Re: Streaming dead again.

2003-02-11 Thread bdragon
How many folks are watching the multicast stream vs the unicast stream? Those watching the multicast stream really won't notice issues due to number of viewers. Perhaps the continuing degradation of the unicast stream is a bit of social engineering to get folks to move to multicast? If so, good f

Re: Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:02:34PM -0700, Tony Rall wrote: > > On Tuesday, 2003-02-11 at 13:42 CST, "Matthew S. Hallacy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0600, John Kristoff wrote: > > > In general, MAC OUI designations may indicate a particular AP. IP > > >

OT: Re: Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread Len Rose
Sorry to waste more bandwidth on this, but there is a very good list at: http://fingerprint.unbolted.net/view.php which also includes the adapter information. Len On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 02:28:01PM -0600, John Kristoff wrote: [snip] > Actually, the info was to meant to provide operators with

Re: Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:02:34PM -0700, Tony Rall wrote: > It sounds like John is referring to using a network IDS system, maybe one > per subnet, to try to infer from the wired (maybe) network traffic that an > unwanted AP is connected to your wired network. Given that you may want Actuall

Re: Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread Tony Rall
On Tuesday, 2003-02-11 at 13:42 CST, "Matthew S. Hallacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0600, John Kristoff wrote: > > In general, MAC OUI designations may indicate a particular AP. IP > > multicast group participation may also be used by some APs. Some > > APs

Re: Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread Matthew S. Hallacy
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 11:27:28AM -0600, John Kristoff wrote: > > Apologies if this ends up on the list multiple times. I seem to > have trouble getting this posted in a timely fashion. > > In general, MAC OUI designations may indicate a particular AP. IP > multicast group participation may a

Re: Streaming: Where are the Slides?

2003-02-11 Thread Joe Abley
On Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003, at 13:42 Canada/Eastern, Kevin Oberman wrote: The slides are (almost) all available at the start of each talk in PDF. Go to http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/agenda.html. Select a talk that is about to begin (or has begun) and a pointer to the slides is at the end of the a

Re: Streaming dead again.

2003-02-11 Thread German Martinez
Eric, -- "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." --Albert Einstein (1879-1955) On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Eric Germann wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:51:06 -0500 > From: Eric Germann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Streaming: Where are the Slides?

2003-02-11 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:28:19 -0800 (PST) > From: PJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I was curious if it was possible to ask the excellent > videographers at the NANOG conference to re-enable the > slides over the Real Audio videostream. The slides > were visible yest

Streaming: Where are the Slides?

2003-02-11 Thread PJ
I was curious if it was possible to ask the excellent videographers at the NANOG conference to re-enable the slides over the Real Audio videostream. The slides were visible yesterday, but today they are not. Much of what the speakers say refer to the slides. More importantly it's much more us

Re: Streaming dead again.

2003-02-11 Thread Daniel Senie
At 11:51 AM 2/11/2003, Eric Germann wrote: Dying at merit.demarc.cogentco.com with 3561ms figures in traceroute. How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are getting crushed. Raises hand

Re: Lawful Interception in the world...

2003-02-11 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Pascal Gloor wrote: > I'm trying to collect some informations on Lawfull Interception over the > world... > Does any country in the world require such things ? It is always best to consult a lawyer suitably licensed to give legal advice in the jurisdiction of interest. Lawye

Re: Lawful Interception in the world...

2003-02-11 Thread Nicolas FISCHBACH
Pascal Gloor wrote: I'm trying to collect some informations on Lawfull Interception over the world... Does any country in the world require such things ? Have a look at Jaya Baloo's talk from Hivercon and 19C3 (Lawful Interception of IP Traffic in the European Context): http://www.hivercon.com/

Re: Streaming dead again.

2003-02-11 Thread Matt Fearnow
I'm not sure whom to contact, but if the person responsible for the webcasts want's to contact me off list, I can offer up some idea's. (I've got some experience pushing webcast's to 2000+) Matt On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:51:06 -0500 "Eric Germann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dying at merit.dema

Re: Streaming dead again.

2003-02-11 Thread Scott Call
> > How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium > service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are > getting crushed. > Methinkg Akamai might be a candidate to offer this service to nanog in the future perhaps? :) Avi? FWIW the stream i

Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread John Kristoff
Apologies if this ends up on the list multiple times. I seem to have trouble getting this posted in a timely fashion. In general, MAC OUI designations may indicate a particular AP. IP multicast group participation may also be used by some APs. Some APs have a few unique ports open. Lastly, APs

Re: Spam Cost Resources [ trustworthy ]

2003-02-11 Thread William Warren
It seems that it would be in the isp's interests then to not get itself into those restrictive contracts. If the customer does not like it they can go elsewhere. Mike Damm wrote: Do these figures take into account the number of calls you will get from sales when they realize you lost the prof

Streaming dead again.

