Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Sean Donelan
Its been a few years since I looked at network discovery and mapping tools. Openview/et al did the job, but was always a pain to move all the boxes to the right spots on the resulting maps. Has network discovery and mapping improved for medium-scale wide area networks for ISPs (e.g. 1,000

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Subhi S Hashwa
Sunday, June 22, 2003, 7:58:39 AM, Sean wrote: Its been a few years since I looked at network discovery and mapping tools. Openview/et al did the job, but was always a pain to move all the boxes to the right spots on the resulting maps. Has network discovery and mapping improved for

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Andy Dills
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: Has network discovery and mapping improved for medium-scale wide area networks for ISPs (e.g. 1,000 networks, 100,000 network devices)? I've found lots of discovery tools, but intelligent mapping/layout still seems to be a problem. The usual

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread jlewis
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: That's quite a medium-scale. Is there a single entity in the world that controls 1,000 networks and 100,000 network devices? WorldCom^Hn -- Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| I route

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Jonathan Crockett
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:16:38PM -0400, Andy Dills wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: Has network discovery and mapping improved for medium-scale wide area networks for ISPs (e.g. 1,000 networks, 100,000 network devices)? I've found lots of discovery tools, but

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Justin Shore
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: Its been a few years since I looked at network discovery and mapping tools. Openview/et al did the job, but was always a pain to move all the boxes to the right spots on the resulting maps. Has network discovery and mapping improved for

RE: The Cidr Report

2003-06-22 Thread McBurnett, Jim
Not sure how relevent this may be but: Interland has recently been in a major network move They boight out Communitech and are in the process of moving datacenters to the Interland centers.. This could explain it But they should be doing a better job of it though... Jim -Original

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Andy Dills
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: That's quite a medium-scale. Is there a single entity in the world that controls 1,000 networks and 100,000 network devices? WorldCom^Hn Well, sure, MCI is a single company that owns that many

Re: BTinternet problems?

2003-06-22 Thread bdragon
Mike wrote: We're receiving multiple complaints about problems reaching anything @bt. Is anyone else experiencing this? GrrrThree days later, BT is now telling their customers that somehow, this is our fault. I find it rather odd that everyone in the world can reach us,

Re: BTinternet problems?

2003-06-22 Thread Mike Lewinski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You appear to be excessively deaggregating your space. Perhaps they are doing the responsible thing by filtering it? I had a /20 from which BT was unreachable, and a /24 working just fine, so this seems doubtful, unless they are doing it to be spiteful and punitive

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: That's quite a medium-scale. Is there a single entity in the world that controls 1,000 networks and 100,000 network devices? Its a bit like the fish that got away. People have varying ideas about how big is big. Its smaller than the Internet, but

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:24:58PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: gaps between entities I'm interested in mapping. I want to discover and map the connections indviduals may know about, but no one realized how all the pieces were connected. So far the recommendations have included [...] I'm

RE: IRR/RADB and BGP

2003-06-22 Thread jlewis
On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: I dunno, there are plenty of smaller ASes who have yet to be forced to register their routes. We haven't yet been forced, but I finally got motivated to submit them to altdb last night. Altdb definitely rocks. Back when I got PI space in 1998, there