Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-28 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Martin Brown wrote: Thanks to all who have spoken up about this behaviour. If I can summarise: With dual tuners and global pre/post program time buffers, MythTV will discard the global buffering for consecutive programs and record them both from the one card. For program specific pre/post buffe

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-28 Thread Martin Brown
Thanks to all who have spoken up about this behaviour. If I can summarise: With dual tuners and global pre/post program time buffers, MythTV will discard the global buffering for consecutive programs and record them both from the one card. For program specific pre/post buffering, however, this wi

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-27 Thread Ashley Bostock
Totally agree. Any idea if this would be easy to implement for someone familiar to the schedular code? On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:05:26 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:43:28AM -0500, Isaac Richards wrote: > > And it'll continue to work this way. Global

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:43:28AM -0500, Isaac Richards wrote: > And it'll continue to work this way. Global padding is optional. Recording > specific padding isn't, and will cause recordings to bump to a different card > in the case of conflicts. However, global padding is discarded too easi

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 07:34:56AM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > It seems what you are proposing is a change to the scheduler to take > global padding into consideration when more than one card is present > and, barring other scheduling conflicts, use multiple tuners to capture > the padding when

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 03:31:49PM +1100, Phill Edwards wrote: > > This sounds like a bug the more I think about it. > > You're kidding. Much as I love MythTV, that sucks :( I was going to > buy a 2nd tunrer card to overcome this problem, but if it doesn't work > that's a real bummer. I would agre

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Kevin Kuphal
PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: "Ashley Bostock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/24/2004 3:23:33 PM >>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:56:43 +, Martin Ebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 07:34 -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: It seems what you are proposing is a change to the sch

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
"Ashley Bostock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/24/2004 3:23:33 PM >>> >On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:56:43 +, Martin Ebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 07:34 -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > > > It seems what you are proposing is a change to the scheduler to take > > > global paddi

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Ashley Bostock
If the 2 cards are there and the second is not in use at the time then why not? Makes sence to me. On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:56:43 +, Martin Ebourne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 07:34 -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > > It seems what you are proposing is a change to the schedul

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Isaac Richards
On Friday 24 December 2004 04:26 am, Ashley Bostock wrote: > ok sorry, but the same happens for me when I have 2 programs recorded > on the same channel one after the other, only one tuner is used - > result is the same when using the global record earily and late > settings. > > So for everything

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Martin Ebourne
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 07:34 -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote: > It seems what you are proposing is a change to the scheduler to take > global padding into consideration when more than one card is present > and, barring other scheduling conflicts, use multiple tuners to capture > the padding whenever po

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Ashley Bostock wrote: Behaves that way for me! I have 2 dvb cards. I have it globally set to start 1min earily and end 5mins late on recordings. If I schedule something to record on channel 1 from 20:00 till 21:00 and also on channel 2 from 21:00 till 22:00 and there are no other recordings set, my

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Ashley Bostock
ok sorry, but the same happens for me when I have 2 programs recorded on the same channel one after the other, only one tuner is used - result is the same when using the global record earily and late settings. So for everything I record I have to work out if there is the situation as discribed in

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Paul Woodward
;>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners>>On Friday 24 December 2004 03:29 am, Ashley Bostock wrote: >> Behaves that way for me! > >And what you describe isn't what the other guy was saying, unless he was >mangling english rather badly. > >&

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Isaac Richards
On Friday 24 December 2004 03:29 am, Ashley Bostock wrote: > Behaves that way for me! And what you describe isn't what the other guy was saying, unless he was mangling english rather badly. > I have 2 dvb cards. I have it globally set to start 1min earily and > end 5mins late on recordings. > >

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-24 Thread Ashley Bostock
Behaves that way for me! I have 2 dvb cards. I have it globally set to start 1min earily and end 5mins late on recordings. If I schedule something to record on channel 1 from 20:00 till 21:00 and also on channel 2 from 21:00 till 22:00 and there are no other recordings set, myth will only use one

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-23 Thread Isaac Richards
On Thursday 23 December 2004 11:31 pm, Phill Edwards wrote: > > Unfortunately, a second tuner card does _NOT_ necessarily solve this > > problem. You'd think it would but no. > > > > If the two programs are on the same channel, only the one tuner will be > > used, the end of the first program will

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-23 Thread Phill Edwards
> Unfortunately, a second tuner card does _NOT_ necessarily solve this problem. > You'd think it would > but no. > > If the two programs are on the same channel, only the one tuner will be used, > the end of the first > program will be on the file for the second program. Sure, it's recorded ...

