On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use hydrogen. One solar panel (which will last forever unless you drop
something on it) can split H2O into H and O.
Solar panels do not last forever. In fact, they degrade rather quickly due
to the radiation damage to the semiconductor (older thin
Hi Guys
I must say I'm enjoying all of these fascinating off topic followups
but isn't about time to move this discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
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Capacity isn't the problem. The problem is that there aren't enough lines
between the providers and consumers to carry the current volume.
Eric A. Hall
Exactly, and everyone on this list should realize this exists in EVERY
utility. A quote from CNN.com, Money section:
However, the wireless
A measured response is needed. Obviosly we do not want the
vulnerabilities disclosed to bored teenagers looking for excitement.
We need controlled access to this data so that those of us who need the
data to fix vulnerabilities can gain access to it but access is denied to
people without a
Hello Scott ,
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Scott McGrath wrote:
A measured response is needed. Obviosly we do not want the
vulnerabilities disclosed to bored teenagers looking for excitement.
We need controlled access to this data so that those of us who need the
data to fix vulnerabilities
Hi, we're looking to purchase our 3rd
natural gas generator and need some opinions about the different manufacturers,
off-list is fine if you like.
Thanks,
-Drew
Remember that Dig Safe is implemented on a state by state basis some of
the programs like the one you describe are dreadful. The one in my home
state is fairly thorough in checking bona fides before providing the data
I believe in setting a fairly low bar for access to this information i.e.
can
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Scott McGrath wrote:
Remember when you go to a library to study rare manuscripts you generally
need to prove to the curator that you have a legitimate scholarly interest
in the documents not simply random curiousity.
That's because those old manuscripts are fragile, not
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
Remember that Dig Safe is implemented on a state by state basis some of
the programs like the one you describe are dreadful. The one in my home
state is fairly thorough in checking bona fides before providing the data
?
This might be noteworthy:
http://de.trendmicro-europe.com/enterprise/security_info/ve_detail.php?id=55745VName=WORM_MSBLAST.DVSect=T
Hmm...I didn't even know XP had a built-in firewall. Any bets on how
long it is before other companies with software firewall products bring
suit against Microsoft for bundling a firewall in the OS?
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No clue, but I can tell you how long it will last before ISP helpdesks
disable
Information should be free. This however assumes that people will be
_responsible_ for what is done with the information.
On Manuel and Jose - with a valid permit number they get the information
if Bubba and Joe do not have a _valid_ permit number they do not get the
information because in the
On 8/17/2003 at 5:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's just come back now. Must have been a temporary holding page while
they did some maintenance.
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I was just updating a couple of Windows machines and had been
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:15:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Information should be free. This however assumes that people will be
_responsible_ for what is done with the information.
On Manuel and Jose - with a valid permit number they
We have a permutation of this in NH. When the hole is greater than 1'
deep we need a permit. This does illustrate the difficulties though we
have too much government interference now. _but_ we do need some way of
ensuring that information is used responsibly and I do not think that a
Poking around a little on one of the URLs on your page, I came across
the more specific set of Operational Info for the NY Independent System
Operators:
http://www.nyiso.com/oasis/index.html#opinfo
Jon Torrez wrote:
Thanks, I am slowly creating a list of this available information
It would be cool to update the NANOG Traceroute with MPLS
extensions.
-hc
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 12:26:34AM +0200, Jesper Skriver wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14,
The Dig Safe program might be a good model for controlling access to
Sean's work. This would not preclude further scholarship on Sean's work
but it would keep the data out of the hands of the 31337 crowd.
Huh ?, Try this on for size , Hello , I am joe's contracting
Hello,
Have anyone taking IP from yipes at 401 North Broad in PHL seen any
interesting issues with them over last two weeks? Please reply off the
list. Oh, and if anyone from Yipes and Williams feels like explaining how
they can stuff what it claims to be a gige on traceroutes
The Dig Safe program might be a good model for controlling access to
Sean's work. This would not preclude further scholarship on Sean's work
but it would keep the data out of the hands of the 31337 crowd.
Huh ?, Try this on for size , Hello , I am joe's contracting
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason for that is that if one does not call call before dig, one would
be liable. If one does call and misunderstands, the survey company would be
liable. So those companies prefer to leave very clear marks.
The way it works in California is
Where can one get a current copy of Nanog-Traceroute...?
From my googling it appears to have gone out of favour, and I can't seem to
find any current repository of source...
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Quadratic Technologies
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On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 08:28:44PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts this week?
Would it be better to
And here we all go again, talking about something we have no clue
about. In case you have forgotten, I would like to remind you all
of certain things (in no particular order).
You ARE NOT:
a) electric utilities
b) independent system operators
c) utility workers who actually climb poles
d)
On maandag, aug 18, 2003, at 23:11 Europe/Amsterdam, Omachonu Ogali
wrote:
You ARE:
f) END USERS OF THE U.S. POWER INFRASTRUCTURE
If only we had been, all of this would have been unnecessary...
I wouldn't be surprised if for at least half of your you are not list
there would be one or more
Dear Nanogers,
Is anyone aware of a slowdown issue throughout the US ATT network since 8/18 at
around 4pm which is causing a lot of internet circuits (including DSL) to be
inaccessible and/or appear down from the outside world? ATT says this has been
escalated to Level 4 with no ETA and
Paul Jasa wrote:
Dear Nanogers,
Is anyone aware of a slowdown issue throughout the US ATT network
since 8/18 at around 4pm which is causing a lot of internet circuits
(including DSL) to be inaccessible and/or appear down from the outside
world? ATT says this has been escalated to Level 4
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