Re: Navy Marine Corps Internet hit

2003-08-19 Thread Adi Linden
> > Obviously they didn't filter 135, 137-139, 445, and inbound > > Not obvious. I know of several sites that were infected even though they > had filters in place, due to infected laptops being brought on-site. Filtering ports 135, 137-139, 445, and only delays the inevitable...

Re: Navy Marine Corps Internet hit

2003-08-19 Thread Scott Weeks
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : > Obviously they didn't filter 135, 137-139, 445, and inbound : : Not obvious. I know of several sites that were infected even though they : had filters in place, due to infected laptops being brought on-site. :: The new EDS managed Navy Mar

Re: anybody know the owner of 209.251.0.0/19?

2003-08-19 Thread william
If you check arin whois, you can find ip block 209.251.0.0 - 209.251.23.255 listed as NETBLK-SISCOM-BLK-1 (why would ARIN assign them /20 + /21 but not make it easier for everyone and just do /19 ?): [whois.arin.net] OrgName:SISCOM OrgID: SISC Address:130 W. Second St. Addr

Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, David Diaz wrote: > > Spam may be off topic but in this case relevant. Has anyone else > noticed bounced emails that appear to have origionated from their > nanog email boxes and contain viruses? > > Obviously some bot has gone threw the nanog list and is now forging >

Re: Navy Marine Corps Internet hit

2003-08-19 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Scott! They better start blocking port 25 too. That has been the big problem today... RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +

Re: Don't beat me, but i've noticed a huge influx of these .pif virii today.

2003-08-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Drew We aver writes: >Don't kill me for posting this, it may be slightly off topic but >I have noticed a very odd spike in traffic with these virii that have .pifs >attached to them. > >The subject is random. > >The body always says: > >"See attached f

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread james
: what sort of tools are you using to interpret netflow, other than cflowd : (which I've found overly complex and not graphical enough) CUGrapher.pl

Re: Navy Marine Corps Internet hit

2003-08-19 Thread vern
> Obviously they didn't filter 135, 137-139, 445, and inbound Not obvious. I know of several sites that were infected even though they had filters in place, due to infected laptops being brought on-site. Vern

Re: Navy Marine Corps Internet hit

2003-08-19 Thread Scott Weeks
Obviously they didn't filter 135, 137-139, 445, and inbound, so I doubt we can hope that they were blocking it outbound to keep their machines from infecting other networks... scott On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: : : : The new EDS managed Navy Marine Corps Intranet with 100,

RE: Rules and Regs for a LEC's and Non LEC's

2003-08-19 Thread McBurnett, Jim
-RBOCs (note, not ILECs) cannot move inter-lata traffic without being -approved by PUC in each state for "interstate long distance". (I believe -this is part of 1984 MFJ). -CLECs have no restrictions on that. Neither do non-CLEC ISPs. ---alex I thought this only applied to VOICE traffic. AS fa

Navy Marine Corps Internet hit

2003-08-19 Thread Sean Donelan
The new EDS managed Navy Marine Corps Intranet with 100,000 users has become so congested by worm traffic it can not be used for useful work today. http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0819navy.html

Sobig.f harvesting from websites? (was Re: Virus emails from nanogmail list)

2003-08-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > I've gotten hundreds of such bounce messages today. Only a few have > Received: lines, but those have differed. I don't know for sure if > it's the nanog list, since I don't use a different email address for it. I suspect it's the list archive

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread james
On a day like today, Net Flows was very useful to clue me into by some dial up users were dead in the water. 500kbs of incoming ICMP. James Edwards Routing and Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the Santa Fe Office: Internet at Cyber Mesa

Re: Rules and Regs for a LEC's and Non LEC's

2003-08-19 Thread alex
> I was told by various sources that unless the vendor of my choosing is a > LEC of some sort, they cannot back-haul production traffic as a private > network, and that this is a FCC restriction regarding LEC licensing for > traffic/long distance etc. These various sources do not have actual > da

Re: Don't beat me, but i've noticed a huge influx of these .pif viriitoday.

