It kinda looks like the virus or whatever it is, is spoofing
source IP.
Now I am seeing lots of spoofed packets trying to egress out of
our network.
We are filtering egress traffic so obviously its being dropped at
edge of course...
Just cleared access-list counter about a minute or so ago
On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 11:34 PM, Danny McPherson wrote:
Current_Total: 120,475
Max_Total: 123,814
Average_Total: 122,029
I failed to consider that today's average has been skewed by the outage
data being factored for the last 10 hours or so towards the Daily
Average.
I
Affirmative Bryan,
I am unable to reach www.microsoft.com , nor getting response for my ping
requests. I think virus is up, oh well I don't know what to say, or shall we
say, Rest in Peace?
Mehmet Akcin
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Heitman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 08:26 PM 14/08/2003 -0700, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
TORIX is off the net
traces to peer1 routers/hosts at 151 front die before reaching toronto
the rumor mill has it that 151 front's generator system failed utterly...
Just called my colo provider (GT/360) and they said the air conditioners
are
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
I have been hearing on the TV that some places that had power failure have
started getting their power back, reporters say hopefully by the morning all
of the places where had power failure will back online.
In NYC it seems like either some places are
The building is run / managed by RACO. Bell along with pretty well every
carrier in Canada are tenants of the building. Its a VERY large carrier POI.
I spoke with GT at 3:30 Eastern and they still were waiting for some
contractors to show up to fix the air conditioners. Street power was
Good morning,
I try to understand the boot process of a msfc2 in cat6500 in
hybrid mode. After reading the appropriate docs at CCO and some
practise, I understand how to boot it and mostly (*sigh*) it
works.
Asking these detailed questions to ppl also administrating
cat6k revealed a deep lack
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
we could try to match the power grid's reliability by router knobs
which watched output queue length, and when it got too long the
router would power down and require a manual restart.
Seems they already thought of this - cisco did this in the recent
Pardon the posting from (for once) a non-blackout area, but I have a
small request.
I just lost a large chunk of my work to a disk failure. A couple of
months ago, I mailed out a bunch of my anti-spam scripts and database
schemas to someone on this list. I'd know who, but my mail was hosed,
ut all those SONET hubs in basements, SLC's in the burbs and such
-- they don't have generators. They have X hours of batteries. In
the fine print, it says the LEC will have a portable generator
on site before they die.
That's doable if the failure is local; say a semi taking out
a power pole.
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 15 21:47:34 2003 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report.
Recent Table
It appears that this was the largest power outage on record,
in a variety of respects (geographic reach, number of grid
line-miles, megawatts of capacity, number of affected
customers, etc.).
Despite all the noise already arising about the antiquated
American grid, it's important to recognize
Yeah:
7 sl-gw29-nyc-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.13.16) 8.728 ms 8.674 ms
8 sl-ft-10-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.171.90) 12.338 ms 11.911 ms
9 P13-0.NYKCR2.New-york.opentransit.net (193.251.241.30) 37.556 ms
10 P2-0.NYKBB5.New-york.opentransit.net (193.251.241.230) 12.385 ms
11
I've had no problem getting to Microsoft's site(s) today...I'm in the
southeastern US if it makes a difference.
- Robbie
Chris Horry wrote:
Bryan Heitman wrote:
Several networks I have talked to are reporting they can't get to
www.microsoft.com
Has the virus began? anyone?
Yep, remember
Windowsupdate does seem a bit slow. The drones are marching.
-Original Message-
From: Robbie Foust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:04 AM
To: Chris Horry
Cc: Bryan Heitman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: microsoft.com
I've had no problem getting to
No problems here, UUNET out of DC
Robbie Foust
Bryan Heitman wrote:
Several networks I have talked to are reporting they can't get to
www.microsoft.com
Has the virus began? anyone?
Yep, remember it's already August 16th in some parts of the world.
Unable to get to www.microsoft.com at 0958 EDT.
Northeastern US. No problems
good here thru ATT and Broadwing..
Jim
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:16 AM
To: Robbie Foust
Cc: Bryan Heitman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Chris Horry
Subject: Re: microsoft.com
No problems here, UUNET
Our assessment of worm's behavior is below:
If windowsupdate.com fails to resolve, it will return a -1, which is not
interpreted because this routine has no error checking. The worm then
attempts to send its SYN packets to 255.255.255.255, which may have done
some interesting things, but it
Once upon a time, David Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
But all those SONET hubs in basements, SLC's in the burbs and such
-- they don't have generators. They have X hours of batteries. In
the fine print, it says the LEC will have a portable generator
on site before they die.