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-20 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 03:31:13PM +1100, Martin Brown wrote: > Unfortunately, a second tuner card does _NOT_ necessarily solve this > problem. You'd think it would but no. > > If the two programs are on the same channel, only the one tuner will be > used, the end of the first program will be on

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-20 Thread Martin Brown
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Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-17 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 07:59:23AM +, Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would have thought it was generally better to miss the first minute > of a show rather than the last, which would suggest that waiting for the > f

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-17 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Tom Hughes wrote: I would have thought it was generally better to miss the first minute of a show rather than the last, which would suggest that waiting for the first show to finish before reusing the tuner would be a better choice. Agreed, I'd much rather miss the first minute than have the sys

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-17 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phill Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I'm proposing is this. Currently if a recording goes from 8pm to > > 9:01pm and another goes from 9:00pm to 10:00pm, the second will not be > > recorded (assuming 1 tuner) because of the overlap. I'd like

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-16 Thread Phill Edwards
> What I'm proposing is this. Currently if a recording goes from 8pm to > 9:01pm and another goes from 9:00pm to 10:00pm, the second will not be > recorded (assuming 1 tuner) because of the overlap. I'd like the > scheduler, at 9:01pm, to recognize that program 2 is only 1 minute into > the show

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-16 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Phill Edwards wrote: Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you're proposing here. Could you please elaborate? One suggestion I have on this would be to combine the 2 programs into a single recording and provide some functionality to allow them to be cut into 2 later on when watching it. That may al

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-16 Thread Phill Edwards
> I'm pretty sure you can put a negative value in for start early to > effectively start late. Thanks - I'll give that a go. > One of the things on my list of things to look > at is allowing the scheduler to start recording overlapping programs if > the overlap ends within X minutes of the star

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-16 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Phill Edwards wrote: Wouldn't be based in Australia by any chance would you? I am and I've foudn that the program overuns are really bad. I'm thinking of setting my recordings up to always start and end 2 mins late. Haha, I'm also in Australia. I have programs setup to end 10 minutes late

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-16 Thread Phill Edwards
> > >Wouldn't be based in Australia by any chance would you? I am and I've > > >foudn that the program overuns are really bad. I'm thinking of setting > > >my recordings up to always start and end 2 mins late. > > > > Haha, I'm also in Australia. I have programs setup to end 10 minutes > > late.

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 04:27:25PM +1100, Craig Read wrote: > Phill Edwards wrote: > > > > >Wouldn't be based in Australia by any chance would you? I am and I've > >foudn that the program overuns are really bad. I'm thinking of setting > >my recordings up to always start and end 2 mins late. >

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-12 Thread Phill Edwards
ay to allow the 2nd one to start? And that's why your 1st program finishes in the 2nd's recording? Regards, Phill From: Martin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners Date: M

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-12 Thread Martin Brown
Where else would Star Trek start anytime between 10 minutes early and 40 minutes late? And commercial stations are concerned when people jump at the chance to skip their lousy commercials! - You bet I'm from Australia. But even a very small over-run means that the first program finishes in the se

Re: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-09 Thread Craig Read
Phill Edwards wrote: Wouldn't be based in Australia by any chance would you? I am and I've foudn that the program overuns are really bad. I'm thinking of setting my recordings up to always start and end 2 mins late. Haha, I'm also in Australia. I have programs setup to end 10 minutes late. Th

RE: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-09 Thread Phill Edwards
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:34:30 +1100 If I have 2 programs set to record (on the same channel) and have 2 tuners, it would be great if the first program was recorded from one tuner card with a pro

[mythtv-users] Consecutive programs, dual tuners

2004-12-09 Thread Martin Brown
If I have 2 programs set to record (on the same channel) and have 2 tuners, it would be great if the first program was recorded from one tuner card with a programmed delayed finish and the second program recorded on the second tune card (possibly with a programmed early start). As it is at the mo