RE: Co-lo best practices on IP allocations

2003-03-19 Thread McBurnett, Jim
One more thought: If the company is a SPAM or other less than popular type, I would keep a watch on SPAM-L and spamhaus.org Look for you IP block.. Some networks flat out put IP Access lists to block ranges for SPAM/.. J >-Original Message- >From: Daniel Abbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

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2003-03-19 Thread German Martinez
Anybody here seeing problems with AS7018 ? Thanks German -- "The man who fights for his ideals is the man who is alive." --CERVANTES author of DON QUIJOTE

69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread Rick Ernst
We were just allocated a /17 out of 69/8. With all off the recent traffic on 69/8 reachability problems, I asked ARIN if the allocation could come from a different block. Their answer was basically that 69/8 (only) is where they are allocating from and that "from reading NANOG, it appears that

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2003-03-19 Thread Matt Ryan
lol - I promise in future to read to the bottom of messages. In fact if I didn't top post I would have noticed, but that's a different can of worms 8-) Matt. -Original Message- From: Petri Helenius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2003 17:52 To: Matt Ryan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EM

Re: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 09:42:46AM -0800, Rick Ernst wrote: > We were just allocated a /17 out of 69/8. With all off the recent traffic on > 69/8 reachability problems, I asked ARIN if the allocation could come from a > different block. > > Their answer was basically that 69/8 (only) is where th

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2003-03-19 Thread Charles E. Youse
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, German Martinez wrote: > > Anybody here seeing problems with AS7018 ? > I peer with AT&T's hosting AS, AS4264, which uses AS7018 for all of its transit- not seeing any issues from here. What've you got going on? C.

Re: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread jlewis
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Rick Ernst wrote: > Their answer was basically that 69/8 (only) is where they are allocating from > and that "from reading NANOG, it appears that much of the problem has been > resolved." I wonder what they based that ASSumption on? The thread just sort of died...and now yo

Re: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread Scott Granados
I've definitely noticed the steady decline in complaints in reachability. I think though at some point it will be resolved, after all all the other blocks got squared away it seems, or is that an incorrect assumption? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rick Ernst" <[EMA

Re: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread jlewis
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > I've definitely noticed the steady decline in complaints in reachability. I > think though at some point it will be resolved, after all all the other > blocks got squared away it seems, or is that an incorrect assumption? I'd bet they're not all reso

Draft client notice for 69/8 problems

2003-03-19 Thread Matt Martini
Nanog: Below is a draft of a letter that we will be sending to clients who experience 69.0.0.0/8 connectivity problems. I am making it available to help those ISPs that are confronted by clients with connectivity issues due to assigning them 69.0.0.0/8 addresses. It can be adapted to suit an ISP'

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2003-03-19 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, German Martinez wrote: > Anybody here seeing problems with AS7018 ? Folks have been reporting various weird problems with AS7018 for the last 2-3 weeks. It seems to affect some types of packets, but not other types of packets (i.e. you can ping or get some web pages, but not

Re: scope of the 69/8 problem

2003-03-19 Thread bdragon
This discussion falls into a pattern we've seen before: 1) Operators doing the right thing experience a problem created by operators doing the wrong thing. 2) It is not possible to isolate the pain to only the operators doing the wrong thing. 3) The only way to solve the problem is to raise the l

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2003-03-19 Thread brett watson
On Wednesday, Mar 19, 2003, at 12:28 America/Phoenix, Sean Donelan wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, German Martinez wrote: Anybody here seeing problems with AS7018 ? ... ... If you report it to AT&T, they seem to get it fixed; but then the problems re-appear a few days later. I'm guessing that packe

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2003-03-19 Thread Truman, Michelle, SALES
If someone can identify what you are actually seeing, I'll check into it. If you are experiencing drops or slow traces, only through the core, there is an issue with excessive de-prioritization of ICMP control message with a particular router type (vendcor) in the core. End to end data flow has no

Re: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > I'd bet they're not all resolved...just mostly to the point that nobody > cares. Does anyone have a traceroute web page from another (not 69/8) > block that recently went from reserved to RIR allocated? I'd be > intere

Re: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread jlewis
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > I'm wondering if there's something special about 69/8... I can't recall > this sort of discussion for 61/8 through 68/8, at least after CIDR in the > former Class A space was initially validated. For a very interesting comparison, do groups.google.co

Re: Co-lo best practices on IP allocations

2003-03-19 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Andy Dills wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Daniel Abbey wrote: > > > > > Are there any suggestions/ideas on best practices when it comes to co-lo > > allocation of addresses to its customers? Is there any site that may have > > some pointers? The dilemma is whether to charg

NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread Jeff Wasilko
http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/march/m031603e.htm If the nation escalates to "red alert," which is the highest in the color-coded readiness against terror, you will be assumed by authorities to be the enemy if you so much as venture outside your home, the state's anti-terror czar says. ..

