[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Eric A. Hall") writes:
> Clayton Fiske wrote:
>
> > [bind question]
>
> [bind answer]
this is nanog, you probably want bind-users[-request]@isc.org.
q.net/
According to Reuters, MSNBC web site was offline for two hours Thursday
morning.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020425/wr_nm/tech_msnbc_outage_dc_1
We periodically see UUNET suddenly leak large numbers of what I can only
assume are interior routes, to quite a few peers, and then rapidly withdraw
them:
+-+--+---+--++
| time| type | prefix| mask | aspath |
+--
Has anyone noticed how the stories about insiders trading and selling
airline and insurance company stocks short just before 9.11 disappeared
real quick. Someone had plenty notice it seems.
>If true, these are not script kiddie type threats. I hate to say it, but 911
>is an example that the u
You know, "we" all my be the first to see and understand that such a attack
is in progress...attacks against critical targets can come from anywhere
with distributed computing. Even IF we detected it happening, the question
is, who would you tell, and more importantly, "do you trust YOUR
gove
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:54:44 EDT, Steve Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Gosh, oh golly-gee, do you really think that they would do something
> like that (planting a story)?
Well, officially, we've decided that we don't do disinformation:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/2002/02/dod022602.html
How many PC's and components are 'Made in China'?
In the dark ages, I worked for Williams Electronics. We made Arcade Games
*blush*. Once we found our custom chip was reverse engineered in Taiwan, and
they were shipping knockoffs six weeks after we started shipping the real
product.
If true, th
A few weeks ago while cleaning out old computer "stuff" in my basement noc,
I found my BOfH that I had printed on a 15" chain printer (with alternating
green and white bars!) back in the early 90s some time.
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Kelly J. Cooper wrote:
>> Or you can buy the books:
>>
>> ht
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Kelly J. Cooper wrote:
> Or you can buy the books:
>
> http://www.plan9.org
Yeah I have the first BOfH. That's my #1 choice
for bathroom reading, I highly recommend it!
I guess it might be cooler to have it on dotmatrix
printer paper, but the book format is compact and
n
On Apr 25, 5:34pm, blitz wrote:
> Subject: Re: UUNET instability?
*
*At 16:59 4/25/02 -0400, you wrote:
*
*>On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote:
*>
*> > >>
*> > >>"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited
*> > >>before long...
*> > >
*> > >telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu
> We're off-topic, but I'd say that cyberterrorismis far less expensive
to
> create than invasion or nuclear weapons.
>
> Deepak Jain
> AiNET
(At the risk of sounding corny)
A communications disruption could mean only one thing: invasion.
- James
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Deepak Jain wrote:
> Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively fund
> cyberterrorism?
>
> Deepak Jain
> AiNET
No harder than it is to believe that the US Govt would actively fund
[cyber]terrorism...
--
Yours,
J.A. Terranson
[EMAIL PROTECTE
> Rounding up 1 significant figure would reduce their combat effectiveness
> measurably.
>
> The threat to LA is the best available because I don't think they have a
> missle delivery vehicle capable of reaching any East Coast cities.
The Chinese had the shenzhou 2 capsule in orbit for 7 months
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 06:33:25PM -0400, Randy Bush wrote something like this:
>
> the gossip i am getting is that today is a particularly appropriate
> day to be reading the cisco is-is book
>
> randy
no default-information originate klez.virus
should remedy the situation.
-Mark
--
Toda
Rounding up 1 significant figure would reduce their combat effectiveness
measurably.
The threat to LA is the best available because I don't think they have a
missle delivery vehicle capable of reaching any East Coast cities.
We're off-topic, but I'd say that cyberterrorismis far less expensive
---
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 06:01:50PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>
>
> Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively
fund
> cyberterrorism?
The ratio of useful traffic to spam/attacks from APNIC space is already so
low as to be nearly non-existent. A little activ
> aside from the cisco is-is book...
the gossip i am getting is that today is a particularly appropriate
day to be reading the cisco is-is book
randy
I put nothing past them, of course theyre not alone, as we all must assume
by now.
Theyve threatened to nuke LA if we interfere with their plans to take
Tiawan by force, and smile and say, kill 300 million of us, do us a favor.
Kinda hard to deal with an enemy like that.
At 18:01 4/25/02 -040
aside from the cisco is-is book...
Routing TCP/IP Volume I
by Jeff Doyle
ISBN: 1578700418
or
Juniper Networks Routers: The Complete Reference
by Matt Kolon (Editor), Jeff Doyle (Editor)
ISBN: 0072194812
other, more general references:
Interconnections: Bridges, Routers, Switches, and Intern
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 06:01:50PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>
>
> Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively fund
> cyberterrorism?
