Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-31 Thread Dan wolf
I had a Maxtor die in 1 month. That sucked. On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:01:56 +0100, Maarten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 31 December 2004 10:58, David Rees wrote: > > Dan wolf wrote, On 12/30/2004 2:24 PM: > > > Don't buy Maxtors, they are famous for poor quality and unreliability. > > >

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-31 Thread Maarten
On Friday 31 December 2004 10:58, David Rees wrote: > Dan wolf wrote, On 12/30/2004 2:24 PM: > > Don't buy Maxtors, they are famous for poor quality and unreliability. > > Western Digital, too. This is not absolutely true. I've owned 4 pcs 40GB maxtors and still own 6 pcs 80GB maxtors. They're

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-31 Thread Dan wolf
No, I beleive the "Click of Death" came from the sound of a dead Jazz/Zip drive. Anyway, I guess I got lucky with that IBM drive then. On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:58:36 -0800, David Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan wolf wrote, On 12/30/2004 2:24 PM: > > Don't buy Maxtors, they are famous for poor

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-31 Thread David Rees
Dan wolf wrote, On 12/30/2004 2:24 PM: Don't buy Maxtors, they are famous for poor quality and unreliability. Western Digital, too. Seagates and IBMs are the best. I have a drive around 10 years old from IBM and it is still working. I have it hooked up to a server, but I'm not sure why I keep it

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-30 Thread Dan wolf
Don't buy Maxtors, they are famous for poor quality and unreliability. Western Digital, too. Seagates and IBMs are the best. I have a drive around 10 years old from IBM and it is still working. I have it hooked up to a server, but I'm not sure why I keep it, has hardly any space. On Tue, 28 D

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-28 Thread Greg Cope
Sorry, meant no. Most disk failures that I have seen (100+ disks, in DC's that have 1000's) have been when the systems have been power cycled, and the disks fail at startup or just after. Normal policy at some places is to replace at the the 1st sign of errors, as you can factor this work in when

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 10:00:39AM +, Greg Cope wrote: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:43:33 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does a disk which is spinning 24x7 but is mostly idle > > (eg my Myth installation) fail more quickly than a disk > > which is powered off for those other h

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-28 Thread Greg Cope
I'd say yes, as in most datacentres I've seen more disks die at spinup/start up than during normal 247 use. On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 12:43:33 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does a disk which is spinning 24x7 but is mostly idle > (eg my Myth installation) fail more quickly than a di

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:44:26PM -0800, CrAzY mAD wrote: > There's a very interesting read on this in a Seagate > whitepaper > (http://www.seagate.com/content/docs/pdf/whitepaper/D2c_More_than_Interface_ATA_vs_SCSI_042003.pdf) The article explains why performance is lower for PS drives, but does

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Chris Petersen
1 / I have been told by two large storage vendors that they "cherry pick" the best SATA drives for their Enterprise Disk Arrays. You can read this in various ways, I take it to mean that while hard-drives past testing to be sold, they are not all equal (similar to testing and speed rating CPU'

Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread Steve Christall
CrAzY mAD wrote: As jra at baylink pointed out, no IDE personal computer drive, from any manufacture, is designed to run 24x7x365. According to Seagate, a PS (personal storage) drive is only designed to be on for 8 hours a day, 300 days a year. This equates to 2,400 hours a year. A ES (enterpri

[mythtv-users] Re: Hard Drives that Actually Work?

2004-12-14 Thread CrAzY mAD
As jra at baylink pointed out, no IDE personal computer drive, from any manufacture, is designed to run 24x7x365. According to Seagate, a PS (personal storage) drive is only designed to be on for 8 hours a day, 300 days a year. This equates to 2,400 hours a year. A ES (enterprise storage) drive