2003-08-19 Thread Jack Bates
Jade E. Deane wrote: Drew, You're not seeing things. I would say you can thank "W32/Sobig.F-mm", referenced in http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5065494.html. I'd like to point out that this variant is the most aggressive yet of the Sobig family. However, I think this aggressiveness is possibly a

Rules and Regs for a LEC's and Non LEC's

2003-08-19 Thread Aaron D. Britt
I am considering transporting back-up traffic through a non-LEC for a possible DR design initiative using a couple DS3 transfer arrangements that terminate through a 3rd parties network full time, allowing that same 3rd party to redirect these same ports, during a disaster, to various hot sites wi

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Jack Bates
Jason Frisvold wrote: We used ip accounting the other night to detect and disable a large number of worm infected users that took out the router completely.. I think net flow would have been too much overhead at the time... Once we were down to a more manageable number of infected users, we used

Re: Don't beat me, but i've noticed a huge influx of these .pif virii today.

2003-08-19 Thread Henry Linneweh
Now having personally experienced the worm myself. This is how it went, there was no known way to remove the worm with any current software for the variety that I had, it was mutagenic, recognized AVP, and other forms of disinfectors and went nuts propagating itself to the point the only soluti

RE: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Mark Borchers
> > > What are you looking at when you analyze this data? I've > seen uses > > > such as top 10 destination AS's for peering evaluations. > What else? > > > Billing? > > > > > > -Lance- > > > > Also to get some application-specific bandwidth utilization numbers. > > > I wonder how do you ma

CBC on Air Canada virus

2003-08-19 Thread Fred Heutte
http://calgary.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ca_aircanada20030819 Web Posted   Aug 19 2003 01:36 PM MDT Air Canada hit by computer slowdown Calgary - A pair of computer viruses is being blamed for major disruptions in airports across North America Tuesday, including Calgary International

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Jason Frisvold
On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 16:12, Jack Bates wrote: > Number one use for netflow, scan detections. I detect most users > infected with a virus before remote networks can auto-gen a report. I > also detect mail being sent from various customer machines. High volume > traffic flags me so I can investig

Re: some wide-scale airline reservations issue

2003-08-19 Thread Sean Butler
At 04:01 PM 8/19/2003, Mike Tancsa wrote: sobig.f is REALLY making the rounds. I think its been effective as it plays on the public awareness of "some security hole" and "needed fixes from Microsoft." As the worm says, "Hi, I am from Microsoft, you need this patch" a greater than normal amount

Re: Don't beat me, but i've noticed a huge influx of these .pifvirii today.

2003-08-19 Thread Jade E. Deane
Drew, You're not seeing things. I would say you can thank "W32/Sobig.F-mm", referenced in http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5065494.html. Allow me to quote a bit from the story: [quote] The sender appears to be someone from a recognized domain name, such as ibm.com, zdnet.com or microsoft.com. The

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Petri Helenius
> > > What are you looking at when you analyze this data? I've > > seen uses such as top 10 destination AS's for peering > > evaluations. What else? Billing? > > > > -Lance- > > Also to get some application-specific bandwidth utilization > numbers. > I wonder how do you map your netflow data to

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Paul A. Bradford
Well, On ciscos, we use it to track down DOS attacks in a put it on, troubleshoot, take it off manner. Works great on not Catalyst stuff... put it on.. wait 30 seconds look for anything with K packets and you've got your bad guy, hopefully. Thanks, Paul On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 15:55, [EMAIL

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 12:55:33PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Are operators frequently using netflow nowadays? I assume that if you are, you turn > it on only for > some limited duration to collect your data and then go back and do your analysis. > Is this assumption correct? > > Wh

Re: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Jack Bates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are operators frequently using netflow nowadays? I assume that if you are, you turn it on only for some limited duration to collect your data and then go back and do your analysis. Is this assumption correct? Netflow overhead is relatively low considering what it does.

RE: Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread Mark Borchers
> What are you looking at when you analyze this data? I've > seen uses such as top 10 destination AS's for peering > evaluations. What else? Billing? > > -Lance- Also to get some application-specific bandwidth utilization numbers.