The ratio of useful traffic to spam/attacks from APNIC space is already so
low as to be nearly non-existent. A little active hel
Once upon a time, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively fund
> cyberterrorism?
Why not? Our government does, although they don't call it that: they
call it Microsoft. :-)
--
Chris Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Systems and Ne
Is it really hard to believe that the Chinese government would actively fund
cyberterrorism?
Deepak Jain
AiNET
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Steve Goldstein
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:55 PM
To: Rowland, Alan D
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECT
Gosh, oh golly-gee, do you really think that they would do something
like that (planting a story)?
;-)
--Steve
At 7:16 AM -0700 4/25/02, Rowland, Alan D wrote:
>
>Someone in the CIA is looking for funding...
>
>Just my 2¢.
>
>-Al
--
At 16:59 4/25/02 -0400, you wrote:
>On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote:
>
> > >>
> > >>"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited
> > >>before long...
> > >
> > >telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
The Archive of BOFH is here:
http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard.html
btw the permissions were wrong.
they are fixed now, enjoy.
-Mark
--
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ketchup is a vegetable.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 05:00:05PM -0400, Greg Pendergrass wrote something like this:
> implementations. Any suggestions?
>
> Greg
>
Greg,
Here's one document I received from Cisco. It was useful to me.
http://gomez.charter.com/~mark/ISISintro.pdf
-Mark
--
Read this tagline
Cisco very recently published "IS-IS Network Design Solutions", ISBN
1-57870-220-8. I don't know of any other good references. It's obviously
Cisco-centric but does try to cover questions like "why do I want IS-IS
instead of [mumble] as my IGP".
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Penderg
Cisco's online documentation, though obviously tailored to their product
line, provides a great overview of most 'common' routing scenarios,
protocols and configurations.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is a good reference for IS-IS and Integrated IS-IS? I'm looking for an
> overview of how
What is a good reference for IS-IS and Integrated IS-IS? I'm looking for an
overview of how the protocol works as well as specific vendors'
implementations. Any suggestions?
Greg
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote:
> >>
> >>"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited
> >>before long...
> >
> >telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
>
> Folks, please don't try to connect to that service.
> Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
I'll see if I ca
Doh. This should have read "Your service" not "Your server".
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Deepak Jain
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 4:26 PM
To: Mathew Lodge; Art Houle; Pete Kruckenberg
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The Myth of
[stuff missing]
When applied randomly to the Internet, I suppose that means if you can dial
into a RAS and establish a PPP/IPCP session, but the RAS' connection to the
Internet is down, then the service is up :-)
[stuff missing]
I seem to remember a large internet provider's service contract r
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Lionel wrote:
> >telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666
>
> Folks, please don't try to connect to that service.
> Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
Works fine here
Are you sure you haven't got uunet between you and it? ;-)
- Forrest W. Christian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:04:42 -0400, Richard A Steenbergen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:48:11AM +1000, Lionel wrote:
>>
>> Folks, please don't try to connect to that service.
>> Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
>
>Generally something doesn't get "Slashdotte
This seems like a great time to ask a question..
Got multihoming to multiple providers?
Bri
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Chris Pace wrote:
>
> Is there a way to notify UUNET of the problem ?
> (I know they are problably aware, but it would make me feel better)
> Since I am not a UUNET custome
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 05:48:11AM +1000, Lionel wrote:
>
> Folks, please don't try to connect to that service.
> Posting it here seems to have Slashdotted it.
Generally something doesn't get "Slashdotted" unless it is fully of poorly
written dynamic code which should never have been put in pro
On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:10:28 +1000, Lionel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:02:19 -0500 (CDT), "Robert A. Hayden"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find
>>a catastrophe to blame an outtage on.
>>
>>"A butterfl
At 03:14 PM 4/25/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:03:52 PDT, Gregory Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > > >On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote:
> > > > > UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment
> in the
> > > > > northeast that occure
Clayton Fiske wrote:
> If you're referring to clients overlapping, such as:
>
> 192.168.0.0/16 sees internal for domain1, external for domain2
> 10.0.0.0/8 sees external for domain1, external for domain2
> 172.16.0.0/12 sees external for domain1, internal for domain2
>
> Then I think you
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Sean Donelan wrote:
> That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one
> provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets.
I'd heard something about IS-IS instability, and it doesn't surprise me.
On big networks, IGP stability is super-importan
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:03:52 PDT, Gregory Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > >On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote:
> > > > UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the
> > > > northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655.
