Just a FYI folksfrom one of the hacker lists I'm on...
Speaking of taking down the internet
Extra points for only needing to affect one device and having that device
successfully spread the payload to every other device as a part of it's
routine network communications. Think you
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 02:00, Grant A. Kirkwood wrote:
At 09:54 PM 7/1/2002 -0400, Phil Rosenthal wrote:
My math shows ~500bps per US citizen:
Assuming 150,000,000,000 bits and 280,000,000 citizens.
This also assumes US citizens don't sleep.
and that non-US citizens never send traffic
Folks, is there still only a certain block of allowed addresses
that send mail from AOL i.e. block smtp from any any and then allow
1.2.3.0/24 etc?
Thanks,
-M
Regards,
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Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boston, MA http://www.fugawi.net
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Daniska Tomas wrote:
what the second line is for?
if i block all first then why care about rest (which equals to none in such case) :)
Obviously, I hope, the business realities of playing the spam game
dictate that I can only control the spam, not stop it.
I was hoping
The original comment I made was regarding the amount of traffic people suggest
they have on their networks.
I know UU, L3, Sprint, Verio etc will carry many gigabits but it was concerning
the average list member rather than the exceptional major player...
Answers so far vary..
Steve
On 2 Jul
http://www.nocpeople.org/ebone/broadcast2.html
From what I can see personally, all BGP sessions with Ebone at major
peering points in Europe went down in the last two hours, and all their
customer interfaces appear to be shut (or in the process of being shut
down). SDH and DWDM customer circuits are also being torn down as we
speak.
the shutdown is in process
see the webcam or #ebone...
--
Tomas Daniska
systems engineer
Tronet Computer Networks
Plynarenska 5, 829 75 Bratislava, Slovakia
tel: +421 2 58224111, fax: +421 2 58224199
A transistor protected by a fast-acting fuse will protect the fuse by blowing first.
NYIIX 1/4 rack + 100M switch connection - $1K/mth
fiber cx for Gig-E to high-bandwidth peers: $0/mth
small GSR12000 - $20K from the local bankruptcy trustee
OC192 from Manhattan to Vienna, VA: $10K/mth
SIX is also quite inexpensive.
I've been told Equinix can be talked down from
NYIIX 1/4 rack + 100M switch connection - $1K/mth
fiber cx for Gig-E to high-bandwidth peers: $0/mth
small GSR12000 - $20K from the local bankruptcy trustee
OC192 from Manhattan to Vienna, VA: $10K/mth
SIX is also quite inexpensive.
I've been told Equinix can be talked down from ~$3K/mth
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Martin Hannigan wrote:
I was hoping someone was going to say that AOL already does this
themselves. In the 'old' days, there was a list of what to allow
under .ipt.aol.com. It's pretty easy for them to do it, and I'm
I think this is putting the cart before the horse.
We were getting upgraded bandwidth capabilities,
fiber put in the ground, etc from traditional Telcos
prior to the rise of the Internet; they were finding cheaper
ways to run phone service around.
This is totally incorrect. Ask anyone
If your full cost of peering with UUNET (including things such as
depreciation) comes to $400 per mbit/sec and via a promisig local ISP you
can get transit to UUNET at $200 per mbit/sec, your costs will decrease.
Just because the IP is free with peering does not mean that it costs $0 to
We are looking into using a full or partial mesh MPLS overlay for traffic
characterization on our network and need a tool to model utilization and
simulate failures. At first we won't be doing any real TE.
Does anyone know of any open source tools (maybe similar to Wandl) that
have this
Richard,
I know a few news server admins who might disagree with you. Or at least it
seems that way at times. ;)
I typically have a 251Kbps (broadband) stream from www.thebasement.com.au
running in the background when on line. The stream is coming out of
Australia (don't think it's been
We are looking into using a full or partial mesh MPLS overlay for traffic
characterization on our network and need a tool to model utilization and
simulate failures. At first we won't be doing any real TE.
The MPLS network simulator perhaps? http://flower.ce.cnu.ac.kr/~fog1/mns/
There's
I typically have a 251Kbps (broadband) stream from www.thebasement.com.au
Speaking of streaming, I once saw this mentioned here, does anyone have the
current URL for the 300K streak for BBC news?
Geo.
On Mon, 2002-07-01 at 17:53, Paul Vixie wrote:
What is the connection between unregulated peering and the financial
difficulties we have seen?
The problems have been caused by:
- Bad business models
- Greed
- Corporate officers who have shirked their fudiciary
hate to break up the peering thread but i'm wondering if anyone has
experience/knowledge of Empirix tools? i worked with them back when they
were known as midnight networks but they focused on protocol conformance
testing at the time (mid-90s). they're corporate history has no mention
of
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 15:58, Geo. wrote:
I typically have a 251Kbps (broadband) stream from www.thebasement.com.au
Speaking of streaming, I once saw this mentioned here, does anyone have the
current URL for the 300K streak for BBC news?
This crossed my desk, thought someone might find it
relevant.. (I am not sure who wrote it... ;)
router conf t
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REMAINING U.S. CEOs MAKE A BREAK FOR IT
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:28:04 -0600
REMAINING U.S. CEOs MAKE A BREAK FOR IT
Band of Roving Chief Executives Spotted Miles from
On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 16:13:46 CDT, Richard Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This crossed my desk, thought someone might find it
relevant.. (I am not sure who wrote it... ;)
router conf t
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REMAINING U.S. CEOs MAKE A BREAK FOR IT
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:28:04 -0600
Credit where it's
Perhaps we need NANOG-OldFarts mailing list?
I think this is putting the cart before the horse.
We were getting upgraded bandwidth capabilities,
fiber put in the ground, etc from traditional Telcos
prior to the rise of the Internet; they were finding cheaper
ways to run phone service
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