We've got
On Thursday, 14 August 2003, at 23:13PM, David Lesher wrote:
I'm no power engineer but I do not envy them. Can YOU build an
equal size TCP/IP network with the added requirement that you
never drop any more than say one or 2 bits/hour?
Perhaps the lesson to learn is that very large networks
Perhaps the lesson to learn is that very large networks don't always
lead to very high stability. A much larger number of smaller, more
autonomous generation and transmission facilities might have much more
reasonable interconnection requirements, and hence less wide-ranging
failure modes.
I remember a recent thread about a security guard shutting down a Colo
facility. It seems he hit the Emergency power off button while looking
for a way to silence a door alarm. Anyone know if he found a new job
with the power company?
-e
-Original Message-
From: Ejay Hire
Sent:
On 2003-08-15-09:49:38, Temkin, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know what the status of 60 Hudson in NYC is? We're
waiting for Yipes to come back online and info has been hard to come
by..
60 Hudson doesn't have a house generator, and has been without utility
power since
And if we extrapolate that lesson to IP networks it implies that any
medium to large sized organization should do their own BGP peering
and multihome to 3 or more upstream network providers. On the other
hand, if you understand why electrical networks shed load and develop
their cascading
On 2003-08-15-12:11:18, Adam Rothschild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
On a related note, 25 Broadway (TELEHOUSE Broadway Center) has
been on generator power since around 4.15PM EST yesterday
[...]
To clarify, the TELEHOUSE facility inside 25 Broadway is in generator
power. Other building
Some updated images of routing table size and 7-day prefix withdrawals:
http://gradus.renesys.com/aug2003/blackout3-rtsize.gif
http://gradus.renesys.com/aug2003/aug7-aug15-withdrawals.gif
(Blackout is event #3 on the right.)
We're about halfway back to the table sizes we started
On Friday, 15 August 2003, at 11:55AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps the lesson to learn is that very large networks don't always
lead to very high stability. A much larger number of smaller, more
autonomous generation and transmission facilities might have much more
reasonable
Actually faster than usual here, probably due to akamai:
Non-authoritative answer:
www.windowsupdate.com canonical name =
windowsupdate.microsoft.nsatc.net.
windowsupdate.microsoft.nsatc.net canonical name =
windowsupdate.microsoft.com.edgesuite.net.
On Friday, 15 August 2003, at 15:34PM, Rich Casto wrote:
I wonder how much of the understanding and 100 years experience of
building power distribution networks is based on the fact that
affordable, distributed, small-scale power generation is not possible,
mandating large-scale, centralised
At 08:13 PM 8/14/2003, David Lesher wrote:
Then run parts at 105-110% and it gets really hard.
The power industry designs a grid that runs so close to capacity that if^W
when something big fails, the whole grid shuts down in a cascade. They
know it:
Rubbish again.
Welcome to the
subsidize) local power generation via renewable energy sources (e.g.
solar, wind, hydro) it would go a long way towards solving this problem.
Rubbish.
If in order to make it viable such energy needs to be subsidized then it is
not affordable.
And solar nor wind are good for base energy
Maybe we could attach the packets to hot air balloons and send them
with the wind?
RFC1149, RFC2549.
Stephen
I similar technology has been discussed before, and I believe it is still a viable
option: RFCs 1149 and 2549, Avian Carriers. While avian carriers do present
problems, (flapping, unpredictable delay, queuing issues, and buggy implementations
(specifically lice and mites)), I believe they
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Petri Helenius wrote:
Maybe we could attach the packets to hot air balloons and send them with the wind?
This seems to be a promising idea, given that the high-tech industry is
already adept at producing immeasureable quantities of hot air.
--vadim
On vrijdag, aug 15, 2003, at 23:58 Europe/Amsterdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Amount of energy generated must be balanced with the amount of energy
used
at any time. Otherwise Bad Things (tm) will happen. The shutown of the
grid is a very good thing compared to what it would have been had it
On vrijdag, aug 15, 2003, at 23:49 Europe/Amsterdam, Petri Helenius
wrote:
And solar nor wind are good for base energy production so we´re stuck
with other methods unless you want to move IP packets only when it´s
windy.
Or only have cooling when the sun shines.
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 05:52:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rubbish.
