Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-24 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:54:03PM -0400, Dave wrote: > I believe this statement is incorrect. > > 1080i and 1080p (the ones specified by the ATSC standard at least) > require the same amount of bandwidth. > 1080i is transmitted at 60 fields/sec, which is equivalent (as a field > is half a frame)

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-24 Thread Dave
On 5/22/05, Joe Barnhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Matt Mossholder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's my understanding that this is a limitation of HDMI/DVI, not > > something that Samsung chose not to implement. It doesn't support > > enough > > bandwidth to do 1080p. > > I think yo

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-22 Thread Joe Barnhart
--- Matt Mossholder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's my understanding that this is a limitation of HDMI/DVI, not > something that Samsung chose not to implement. It doesn't support > enough > bandwidth to do 1080p. I think you are correct. There was a good article about DVI on Tom's Hardware s

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-22 Thread Kyle Rose
> It's my understanding that this is a limitation of HDMI/DVI, not > something that Samsung chose not to implement. It doesn't support enough > bandwidth to do 1080p. > > Of course, I can't remember where I saw it, so I could be making things > up. My brain does that these days. LOL, imagining th

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-22 Thread Matt Mossholder
On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 11:23 -0400, Kyle Rose wrote: > Michael T. Dean wrote: > > Jack R. Hyde wrote: > > > >> The problem with the new 1080p samsungs is that they don't support 1080p > >> over the HDMI/DVI port. > >> > >> > > That's interesting (and sad). Kind of like stopping 10 feet short of

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-22 Thread Kyle Rose
Michael T. Dean wrote: > Jack R. Hyde wrote: > >> The problem with the new 1080p samsungs is that they don't support 1080p >> over the HDMI/DVI port. >> >> > That's interesting (and sad). Kind of like stopping 10 feet short of > the finish in a marathon. It's especially dumb because one of the

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-22 Thread Michael T. Dean
Jack R. Hyde wrote: The problem with the new 1080p samsungs is that they don't support 1080p over the HDMI/DVI port. That's interesting (and sad). Kind of like stopping 10 feet short of the finish in a marathon. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing lis

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-22 Thread Michael T. Dean
Joe Barnhart wrote: --- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do any broadcasters actually use 1080p, anyway (either 1080p30 or 1080p24)? I don't think so. I don't think it is one of the specified ATSC standard rates, is it? It is, although I really can't see much of a use for

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Joe Barnhart
--- "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, 1080p and (true) 1080i both have the same resolution. The > difference is how often the pixels are updated. However you want to > say > it, I just want a TV with 1920x1080 pixels. I have one of those "obsolete technology" CRT proje

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Isaac Richards
On Saturday 21 May 2005 09:45 pm, James Armstrong wrote: > On May 21, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Brad Templeton wrote: > > On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 12:26:35PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: > >> One reason that I haven't yet purchased a high-definition TV is > >> the fact > >> that TV's being sold today do no

RE: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Jack R. Hyde
The problem with the new 1080p samsungs is that they don't support 1080p over the HDMI/DVI port. I can't stand to use the VGA/component ports on my 720p DLP after seeing the difference DVI makes. It's night and day with an HTPC. I would wait for them or somebody else to fix that problem before I in

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread James Armstrong
On May 21, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Brad Templeton wrote:On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 12:26:35PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: One reason that I haven't yet purchased a high-definition TV is the fact that TV's being sold today do not fully support the ATSC standard.  Whereas the maximum resolution allowable in

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Michael T. Dean
Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:18:54PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: i think you mean 1080p? Actually, 1080p and (true) 1080i both have the same resolution. Not really. 1080p is a 1080 scanline, 30 *frame* per second format. 1080i is a 540 scanline, 60 *fie

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 02:18:54PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: > > i think you mean 1080p? > > Actually, 1080p and (true) 1080i both have the same resolution. Not really. 1080p is a 1080 scanline, 30 *frame* per second format. 1080i is a 540 scanline, 60 *field* per second format. Cheers, -

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Brad Templeton
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 12:26:35PM -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote: > One reason that I haven't yet purchased a high-definition TV is the fact > that TV's being sold today do not fully support the ATSC standard. > Whereas the maximum resolution allowable in the ATSC standard is > 1920x1080 pixels,

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Michael T. Dean
Gregorio Gervasio, Jr. wrote: The first post in this thread contains a bunch of information that people have gathered about Samsung's 1080p DLPs: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=089d8abb2bcac71df9fa69f04eaf555f&threadid=493443 Many other manufacturers have also announced 1080p

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Michael T. Dean
Donavan Stanley wrote: On 5/21/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do any broadcasters actually use 1080p, anyway (either 1080p30 or 1080p24)? Most don't even use 1080i from waht I've seen. Pretty much every show I record is in 720p. I guess that makes the most sense with

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Donavan Stanley
On 5/21/05, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do any broadcasters actually use 1080p, anyway (either 1080p30 or 1080p24)? Most don't even use 1080i from waht I've seen. Pretty much every show I record is in 720p. ___ mythtv-users mailing list

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Michael T. Dean
gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) wrote: Michael T. Dean wrote: it's been impossible to buy a brand new TV that supports full 1080i resolution pretty much since the introduction of DLP. i think you mean 1080p? Actually, 1080p and (true) 1080i both have the same resolution. The difference is how of

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Gregorio Gervasio, Jr.
> Michael T Dean writes: m> So, anyway, I've been watching for someone to come out with a m> 1920x1080 TV and it seems that Samsung is planning to release the m> HLR6768W in the June/July timeframe ( m> http://www.cnet.com/4520-10602_1-5619186-1.html and m> http://www.newsday.com/entertainment

Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)
Michael T. Dean wrote: it's been impossible to buy a brand new TV that supports full 1080i resolution pretty much since the introduction of DLP. i think you mean 1080p? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/m

[mythtv-users] [OT] *Real* High-Def TV!

2005-05-21 Thread Michael T. Dean
One reason that I haven't yet purchased a high-definition TV is the fact that TV's being sold today do not fully support the ATSC standard. Whereas the maximum resolution allowable in the ATSC standard is 1920x1080 pixels, today's TV's only support 1280x720 pixels resolution. While it's true