RE: 69/8 revisited

2003-03-19 Thread McBurnett, Jim
look at the location too... 61/8 is APNIC and 69 ARIN.. J >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 5:02 PM >To: Stephen Sprunk >Cc: Scott Granados; Rick Ernst; North American Noise and Off-topic >Gripes >Subject: Re: 69/8 rev

Re: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/march/m031603e.htm > > If the nation escalates to "red alert," which is the highest in > the color-coded readiness against terror, you will be assumed by > authorities to be the enemy if you so much as venture outs

Re: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread ed
> be out. No different than if you had a state of emergency with a > snowstorm." > > > Except that in a snow storm, I can go out if I want to, and not face criminal > liability. Are they planning to at least go through the farce of declaring > martial law first? Are you kidding me? Of course no

Re: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread Jack Bates
Deepak Jain wrote: > > Seems like a pretty steep step between "Orange" and "Red". > > Are other states taking this position? > I hope Oklahoma doesn't (highly doubtful). I'd be ordered to the CO and forced to stay there and make sure the network kept running. no transportation != no work. -- -Jac

Re: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread Vadim Antonov
There's only thing worse than government full of idiots: government full of scared idiots. --vadim On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, J.A. Terranson wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2003, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > > > http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/march/m031603e.htm > > > > If the nation escalates to "red

Re: Your message to ""

2003-03-19 Thread Jack Bates
Hmmm. Would have thought turning off a nanog subscription would be considered on the list of things to do when closing an email account. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your message to the National Science Foundation is being returned to > you because the address (sgoldste) is no longer valid. A copy

Re: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread ed
> There's only thing worse than government full of idiots: government > full of scared idiots. Depends on who they are afraid of. If they fear the people, perfect and all the better. If they fear $random_third_party at the cost of the people, very bad. -ed - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Initial network impacts post-US attack 3/19/03

2003-03-19 Thread Sean Donelan
Some major new web sites such as CNN.COM, MSNBC.COM, etc have dropped most advertisements from their main web pages. CNN.COM has switched to its "breaking news" format with a truncated main page. I have not had any difficulty reaching any major US news web site. Matrix and Keynote public graphs

Re: Initial network impacts post-US attack 3/19/03

2003-03-19 Thread Stretch
I've noticed a small upswing in traffic over the last hour or two, and not to the usual "midnight browsing frenzy" locations. CNN, Yahoo, MSN, etc., all seem to be responding as usual (CNN had more latency at noon. Go figure.) As for sites in Iraq... I feel for the poor tech who pulled "cable ra

Re: Initial network impacts post-US attack 3/19/03

2003-03-19 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 12:03:13AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: > > However, tonight I am not able to reach the few Iraq servers I know > about. The servers were reachable on Monday, but I wasn't keeping > constant track of those servers. So I don't know when I could no longer > reach them. This

RE: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread Deepak Jain
> > http://www.southjerseynews.com/issues/march/m031603e.htm > > > > If the nation escalates to "red alert," which is the highest in > > the color-coded readiness against terror, you will be assumed by > > authorities to be the enemy if you so much as venture outside > > your home, the state's an

RE: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread ed
> Seems like a pretty steep step between "Orange" and "Red". > > Are other states taking this position? As an amateur radio op in the bay area, I've been involved with local OES, specifically in the SF Bay Area. San Francisco's stance, apparently mimed by the State of CA is that "we'll change wh

Re: NJ: Red alert? Stay home, await word

2003-03-19 Thread Joe
Yes, the State of insanity. LOL Cheers, -Joe - Original Message - From: "Deepak Jain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "J.A. Terranson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jeff Wasilko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: RE: NJ: Red alert? Stay home,