Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread German Martinez
> A handful of incumbent telcos of AP region countries as well as few others > operate multigigabit IP networks across the Pacific. I don't think they'd > agree with your statement. > Dorian is absolutely right here. There are even some incumbent telcos (not only from AP) with capacity between

Re: any known users of NetRange 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

2002-09-26 Thread Joe
Depending on the content of the headers, this address can be "injected" into the flow of the email. This is very easy to do. The important thing to look at regarding the headers from such an email are the last few transactions I would suspect that the first few lines read IPs that are familiar

Re: any known users of NetRange 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

2002-09-26 Thread E.B. Dreger
TR> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:31:00 -0700 TR> From: Tony Rall TR> Perhaps you missed the point where the original problem was TR> with an email address: Indeed I did. Note to self: Parse properly before posting to NANOG. [Hopefully] on-topic response to OP after rereading: No, there is no

Re: any known users of NetRange 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

2002-09-26 Thread Tony Rall
On Friday, 2002-09-27 at 03:14 GMT, "E.B. Dreger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's difficult for TCP to work when there's no return path, > unless one has highly-predictable ISNs. Chances are it's > "inside" the network. Perhaps you missed the point where the original problem was with an emai

Re: any known users of NetRange 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

2002-09-26 Thread E.B. Dreger
TR> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 17:57:52 -0700 TR> From: Tony Rall TR> This mail is likely from a spammer or (even more likely) from TR> a misconfigured sender behind a NAT gateway. It's difficult for TCP to work when there's no return path, unless one has highly-predictable ISNs. Chances are it's

Re: any known users of NetRange 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

2002-09-26 Thread Tony Rall
On Thursday, 2002-09-26 at 20:42 AST, hostmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have this very odd email address found with one of our employees > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Here's my questions: > > - Given that 1918 deals with allocation issues for "private Internets", is > there a recordin

any known users of NetRange 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255

2002-09-26 Thread hostmaster
Hello friends, I have this very odd email address found with one of our employees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A.f.a.i.k. 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 is: NetRange: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 CIDR: 172.16.0.0/12 NetName:IANA-BBLK-RESERVED NetHandle: NET-172-16-0-0-1 Parent: NET-17

RE: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread James Spenceley
|Given the enormous scope of the question, the US west coast almost |sounds like an effective common denominator *regardless* of the |state of interconnection within the region, or the history of |US-centric traffic demand and under-sea cable routes. PAIX alone can supply 10-15k of AP routes,

MPLS as a protection mechanism

2002-09-26 Thread Marian Stasney
I read the thread on NANOG about MPLS in Metro Networks and the replies danced around this issue but didn't address it directly. I'd like to know if anyone is/is considering using MPLS as a Layer 1 or Layer 2 protection mechanism, whether alone or in combination with other protection mechanisms.

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 04:52:33PM -0400, ren wrote: > > At 01:37 PM 9/26/2002 -0700, Lane Patterson wrote: > >I would confirm GM's assertion. Also, if you have the luxury of caring > >more about a smaller set of large-capacity Tier1 private peers, there is > >some presence of AsiaPac providers

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread ren
At 01:37 PM 9/26/2002 -0700, Lane Patterson wrote: >I would confirm GM's assertion. Also, if you have the luxury of caring >more about a smaller set of large-capacity Tier1 private peers, there is >some presence of AsiaPac providers doing this at Equinix SJ. Actually Equinix-Los Angeles has mor

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread Lane Patterson
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:45:53AM -0400, German Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > |I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in > > > |a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have > > > |ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm

Re: layer 3 switch debate

2002-09-26 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:38:38AM -0700, ip dude wrote: > > Does this rule of thumb still apply considering the modern layer 3 > switches available? If not, why? What makes a layer 3 switch > sub-standard to a pure router? Any quantitative analysis you could > provide would be greatly appreciat

RE: False-alarm generator

2002-09-26 Thread Todd, John
As it turns out, the NCS has an RFI out on the street looking for input of just this sort. See it at . We would love to hear from you all! JW

RE: UUnet routing "problem"

2002-09-26 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
If the owner of the ip address would like to contact the UUNET NOC in EU and ask for: Mr. Beechey he can connect you with the person attempting to contact you about this. --Chris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ### ## UUNET Technologies, Inc.

DDoS/Backbone Security presentations

2002-09-26 Thread Nicolas FISCHBACH
Hi, If it's of any interest, the slides from my SwiNOG-5 presentation on DDoS (attacks, detection, protection, etc) are available: http://www.securite.org/presentations/ddos/ Some "older" slides from BH US'02 on "IP Backbone Security" are also available (PPT'97 and PDF): http://www.securite.org

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread Michael C. Wu
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 02:43:19PM -0400, Dorian Kim scribbled: | On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 01:30:42PM -0500, keichii wrote: | > Above.net and AT&T are your best bets for operations based in the Americas. | > Above has a .jp IX/colo that is almost "the" best connected place in AP. | > ATT and Above

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread Dorian Kim
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 01:30:42PM -0500, keichii wrote: > > From: "Neil J. McRae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in > > a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have > > ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue tha

layer 3 switch debate

2002-09-26 Thread ip dude
IP Community: When designing an all IP network requiring mostly Ethernet interfaces, the logical conclusion is to specify layer 3 switches (instead of routers). The cost per port and functionality requirements make a layer 3 switch the perfect choice. However, the rule of thumb in the IP comm

Re: Sprint (1239) blackhole ? Or bogus /32 route ?