If in order to make it viable such energy needs to be subsidized then it is
not affordable.
That's a rather amusing position for someone in the IP world to take.
I seem to recall DARPA subsidizing research into
Then run parts at 105-110% and it gets really hard.
The power industry designs a grid that runs so close to capacity that if^W
when something big fails, the whole grid shuts down in a cascade. They
know it:
Rubbish again.
Welcome to the wonderful world of physics. Ask your favourite
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Ejay Hire wrote:
I similar technology has been discussed before, and I believe it is still a
viable option: RFCs 1149 and 2549, Avian Carriers. While avian carriers do
present problems, (flapping, unpredictable delay, queuing issues, and buggy
implementations
I guess the Department of Energy disagrees.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/wind/
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Iljitsch van Beijnum
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 5:28 PM
To: Petri Helenius
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: East Coast
It seems to me that the power guys are still living somewhere in the
last century. Is it really impossible to absorb power spikes? We can go
from utility to battery or the other way around in milliseconds, so it
should be possible to activate something that can absorb a short spike
much
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:25:14 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:
It seems to me that the power guys are still living somewhere in the
last century. Is it really impossible to absorb power spikes? We can go
from utility to battery or the other way around in milliseconds, so it
How many kVA
For two, most of the things that consume power are not in
fact consuming exactly a fixed amount of power. Light bulbs
go dimmer if you reduce voltage; electrical motors will produce
less power (torque X rpm) if voltage drops, etc. Minor blips
are happening all the time in major grids, and
i guess it would be amusing to read a power engineers' mailing list
discussing how the internet should have been designed.
randy
Then run parts at 105-110% and it gets really hard.
The power industry designs a grid that runs so close to capacity that if^W
when something big fails, the whole grid shuts down in a cascade. They
know it:
Rubbish again.
Welcome to the wonderful world of physics. Ask your
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 05:52:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rubbish.
If in order to make it viable such energy needs to be subsidized then it is
not affordable.
That's a rather amusing position for someone in the IP world to take.
I seem to recall DARPA subsidizing research
Crist Clark wrote:
Some news outlets are reporting this is actually Microsoft's plan,
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5064433.html
I'm sure Microsoft is aware that many networks are severly pissed off
about the extra overhead they are enduring because of this worm. I think
my helpdesk said,
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
i guess it would be amusing to read a power engineers'
mailing list discussing how the internet should have
been designed.
Well, if the Internet ever has a major outage, they'll be
entitled to share their opinions. Until then...
i guess it would be amusing to read a power engineers'
mailing list discussing how the internet should have
been designed.
Well, if the Internet ever has a major outage, they'll be
entitled to share their opinions. Until then...
let's see, 7007, 128/8, ...
something comes to mind about
I'm getting happy pages about my sites in those areas since about 21:30
EST. Looking much better.
Daryl G. Jurbala
Introspect.net Consulting
Tel: +1 215 825 8401
Fax: +1 508 526 8500
http://www.introspect.net
PGP Key and Adobe Digital Signature:
http://www.introspect.net/pgp
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:25:14 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On vrijdag, aug 15, 2003, at 23:58 Europe/Amsterdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Amount of energy generated must be balanced with the amount of
energy used
at any time. Otherwise Bad Things (tm) will
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:46:56 PDT, Avleen Vig said:
To the point where it doesn't hurt my network, hurt other people, or
cause me an increase in costs, I won't be going out of my way to defend
MS. Frankly, it might be the only way they'll learn.
Imaging the havok if every Windows virus tried
On 15 Aug 2003, Scott A Crosby wrote:
I also think that its hard to appreciate the stability differences
between shipping power a few hundred feet and shipping power 1000
miles. It looks like that long-distance shipping is the root cause of
the half-dozen major outages over the past 30
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
It seems to me that the power guys are still living somewhere in the
last century. Is it really impossible to absorb power spikes? We can go
from utility to battery or the other way around in milliseconds, so it
How many
Load management is actually fairly common here in Ohio in the cooperative
electric utilities. Residential users get rebates on heat pumps and water
heaters in exchange for allowing the utility to install RF controlled
interrupting switches on them. Summer ironically isn't the problem for
them,
*** ns2.nv.cox.net can't find www.windowsupdate.com: Non-existent
host/domain
Some news outlets are reporting this is actually Microsoft's plan,
Sure it was, and it's probably the best thing MS could have done (for
themselves AND the larger Internet) given the circumstances.
After all, infected
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