Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Ellifson
A counter-to-counter shipment on a passenger airline is a thing of the past (at least from my experiences going directly to the passenger airlines). After Sept 11 the FAA has required that passenger airlines only accept shipments from "known shippers" (unless this has changed in the last 14 mont

Re: Sobigf + BGP

2003-08-27 Thread bdragon
> We have seen that many people *posting* do not have the best of intentions; > I can assure you that there are lurkers on Nanog (surprise, surprise) who > are not nearly as naive and well-intentioned as J. O. would hope. In fact, > I know that there are subscribers from various print media, vario

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Walden
On 27 Aug 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > FedEx Heavy = "pay a surcharge for heavy boxes, get it moved by a 120 > pound delivery person with a handtruck rather than a pallet jack or > other appropriate freight handling equipment... and dropped off the > truck". My experience is a 40% damage ra

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
"N. Richard Solis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > FedEx will be your best bet. Trust me. FedEx Heavy = "pay a surcharge for heavy boxes, get it moved by a 120 pound delivery person with a handtruck rather than a pallet jack or other appropriate freight handling equipment... and dropped off the

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Zito
Thanks to everyone for all of the responses. I got in touch with a number of companies - the two big common sticking points seem to be insuring shipments of greater than 50k value and the SLAs on their freight delivery. Overall (price vs. SLA vs. convenience), FedEx won, though they max out at 5

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Gabriel
Matthew Zito wrote: > > Hello, > > I've had good luck shipping ~600 lbs of gear next day with Eagle Global Logistics. (http://www.eagleusa.com) It was fairly reasonably priced, too. HTH, Gabriel -- Gabriel Cain www.dialupusa.net Systems Administrator

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Christopher Bird
I have used Federal Express to great effect in the past. I have tended to stay away from Airborne because the local people here in Dallas didn't know not to turn printers full of toner on their sides. Since Airborne packed them, I felt they should not have been full of toner, but that is another s

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread David Diaz
I guess it depends on your traffic type and destination. Level 3 has a lot of connectivity to content providers such as yahoo and microsoft. As Joel P pointed out they have been a reliable backbone with a lot of capacity. They also have knowledgeable peering people although they lean towards

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Sweet
Hi there Rick! On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Rick Ernst wrote: > > > We are sending out feelers for adding an additional DS-3, or possibly frac > OC-3. One of the responses came back with "we won't be competive with > because they don't have their own backbone. > Alot of carriers that have a "Nationwi

RE: Redback contact needed

2003-08-27 Thread sowens
I got some names. Thanks to all that responded. Shane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Redback contact needed Does anyone know an escalation contact for Redback's TAC? Sh

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Will Yardley
Well don't send messages to a list from an address that you don't want to receive responses to... After sending an offlist response: > This is probably because this is an internal account that no one is > supposed to be sending mail to. If you are sending it mail, you are > probably a low-life

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 15:53:44 -0500 John Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hear that Level 3 is good but do they handle small stuff like T-1? We may be looking to dual-home soon and will be looking around. Remember, Level(3) bought (at least some of) genuity/bbn. I was always impr

OT: Redback contact needed

2003-08-27 Thread sowens
Does anyone know an escalation contact for Redback's TAC? Shane Owens Sr Manager IP/IT Engineering and Network Control Center EPIK Communications desk: 407-472-8291 Sowensepiknet

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread John Palmer
I hear that Level 3 is good but do they handle small stuff like T-1? We may be looking to dual-home soon and will be looking around. - Original Message - From: "Sean Crandall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Rick Ernst'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 200

RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Sean Crandall
> One of the providers we are looking at is Level-3. Any > comments good/bad on > reliability and clue? We already have UU, Sprint, and AT&T. > I also realize > that the "they suck less" list changes continuously... :) I have about 5 GB of IP transit connections from Level3 across 8 markets

RE: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Joel Perez
I have a Level-3 OC-3 in Miami. So far they have proved to be more stable than my other 2 upstreams. Never had a problem with their helpdesk either! Regards, -- Joel Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | IP Engineer http://www.ntera.net/ | Nter