>
> Thought this happe
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:02:19 -0500 (CDT), "Robert A. Hayden"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find
>a catastrophe to blame an outtage on.
>
>"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited
>before long...
> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:00:44 -0500
> From: J Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> At 02:51 PM 4/25/2002 -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
> >That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one
> >provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets.
>
> Some C&W transport was
Sometimes it feels like the support departments just scan cnn.com to find
a catastrophe to blame an outtage on.
"A butterfly in outter mongolia flapped its wings" will probably be cited
before long...
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>
> That's unusual. A train derailment usually ef
At 02:51 PM 4/25/2002 -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
>That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one
>provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets.
Some C&W transport was lost as well. They also have a master ticket open.
>On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley
That's unusual. A train derailment usually effects more than one
provider, and normally does not cause network-wide BGP resets.
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Daniel Kelley wrote:
> UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the
> northeast that occured this morning. master ti
I heard that UU.net is rolling Outlook at the core ...
-chris
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Jeff Harper wrote:
>
> Anyone think this is related the Klez virus?
>
> Jeff
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:58 AM
> > To:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 01:15:03PM -0500, Jeff Harper wrote:
>
> Anyone think this is related the Klez virus?
Was UU running Outlook on their core routers?
With Juniper I suppose it's possible... :)
--
Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras
PGP Key ID: 0x
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Clayton Fiske wrote:
> Wouldn't you automatically have to have multiple zonefiles per domain
> in order to have multiple views? With bind9, my setup is:
Not really, because you define the views inside the zonefiles, instead of
defining the sonefiles inside the view. Each zo
Anyone think this is related the Klez virus?
Jeff
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:58 AM
> To: Streiner, Justin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: UUNET instability?
>
>
>
> Here is Memphis we are seeing the same
I live in that area, and its far enough from 111 8th to not cause any
serious problems, and there's no other telco or network facilities around
there, AFAIK. Most of the fiber, etc, is run along 16th street or up/down
9th ave.
Thanks,
Matt
--
Matthew J. Zito
Systems Engineer
Register.com, In
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 12:44:59PM +0100, Avleen Vig wrote:
> Your conf file shows that it is set up as:
> Define a view
> Now allocate zonefiles to it
>
> What if you host multiple domains, and the view you want to give them
> overlap? Is it not possible to do:
> Make a zone file
> Put
Boiler explosion at 635 Avenue of the Americas:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/743536.asp?0cm=c20
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
mike harrison
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:16 PM
To: German Martinez
Cc: Streiner, Justin; [EMAIL PROTECTED
Just announced on their site:
http://www1.worldcom.com/us/tools/noc/status.xml
--
Jason Beltrame
INetU, Inc.(tm)- http://www.INetU.net
Electronic commerce - Web development - Web hosting
[E
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, mike harrison wrote:
>
>
> And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly..
> and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when
> this happens right after everyone walks out the
> door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled
> outages better?
>
> Hopefully this is no
Is there a way to notify UUNET of the problem ?
(I know they are problably aware, but it would make me feel better)
Since I am not a UUNET customer they will not even speak to me. My Customers
are screaming at me and I have to open trouble tickets with at least 5
providers.
I have to explain to m
And us as well.. it's coming back up quickly..
and I am seeing routes restored. I hate it when
this happens right after everyone walks out the
door for lunch. Can't we schedule our unscheduled
outages better?
Hopefully this is not related to the small explosion that
just occured in NYC. It
Here is Memphis we are seeing the same thing. Twice this morning we have
dropped and our BGP is freaking out.
-Original Message-
From: Streiner, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 10:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: UUNET instability?
Anyone else seei
Yes, we are peering with UUNet in too many cities a cross USA and all the
Network is a messed up, also I found some BGP session cleared by UUNet
peering routers.
Antonio J. Pena
-Original Message-
From: Streiner, Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 8:01 AM
T
We have seen the same thing at 10:10am Eastern time and now at 11:45am. In
fact, it's ongoing but we've not received any official explanation. And as
always, www.noc.uu.net reports 'all is well'.
Kevin
>> Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more
>> details? I sa
UUNET support says that the outage relates to a train derailment in the
northeast that occured this morning. master ticket no. 562655.
dan
> Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more
> details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to
> them
UUNET confirmed that they had a network-wide outage (ISIS related) around
that time which caused some bgp sessions to reset. The issue seems to be
resolved at this time. They are still isolating the problem.
Hazim
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
[ Apologies for duplicate mails ]
Dear collegues,
We are pleased to announce the release of Version 4.7.2 of
the IRRToolSet, formerly known as RAToolSet.
