these days).  Anyone trying to capture an audience using anothers
name is un-ethical and un-moral.  My business decision will be made with
this in mind.  Sometimes it is not the best business decision but I can
always live with it.

Joel Nelson


> "Gerald R. Jensen" wrote:
> >
> > Monty:
> >
> > I was on the verge of authorizing the purchase of 3 copies of NuSphere's
> > PHPEd package (US$300 each) for our developers when I became aware of
the
> > controversy surrounding 'Enhanced MySQL' and mysql.org.
> >
> > The purchase order went into the round file, and Hell will freeze over
> > before I buy anything from NuSphere.
> >
> > A small gesture, perhaps, but an appropriate one. At least our company
won't
> > be contributing to their largess. Even people with such deplorable
business
> > ethics understand a loss of income from sales.
> [==== snip, snip ===============]
>
> Do not jump to the conclusion that I am starting out to be an apologist
> for NuSphere/Progress.  It is wise to honor the old dictum
> "Never ascribe malice to that which can be attributed to ignorance".
> I am not sure if this type of emotional leap is proper until a
> bit more information comes out and some of the heat dies down.
>
> There are always two sides to every situation.
>
> There are two issues, the domain mysql.org, and the other, more
> difficult to understand, the aspect of "GPL violation".
>
> The domain/trademark issue will get settled by legal means and
> there is enough of a corpus of law precedent that a settlement
> and/or judgement will occur.  I personally do not see such a great
> importance of mysql.org in this matter.  Obviously, many of you
> on this list do not share this opinion.
>
> Now most of us in/using Open Source probably do not _really_
> understand the meaning and ramifications of the GPL.  We _think_
> we know, and we certainly have a "feeling" about what the GPL
> "means".  Ironically, Richard Stallman's take is, in a legal sense,
> crystal clear compared with the GPL.  NuSphere indicated that
> is was going to put their products under the GPL.  They have
> indicated that Gemini will be GPL's.  Are they to be punished
> for "being late" in doing so?  NuSphere supports Open Source
> and is public on this position.
>
> The irony of this situation is that it _may_ be to the advantage
> of the Open Source community if NuSphere is not knee-jerked
> pilloried, and tarred and feathered out of the minds of the
> Open Source community.  It is complete speculation upon my
> part that ultimately, MySQL will be replaced in all those
> embedded applications where Progress now sits.  Though it
> may change in the near future, commercial developers needing
> an embedded database usually prefer a solution like Progress
> because of the Company-behind-it, rather than have MySQL.
> MySQL may/would gain credibility if Progress is replaced.
>
> Now, I hope this is all settled to everybody's benefit.
> It may not be possible because of emotion.  But I know that
> I would personally like to see MySQL start to creep into
> large manufacturing management systems and other systems
> where Progress now has a significant hold.  Then, and only
> then, will the community be able to easily "tap into" MySQL and
> offer better intranets, tools,  and other solutions.
>
> So, I am suggesting to everyone to just "wait and see".  It
> might not be as bad as it seems...
>
> --
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