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Petri Helenius
Rick Ernst wrote: One of the providers we are looking at is Level-3. Any comments good/bad on reliability and clue? We already have UU, Sprint, and AT&T. I also realize that the "they suck less" list changes continuously... :) Look for one which has working abuse department which actually ta

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Christopher McCrory
Hello... On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 12:32, Rick Ernst wrote: > We are sending out feelers for adding an additional DS-3, or possibly frac > OC-3. One of the responses came back with "we won't be competive with > because they don't have their own backbone. > > Is there a cross-reference for provide

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread chuck goolsbee
We recently (beginning of July) acquired a small hosting company (about 100 servers) based in New Jersey. This was a very short-notice, literally overnight move of many servers, and customers, from New Jersey to the west coast. We used Airborne Express to overnight shi

RE: Measured Internet good v. "bad" traffic

2003-08-27 Thread David Schwartz
> I mean if the traffic were unrealistically to increase so that > bad traffic was > 50% of all traffic we would all have to double our circuit and > router capacity > and you either pass that cost on directly (charge for extra > usage) or indirectly > (increase the $ per Mb) to the user. > I th

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread JC Dill
At 11:19 AM 8/27/2003, Matthew Zito wrote: I was wondering if anyone could provide any advice or suggestions on shipping heavy/bulky equipment (~300 pounds, about a half-rack worth of gear) on short notice cross-country? We're obviously looking to minimize cost, but realistically it can't be in

Re[2]: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Welty
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:36:54 -0400 "Nathan J. Mehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In the immortal words of Richard Welty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:25:46 -0700 (PDT) "Gary E. Miller" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > returning 127.0.0.2 for everything would be an ugly way

Tier-1 without their own backbone?

2003-08-27 Thread Rick Ernst
We are sending out feelers for adding an additional DS-3, or possibly frac OC-3. One of the responses came back with "we won't be competive with because they don't have their own backbone. Is there a cross-reference for provider vs network backbone, or is this just something that we have to as

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Jim Deleskie
I've shipped LOTS of heavy datacenter gear via FedEX cross countryb4 without problems as well. -Jim -Original Message- From: Deepak Jain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 3:08 PM To: Matthew Zito; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cross-country shipping of larg

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Well I recieved lots of computer hardware including laptops/desktops with fedex when I was living in Turkey from USA without any problem, 300 pounds is quite heavy and I assume this is a couple of thousands computer gear so the best would be fedex, imho. Mehmet Akcin - Original Message -

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Deepak Jain
We've shipped (using Fedex International Freight) 300+lb pallets of Sun gear without any untoward delays or problems. Multiple times. The pricing was excellent and the service (once they knew freight was involved) was fine. I think bad experiences with fedex have more to do with the statistical

Attn: Operators - BGP-4 MIB issues

2003-08-27 Thread Jeffrey Haas
Greetings, I'm serving as the editor of the current BGP-4 MIB. We're trying to push the MIB through standards. Last call has been issued. The MIB, as currently documented includes the following four objects: bgpPeerInUpdates

RE: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Temkin, David
FWIW we've had FedEx destroy hundreds of thousands of dollars of gear in transit (all shipped with full insurance and properly packed). They're extremely slow to pay their insurance claims on large amounts, as well. This has happened to us at least 5 times so far - cross-country, cross-state, an

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Jay Hennigan
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Matthew Zito wrote: > I was wondering if anyone could provide any advice or suggestions on > shipping heavy/bulky equipment (~300 pounds, about a half-rack worth of > gear) on short notice cross-country? We're obviously looking to minimize > cost, but realistically it can't

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread N. Richard Solis
FedEx will be your best bet. Trust me. You COULD do a counter to counter shipment via an airline cargo desk. That MIGHT be cheaper but you will still have to transport it from your spot to their pickup and back again on the other side. Rail is not an option because it is across country. Groun

Re: Measured Internet good v. "bad" traffic

2003-08-27 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Raymond, Steven wrote: > Have received complaints from usage-based-billing Internet customers lately > about not wanting to pay for the nuisance traffic caused by worm-of-the-day. > I believe that in the case of a short-duration, targeted attack that can be > eventually be st

Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Zito
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could provide any advice or suggestions on shipping heavy/bulky equipment (~300 pounds, about a half-rack worth of gear) on short notice cross-country? We're obviously looking to minimize cost, but realistically it can't be in transit for more than two days. Ar

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

2003-08-27 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
> --On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:36 AM -0400 Leo Bicknell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In a message written on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:15:18AM -0400, John Payne > > wrote: > >> If this is true, then why do the european NAP mailing lists (which push > >> IRR filtering) have an almost co

Measured Internet good v. "bad" traffic

2003-08-27 Thread Raymond, Steven
Have received complaints from usage-based-billing Internet customers lately about not wanting to pay for the nuisance traffic caused by worm-of-the-day. I believe that in the case of a short-duration, targeted attack that can be eventually be stopped, a billing credit is probably appropriate. But

Blocking ports

2003-08-27 Thread Wesley Vaux
Has anyone that works for/ owns an isp blocked any ports regarding this new/old virus threat? Wes Vaux, CCNA, CCDA Network Security Engineer, 9000 Regency Pkwy Ste 500 Cary, NC 27511 t 919.463.6782

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

2003-08-27 Thread John Payne
--On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:36 AM -0400 Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In a message written on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:15:18AM -0400, John Payne wrote: If this is true, then why do the european NAP mailing lists (which push IRR filtering) have an almost constant stream of "oops,

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Chris Woodfield
IIRC, it was Ron Guilmette who did this for a BL zone he was operating a long time ago, but it happened six months or so after he had deactivated the zone and was still getting numerous queries for it. So he reactivated the zone, answering 127.0.0.2 for every query, to get those people to stop.

Re: Max TNT ping thing

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Crocker
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 12:46 PM, Ejay Hire wrote: Here is a summary of our experiences with the bug. Last Thursday, A TNTs with years of uptime rebooted. No cause was apparent, and nothing relevant happened in the logs. On Friday, It happened to a different TNT. This occurred with

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Nathan J. Mehl
In the immortal words of Richard Welty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:25:46 -0700 (PDT) "Gary E. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > returning 127.0.0.2 for everything would be an ugly way to bow out. > > yes, but it's been done before. And oddly enough, it was a terrible id

RE: Max TNT ping thing

2003-08-27 Thread Ejay Hire
Here is a summary of our experiences with the bug. Last Thursday, A TNTs with years of uptime rebooted. No cause was apparent, and nothing relevant happened in the logs. On Friday, It happened to a different TNT. This occurred with increasing frequency over the weekend, and we didn't get a lot

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Paul Vixie
> Someone has suggested 'anycasting' what do people (particually you > Paul) think of using anycasting for a DNSbl? (- AS112 anyone?) unowned anycast, such as that used in as112, is only possible when the replies have no value (and thus need not be synchronized or centrally authorized.) converse

Re: Re[2]: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Paul Vixie
> I still like scoring based systems (like spamassassin), which give one a > level of control, instead of bouncing at the MTA level. ah. i, rather, want to drop as much as i can at the mta (or router) level. > My mail is important enough that I can spend the extra CPU cycles... at 50:1 (spam:n

Re: Re[2]: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Margie
--On Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:53 AM -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mail was delayed (and servers put under heavy load waiting for DNS > queries to time out) when MAPS finally shut off free access > without warning (a week or more after they originally had warned > they'd do it, but gave eve

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On woensdag, aug 27, 2003, at 13:54 Europe/Amsterdam, Matthew Sullivan wrote: Someone has suggested 'anycasting' what do people (particually you Paul) think of using anycasting for a DNSbl? (- AS112 anyone?) I think it may work well... however I am a novice in terms of BGP... As far as I can

Re: Max TNT ping thing

2003-08-27 Thread Andy Walden
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Geo. wrote: > > Someone on this list had mentioned a network card for the Max TNT that made > it immune to the nachia worm ping issue. > > Is that the 4 port (3 ethernet, 1 fast ether) card or the single port card > with the dongle thing or something else? It turns out this

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

2003-08-27 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:15:18AM -0400, John Payne wrote: > If this is true, then why do the european NAP mailing lists (which push IRR > filtering) have an almost constant stream of "oops, our customer announced > everything to us and we leaked it". Because European naps