Changes:
- aoe is back and working, RPSL compliant
- several bugfixes in roe/RtConfig/prpath have been made
You can download this releas
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:30:27 +0900, Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> there are name server implementations (probably load balancing product)
> that responds with NXDOMAIN, when it should respond with NOERROR with
> empty reply. one example is news.bbc.co.uk
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:07:41 -0400
"Chris Pace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It was really bad this morning. I had problems with
> Bellsouth, AT&T and
> Qwest's connection to UUNET.
> Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I
> can get alerts and
> updates about what is going on
Justin,
We saw a big traffic drop from them exactly at the same time that you saw.
We are contacting them to get more details. In fact, our BGP session with
them reseted.
German
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
>
> Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any m
I tried to get a couple of messages to the list earlier, but I guess the
problems stop it.
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:07:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: James S. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Problems with UUNet backbone
Maybe this is unrel
> Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and
> updates about what is going on with UUNET ?
http://quotes.nasdaq.com/Quote.dll?mode=stock&symbol=wcom&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&symbol=&quick.x=0&quick.y=0
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Chris Pace wrote:
>
> It was really bad this morning. I had problems with Bellsouth, AT&T and
> Qwest's connection to UUNET.
> Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and
> updates about what is going on with UUNET ?
There's www.noc.uu.net, but
> Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more
> details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to
> them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about
> network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any
> m
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Streiner, Justin wrote:
> Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more
> details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to
> them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about
I saw the same thing on our U
Our Manhattan, KS POP had some trouble around 9:00am CST
ago but I can't find any evidence. BGP sessions haven't
been touched, no downed interfaces, etc... We have one
T1 to UUNet at that location.
blake
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behal
It was really bad this morning. I had problems with Bellsouth, AT&T and
Qwest's connection to UUNET.
Does anyone know if there is a web site or newsgroup I can get alerts and
updates about what is going on with UUNET ?
- Original Message -
From: "Streiner, Justin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Anyone else seeing routing instability through UUNET or have any more
details? I saw a significant drop in my inbound and outbound traffic to
them around 10:00AM EDT. UUNET has a prompt on their phone menus about
network instability, but didn't elaborate. Their NOC doesn't have any
more detail
>> do you know:
>> - name of particular implementation which have/had this bug?
>"BBC Intelligent Load Balancing DNS Server"
i heard that it was based on lbnamed 1.2. i have confirmed that
lbnamed 1.2 distribution contains buggy sample config file
(perl5/lbname
Someone in the CIA is looking for funding...
Just my 2¢.
-Al
-Original Message-
From: Steve Goldstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 5:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CIA Warns of Chinese Plans for Cyber-Attacks on U.S.
I have no idea how real the imp
I have no idea how real the implied threat may be. Just passing this
along. --SG
--
Defense: Analysts fear government and private efforts to sabotage federal
Interne
If you include leap years in the calculation, ie, 525,960 min/yr
then yes, availability of 99.999 comes out to 5 min of downtime.
The techniques the telcos follow to achieve 5 9s are amusing but here's
a few comments. If I had the level of availability of my home
phone on my frame/atm networks,
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Felicia Kaye wrote:
> Bind9 does this wonderfully. =)
Cool :)
> Here's some extracts from my named.conf, as an example. Just remember, if
> you have any zones in a view, then you must also add that zone to all the
> other views, otherwise you'll end up not serving those zo
Once upon a time, blitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >But applicants registering for the programme online discovered their
> >banking and company details were going onto an open web page. When one
> >irate silicon.com reader called the Cisco helpdesk, he was informed
> >that the company was aware
> >But applicants registering for the programme online discovered their
> >banking and company details were going onto an open web page. When one
Makes it sound like Cisco were publishing the private details, so they
forgot an SSL cert. big deal, its not like snooping unencrypted details on
ISP
Cute..like they didn't know any better, sheesh!
>http://www.silicon.com/public/door?6004REQEVENT=&REQINT1=52897&REQSTR1=silicon.com
>
>Wednesday 24th April 2002
>
>Cisco has been forced to close an online registration form after
>neglecting to secure the web page.
>
>The page was part of a ma
But THAT was when phones had cranks on the side. ;)
5 nines is a myth, conjured up by sales cretins to have something to
sell...If I remember, 5 nines translates to 6 minutes outage a YEAR..?
(Correct me if I'm wrong here)
It's a marketing ploy for liar sales people and CEO's, it has absolutely
Hey Chris ;)
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> I believe this is in the context of:
> 'hax0r _bob (for instance) has a PTR for his ip which says
> "I.love.humble.net" when machines a->y query for the PTR, BUT when machine
> z queries it returns "www.cert.org"'
Hmmm, yes and no
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