2002-09-26 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 02:27 PM 26/09/2002 -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: >Yep, you're right. Looks like they might blackholing the /32 with a null >route on their network somewhere. To mitigate the impact, I am sending 199.212.134.0/24 as a more specific route through my other transit provider (15290) who does not

Re: False-alarm generator

2002-09-26 Thread batz
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Sean Donelan wrote: :How does the government know when the Internet is down? They pay :contractors lots of money to put colored maps on the wall. Back to a previous thread about this, "down" is relative to the importance of the resource. If something was affecting the Inte

RE: UUnet routing "problem"

2002-09-26 Thread Michael Hallgren
.ro -- try their London or Amsterdam guys. In an earlier life -- Teleglobe -- I found them quite responsive (at least EU daytime :). Cheers mh -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de Sorin Constantinescu Envoye : jeudi 26 septembre 2002 20:21

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread keichii
From: "Neil J. McRae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in > a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have > ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm > trying to resolve, so I was wondering if there was a locatio

Re: Sprint (1239) blackhole ? Or bogus /32 route ?

2002-09-26 Thread Vinny Abello
Yep, you're right. Looks like they might blackholing the /32 with a null route on their network somewhere. At 01:35 PM 9/26/2002 -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: >At 01:31 PM 26/09/2002 -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: >>Looks like something isn't right... I see the announcement from Sprint >>with an AS p

Re: UUnet routing "problem"

2002-09-26 Thread Sorin Constantinescu
Yes, we did. The e-mail was addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] We also called at 1-800-900-0241 option 2 3 1. All we got was some ticket numbers. Bye, On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, dies wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:06:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: dies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Sori

Re: UUnet routing "problem"

2002-09-26 Thread dies
Have you contacted 701? On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Sorin CONSTANTINESCU wrote: > > > Hi, > > This morning we've discovered that one of our IP's was routed somewhere > towards an ALTER.NET customer. > > All the "experiments" i'm going to show you are done from > route-server.exodus.net. > > a show

UUnet routing "problem"

2002-09-26 Thread Sorin CONSTANTINESCU
Hi, This morning we've discovered that one of our IP's was routed somewhere towards an ALTER.NET customer. All the "experiments" i'm going to show you are done from route-server.exodus.net. a show ip bgp 193.231.236.41 show that the originator of the IP Block from where 193.231.236.41 belongs

Re: Sprint (1239) blackhole ? Or bogus /32 route ?

2002-09-26 Thread Mike Tancsa
Thanks to all who have responding with information from their network vantage point. It does indeed seem to be an IGP or blackholing issue inside of Sprint. In the interim I made an advertising change to hopefully minimize the impact until I hear from someone at Sprint as to what the issue

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread Joe Abley
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 08:36:02AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: > > sadly the best spot to interconnect is not in the AP region, its in Palo > > Alto. > > Is this really still true? I would not be surprised to find that it is. Asia Pacific is an enormous region with lots of inconvenient ocean al

Re: Sprint (1239) blackhole ? Or bogus /32 route ?

2002-09-26 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 01:31 PM 26/09/2002 -0400, Vinny Abello wrote: >Looks like something isn't right... I see the announcement from Sprint >with an AS path of 1239 852 11647, but it never gets past one of the >routers on Sprint's network. I have no problem going through Cable and >Wireless: Yes, and the stran

Re: Sprint (1239) blackhole ? Or bogus /32 route ?

2002-09-26 Thread Vinny Abello
Here's what I see: BGP routing table entry for 199.212.134.0/24, version 5658446 Paths: (3 available, best #2, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to peer-groups: tn-core 18984 3561 852 11647 216.182.0.33 (metric 2965760) from 216.182.0.33 (216.182.0.33) Origin IGP

Sprint (1239) blackhole ? Or bogus /32 route ?

2002-09-26 Thread Mike Tancsa
Hi, I am trying to figure out if either sprint (as1239) has blackholed a single IP address in my network or something strange is up. If anyone has transit connectivity to AS1239, can you tell me if Sprint is sending 199.212.134.9/32 as a prefix ?? e.g. from as1239's website looking g

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread German Martinez
> > |I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in > > |a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have > > |ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm > > |trying to resolve, so I was wondering if there was a location/IXP > > |in the AP region th

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread David Conrad
On 9/26/02 2:28 AM, "James Spenceley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > |I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in > |a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have > |ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm > |trying to resolve, so I was wonde

False-alarm generator

2002-09-26 Thread Sean Donelan
How does the government know when the public telephone network is down? They call AT&T. How does the government know when the Internet is down? They pay contractors lots of money to put colored maps on the wall. http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2002/0923/web-ncs-09-26-02.asp In other words, muc

Re: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread David Luyer
> |I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in > |a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have > |ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm > |trying to resolve, so I was wondering if there was a location/IXP > |in the AP region that would

RE: AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread James Spenceley
|I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in |a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have |ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm |trying to resolve, so I was wondering if there was a location/IXP |in the AP region that would enable me

AP IX locations

2002-09-26 Thread Neil J. McRae
I'm looking to improve my connectivity into the AP region, in a cost effective [i.e. for as little as possible :-)]. I have ruled out buying transit as it doesn't help the issue that I'm trying to resolve, so I was wondering if there was a location/IXP in the AP region that would enable me to in