Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-30 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 10:42:00PM -0400, Alexander Varakin wrote: As for realtime encoding idea, I've been there and don't want to go back. Encoding is not all what you want to do while recording, you also want to deinterlace and apply denoising filter. Denoising and deinterlacing are very

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-30 Thread Niels Dybdahl
Output of PVR-?50 at 6-8Mb/s is as good as uncompressed. It is also a good idea to apply slight temporal filter of PVR-?50 if your singnal is noisy. Hi Alexander, Where do I find this slight temporal filter of PVR-?50 ? Best regards Niels Dybdahl

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-29 Thread Mario Limonciello
Brad Templeton wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 12:20:00AM -0400, Donavan Stanley wrote: On 4/28/05, Alexander Varakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quality of PVR-?50 hardware encoder is very poor and it requires very high bit rates for decent quality (about 6Mb/s). Software MPEG2 encoders

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-29 Thread Niels Dybdahl
I myself have been trying to properly setup transcoding properly. I believe I have some acceptable settings now to transcode my mpeg2 hauppauge based recordings into an mpeg4 type recording, but run into issues with aspect ratios. The recordings play back fine if I was to play them back in

[mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Jason McLeod
I'm a little new to encoding video. Usually I just care about the end format, not the resolution and bitrate. I leave it to the list, are there any resources out there that you use to decide your recording rates? My card is a PVR-150MCE, so it's doing hardware MPEG2 encoding. How low of

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Neil Bird
Around about 28/04/05 15:54, Jason McLeod typed ... How low of a resolution is too low? How low of a bitrate for the video is too low? Well there's synchronicity in action! I was just about to post this and a related question. I'm running my PVR-350 with fairly high (normally) res. PAL

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Scott Alfter
Neil Bird wrote: I was just about to post this and a related question. I'm running my PVR-350 with fairly high (normally) res. PAL settings, and a bitrate of ~6200 somethings. I get images of ~2.0-2.2 Gb per hour. Now, I just downloaded [bittorrent] an episode of something I missed.

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Timothy Daniel Hamer
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Scott Alfter wrote: Neil Bird wrote: I was just about to post this and a related question. I'm running my PVR-350 with fairly high (normally) res. PAL settings, and a bitrate of ~6200 somethings. I get images of ~2.0-2.2 Gb per hour. Now, I just downloaded [bittorrent]

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Jason McLeod
I found some video guys here at work, who know a few things about video encoding. They where telling me that the NTSC standard is 720x480, although cable broadcasts don't use that high, it's much closer to 480x320. I originally had my resolution for capturing set to the max, but I'll try

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Niels Dybdahl
I noticed the same thing with downloaded files vs. files captured from my pvr 150, but even when i use mythtranscode to convert them to mpeg-4, i can get downloaded AVI files that look much better and are smaller. Should i use one of the external transcoding programs instead of mythtranscode?

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Nate Thompson
On 4/28/05, Jason McLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found some video guys here at work, who know a few things about video encoding. They where telling me that the NTSC standard is 720x480, although cable broadcasts don't use that high, it's much closer to 480x320. I originally had my

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Niels Dybdahl
They where telling me that the NTSC standard is 720x480, although cable broadcasts don't use that high, it's much closer to 480x320. They probably meant 320x480 (320 pixels/line) and 480 lines. Niels Dybdahl ___ mythtv-users mailing list

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Ian Trider
They probably meant 320x480 (320 pixels/line) and 480 lines. Which is not entirely accurate.. NTSC is analog -- the number of vertical scanlines is fixed at 525, of which 486 are visible, or for convenience sake when dealing with MPEG-type encoding algorithms (which work on blocks of 16)

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Andrew Close
On 4/28/05, Ian Trider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ NTSC is analog -- the number of vertical scanlines is fixed at 525, of which 486 are visible, or for convenience sake when dealing with MPEG-type encoding algorithms (which work on blocks of 16) 480. Horizontal 'resolution' is dependant

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Scott Alfter
Timothy Daniel Hamer wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Scott Alfter wrote: Those AVIs you downloaded probably aren't using MPEG-2, but instead use some variant or another of MPEG-4. That's why they can deliver the same quality in less space. Comparing MPEG-4 to MPEG-2 is like comparing Ogg

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Andrew Close
On 4/28/05, Scott Alfter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy Daniel Hamer wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2005, Scott Alfter wrote: Those AVIs you downloaded probably aren't using MPEG-2, but instead use some variant or another of MPEG-4. That's why they can deliver the same quality in less space.

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Alexander Varakin
Quality of PVR-?50 hardware encoder is very poor and it requires very high bit rates for decent quality (about 6Mb/s). Software MPEG2 encoders are much better, in Windows world CCE and TmpGenc are very good(they can also run on Linux with wine). On linux mpeg2enc is also very good. I always

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Donavan Stanley
On 4/28/05, Alexander Varakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quality of PVR-?50 hardware encoder is very poor and it requires very high bit rates for decent quality (about 6Mb/s). Software MPEG2 encoders are much better, in Windows world CCE and TmpGenc are very good(they can also run on Linux with

Re: [mythtv-users] Suggested Encoding Rates

2005-04-28 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Apr 29, 2005 at 12:20:00AM -0400, Donavan Stanley wrote: On 4/28/05, Alexander Varakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quality of PVR-?50 hardware encoder is very poor and it requires very high bit rates for decent quality (about 6Mb/s). Software MPEG2 encoders are much better, in