2003-02-11 Thread Eric Germann
Dying at merit.demarc.cogentco.com with 3561ms figures in traceroute. How many would pay some $$$ for this to be moved in the future to a premium service provided by someone like RealMedia. Methinks the merit servers are getting crushed. I'd pony up some $$$ to virtually attend it if it were rel

RE: Spam Cost Resources [ trustworthy ]

2003-02-11 Thread Mike Damm
Do these figures take into account the number of calls you will get from sales when they realize you lost the profit equivalent of 2 to 3 large business customers? Or the legal fees incurred by shutting the customer off? Most spammers work terms into their contracts whereas if it is not fulfille

re: BST - BGP Scalable Transport

2003-02-11 Thread Cengiz Alaettinoglu
Hi Ron, On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 11:24, Ron da Silva wrote: > Van/Cengiz/Kedar, > > Questions that missed the cutoff at the end of your preso: > > Most operators have some per-peer inbound policies. Since the > next hop adjacency may move around due to chaning primaries, > where do you configure

Re: Lawful Interception in the world...

2003-02-11 Thread Neil J. McRae
> I'm trying to collect some informations on Lawfull Interception over the > world... > Does any country in the world require such things ? > > > LOGS (6 months archive required) > - mail header logs (all mails, in, out, relay) > - pop3/imap/webmail access logs (all accounts) > - dhc

Re: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-11 Thread Eric Gauthier
> Indeed. I've unfortunately had many instances where a company runs 5+ VoIP > calls -- in addition to data traffic -- over a 64k circuit with the line > staying at 95-100% capacity 24x7. It's not easy, but it's doable. We're not running VoIP, but we did run an OC3 at 100% 24x7 for 6 months and

Re: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-11 Thread John Todd
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Aditya wrote: FWIW, I purchased a Cisco ATA-186 and then a 7960 on eBay (after trying out MS Messenger and finding it lacking) and they just work. I also have used the same units to get a PSTN phone number routed over IP using www.iconnecthere.com -- and you can make it

Re: VOIP on the net from your PDA?

2003-02-11 Thread Bill Woodcock
> If any of you have the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 (or the C700 -- hi Avi!), have > you tried doing VOIP over Wi-Fi and the net using tkcPhone > http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcphone/ or any other VOIP software? In so far as I can tell from the documentation, the 5500 has a mono-audi

Re: TELEHOUSE America & Internet Software Consortium Develop DNS F-root Server in New York & Los Angeles

2003-02-11 Thread Joe Abley
On Tuesday, Feb 11, 2003, at 07:50 Canada/Eastern, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Charles Sprickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: Deal Enables ISC to Mirror DNS Root Server in Additional U.S. Locations Let's hope Telehouse put them on the "good" generator.

Re: Lawful Interception in the world...

2003-02-11 Thread David Luyer
Pascal Gloor wrote: > Does any country in the world require such things ? To put a small operational comment here [this is NANOG isn't it?], customers with Slammer worm -really- blow out internal NetFlow between themselves and the nearest filter blocking them. We had a lot of 56k modem customers

Lawful Interception in the world...

2003-02-11 Thread Pascal Gloor
I'm trying to collect some informations on Lawfull Interception over the world... Does any country in the world require such things ? LOGS (6 months archive required) - mail header logs (all mails, in, out, relay) - pop3/imap/webmail access logs (all accounts) - dhcp/dial/adsl/gprs/w

Re: TELEHOUSE America & Internet Software Consortium Develop DNS F-root Server in New York & Los Angeles

2003-02-11 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Charles Sprickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > > > Deal Enables ISC to Mirror DNS Root Server in Additional U.S. Locations > > Let's hope Telehouse put them on the "good" generator. "N+1" is no fun if > the "+1" can't be routed to the 5th floor wh

VOIP on the net from your PDA?

2003-02-11 Thread Michael . Dillon
If any of you have the Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 (or the C700 -- hi Avi!), have you tried doing VOIP over Wi-Fi and the net using tkcPhone http://www.thekompany.com/embedded/tkcphone/ or any other VOIP software? What kind of quality do you get with this? If this type of PDA phone application really

Re: VoIP QOS best practices

2003-02-11 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Aditya wrote: > FWIW, I purchased a Cisco ATA-186 and then a 7960 on eBay (after > trying out MS Messenger and finding it lacking) and they just work. I > also have used the same units to get a PSTN phone number routed over > IP using www.iconnecthere.com -- and you can make

Re: TELEHOUSE America & Internet Software Consortium Develop DNSF-root Server in New York & Los Angeles

2003-02-11 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: > > Deal Enables ISC to Mirror DNS Root Server in Additional U.S. Locations Let's hope Telehouse put them on the "good" generator. "N+1" is no fun if the "+1" can't be routed to the 5th floor when "N" chokes up. > http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030210/102340_1.h