Don't beat me, but i've noticed a huge influx of these .pif virii today.

2003-08-19 Thread Drew Weaver
    Don't kill me for posting this, it may be slightly off topic but I have noticed a very odd spike in traffic with these virii that have .pifs attached to them.   The subject is random.   The body always says:   "See attached file for details" and they're always a pif file.

RE: some wide-scale airline reservations issue

2003-08-19 Thread Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta)
Joe- Sounds like this: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=581&ncid=581&e=1&u=/nm/2 0030819/tc_nm/airlines_aircanada_virus_dc -d -Original Message- From: Joe Abley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: some wide-sca

Re: some wide-scale airline reservations issue

2003-08-19 Thread Joe Abley
On Tuesday, 19 August 2003, at 15:55PM, Mark Segal wrote: I heard.. (via CBC I think).. That their computer system in Toronto crashed during the power outage.. My guess is they have some serious problem with their DB. I just booked a ticket.. Hopefully I am going somewhere. :) Google pointe

Re: some wide-scale airline reservations issue

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 03:40 PM 19/08/2003 -0400, Joe Abley wrote: The consistent component of the ongoing rumour mill is that this is due to "some computer virus". sobig.f is REALLY making the rounds. I think its been effective as it plays on the public awareness of "some security hole" and "needed fixes from Mic

RE: some wide-scale airline reservations issue

2003-08-19 Thread Mark Segal
I heard.. (via CBC I think).. That their computer system in Toronto crashed during the power outage.. My guess is they have some serious problem with their DB. I just booked a ticket.. Hopefully I am going somewhere. :) Mark -- Mark Segal Director, Network Planning FCI Broadband Tel: 905-284

Why do you use Netflow

2003-08-19 Thread lance_tatman
Are operators frequently using netflow nowadays? I assume that if you are, you turn it on only for some limited duration to collect your data and then go back and do your analysis. Is this assumption correct? What are you looking at when you analyze this data? I've seen uses such as top 10 d

some wide-scale airline reservations issue

2003-08-19 Thread Joe Abley
I'm sitting on the tarmac on AC63 from YVR to ICN which was due to take off about half an hour ago. So far they have about a quarter of the plane loaded. The problem I am hearing is that there's a system-wide network issue with Air Canada, and other airlines as well: "apparently everybody" is

anybody know the owner of 209.251.0.0/19?

2003-08-19 Thread Paul Vixie
i'm getting spammed from there... [sa:i386] ./find-spam.pl 209.251.0.0/19 SELECT HOST(s.relay) AS relay, s.entered, s.md5, s.body_md5, LENGTH(s.header)+LENGTH(b.body)+1 AS size, s.header FROM spam s LEFT JOIN bodies b ON s.bo

Fwd: Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread David Diaz
Forwarding this for Mark, he deserved some credit for verifying the IP but did not want his other addy harvested. It's like you need a wing man now for posting to mail lists! Cougar Subject: Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list From: "Mark J. Scheller" To: David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dat

RE: AT&T Blocking ICMP (was RE: AT&T US Network Slowdown?)

2003-08-19 Thread Mark Segal
UPDATED: The Nachi worm will infect vulnerable Windows XP and 2000 machines using the same exploit used by the MS Blast worm family. The main difference between Nachi and MS Blast, is that Nachi will remove and disable MS Blast infections that it encounters, and download and install the correct

Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread Petri Helenius
> > The IP address (which may or may not be accurate) appears to be > [195.157.87.253]. > > Has anyone else noticed this recently? > I have received 100+ SoBig trojan emails in the last few hours from IP 12.107.153.212. It figures, seems to be located in AT&T land so there might also be conne

Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:42:49 EDT, David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Obviously some bot has gone threw the nanog list and is now forging > headers such that they appear to come from those addresses, and they > are attaching viruses. More likely, some poor lurker at the IP address listed ha

RE: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread Dan Lockwood
I have not seen the NANOG email problem, but have received several tens of thousans of SPAM messages that claim to be from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. The originating address in the messages is 66.218.66.70. As David pointed out, this may or may not be correct. Dan -Original Message- From: Da

Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Diaz writes: > >Spam may be off topic but in this case relevant. Has anyone else >noticed bounced emails that appear to have origionated from their >nanog email boxes and contain viruses? > >Obviously some bot has gone threw the nanog list and is now forgin

Re: Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:42:49 -0400 > From: David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Spam may be off topic but in this case relevant. Has anyone else > noticed bounced emails that appear to have origionated from their > nanog email boxes and contain viruses? > > O

Clean yourselves up, please (was Re: Details)

2003-08-19 Thread George Bakos
Looks like someone on the list is infected with SoBig-F. If you are using Windows, you may want to update A/V, folks. g On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:27:02 EDT "CERT(R) Coordination Center" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > **

RE: AT&T Blocking ICMP

2003-08-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
Are they blocking just icmp echo or everything ? ---Mike At 12:29 PM 19/08/2003 -0400, Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta) wrote: The "Nachi" worm propagates via MSRPC DCOM and the IIS WebDAV bug. It may be causing this storm because it runs 300 scanning threads, and it pings each IP first

Virus emails from nanog mail list

2003-08-19 Thread David Diaz
Spam may be off topic but in this case relevant. Has anyone else noticed bounced emails that appear to have origionated from their nanog email boxes and contain viruses? Obviously some bot has gone threw the nanog list and is now forging headers such that they appear to come from those address

Re: AT&T Blocking ICMP (was RE: AT&T US Network Slowdown?)

2003-08-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:19:28 EDT, Paul Jasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > A call to AT&T Worldnet confirms that AT&T Worldnet service is blocking ICMP in > order to deal with an undefined emergency. Nothing posted on their site, nor > any other info is available. If anyone has info related to th

RE: AT&T Blocking ICMP (was RE: AT&T US Network Slowdown?)

2003-08-19 Thread Ingevaldson, Dan (ISS Atlanta)
The "Nachi" worm propagates via MSRPC DCOM and the IIS WebDAV bug. It may be causing this storm because it runs 300 scanning threads, and it pings each IP first. http://xforce.iss.net/xforce/alerts/id/150 MS Blast wasn't multithreaded. Regards, === Daniel Ingevaldso

Re: Details

2003-08-19 Thread CERT(R) Coordination Center
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- *** [NOTE -- THIS IS AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE] Thank you for contacting the CERT(R) Coordination Center. We appreciate your contacting us and consider your communications with

AT&T Blocking ICMP (was RE: AT&T US Network Slowdown?)

2003-08-19 Thread Paul Jasa
A call to AT&T Worldnet confirms that AT&T Worldnet service is blocking ICMP in order to deal with an undefined emergency. Nothing posted on their site, nor any other info is available. If anyone has info related to this "icmp outage", please advise. Thanks! pj =

RE: Natural Gas Generator manufacturer opinions? (might be off topic?)

2003-08-19 Thread Bender, Andrew
Capstone and Ingersoll-Rand NG turbines seem to be in favor these days among the paranoid. http://www.capstoneturbine.com/ http://www.irpowerworks.com/ These may be up to 2x the cost of a diesel, but they run forever, you can put them anywhere, they always start, and the fuel never gets fouled

Worldnet People on list?

2003-08-19 Thread Drew Weaver
    Any worldnet people on the list? It looks like they blacklisted one of my email servers and the reason: is truncated and I have no idea why, I've tried sending a bunch of email to them from another domain but I've been summarily ignored.   Thanks, -Drew  

RE: Natural Gas Generator manufacturer opinions? (might be off topic?)

2003-08-19 Thread Jeffrey Wheat
Title: Message I'd be interested in this information as well.   Thanks, Jeff -Original Message-From: Drew Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:21 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: Natural Gas Generator manufacturer opinions? (might be off topi

Re: BGP route tracking.

2003-08-19 Thread cowie
> > Anybody watching the bgp routing table.. I see about 5,000 less routes than > > usual. Anybody know a good pointer.. > > Okay, here are a couple quick screenshots of what we're looking at > tonight. [..] We've collected some more plots and maps describing BGP outage patterns during las