Re: Microsoft distributes free CDs in Japan to patch Windows

2003-08-27 Thread Roland Perry
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, JC Dill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Later I learned that this "critical update" package was mostly for installing >IE6, and that there are a lot of people who have had this same problem trying to >install IE6 on ME I've been installing Windows for about 15 years

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Matthew Sullivan
Ok this time with the correct from address ;-) Paul Vixie wrote: ok so this part does not mystify me... Someone has been in contact with Joe via phone and posted to another mailing list That Zhall Not Be Named that exactly that is happening. The zone is dead, ... ...because running blac

Re: Re[2]: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread jlewis
On 27 Aug 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: > ...because running blackhole lists is surprisingly more hard > than most people think. (witness the sorbs.net message here > a few hours ago complaining of 50Kpkt/day query loads.) i've Matt wasn't complaining about query loads. And 50Kpkt/day in queries is

Re: Microsoft distributes free CDs in Japan to patch Windows

2003-08-27 Thread JC Dill
At 04:03 PM 8/25/2003, Andy Walden wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Henry Linneweh wrote: > Microsoft has a task scheduler that people should learn to use to remind > them to check update to make sure their patches are current, it is > located in the control panel and labled Scheduled Tasks and has an

Re: Re[2]: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Paul Vixie
ok so this part does not mystify me... > Someone has been in contact with Joe via phone and posted > to another mailing list That Zhall Not Be Named that > exactly that is happening. The zone is dead, ... ...because running blackhole lists is surprisingly more hard than most people think. (wit

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

2003-08-27 Thread John Payne
--On Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:35 AM -0400 Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Almost everyone filters customers. The large ISP's all have the same opinion, if small to medium sized players abuse the system they get depeered and become someone's customer aggressively filtered. The large I

Re[2]: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Welty
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Mark Jeftovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Returning 127.0.0.2 on everything would indeed be an ugly way to bow > out, but its been done before. Another RBL went out the same way > previously, can't remember which one (was it orbz?) it was more complicated

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Richard! returning 127.0.0.2 for everything would be an ugly way to bow out. I am just seeing timeouts for XXX.relays.osirusoft.com now. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701

Re: FW: Qwest Dial Access Network Labor Day Week Schedule

2003-08-27 Thread Haesu
/me counts number of sales people on NANOG list.. Oh gee, time for those reseller people to expect more emails with sales inquiries. -hc -- Sincerely, Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. WWW: http://www.towardex.com E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: (978) 394-2867 On Tue, Aug 26, 2003

relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Richard Welty
although this has to do with spam, i think folks will agree that there's operational content here: relays.osirusoft.com is down, it's history, stop using it. it is currently returning 127.0.0.2 for everything, so if you're using it, you won't receive this, but at least those who don't use it wil

Sprint folks - can you help?

2003-08-27 Thread neal rauhauser
I could really use an assist from someone at Sprint - I'm a consultant for an AS that receives service from two ISPs who peer with Sprint. One of them is a healthy regional who listens to me about BGP, the other, well, I wish them the best of luck, but we really, really, really want to put a

is there still a BGP-understanding person at fast.net/netaxs?

2003-08-27 Thread alex
Hello, Did anyone recently see anyone from fast.net that does not get confused by "show ip bgp " output or did the bankruptcy force them to cut payroll so much that they cannot afford anyone but a Chubb Institute type? Thanks, Alex

OK! Its fixed! Sprint folks - can you help?

2003-08-27 Thread neal rauhauser
Geez, all I wanted was a little help, and I get pounced on by a platoon of eager Sprint BGP gurus. The desired filter change, it is done, and Sprint, who has always been my first choice as a provider, just lengthened their lead a little more. neal rauhauser wrote: > >I could rea

Re: relays.osirusoft.com

2003-08-27 Thread Michael K. Smith
On 8/26/03 4:45 PM, "Matthew Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > George William Herbert wrote: > >> Yes, this is due to a massive DDOS. At least three >> of the spamfilter BLs have been so attacked this week. >> >> Some of the networks represented here have not been >> as timely about he

Re: FW: Qwest Dial Access Network Labor Day Week Schedule

2003-08-27 Thread Scott Granados
And now look, all the plaintext e-mail addresses are posted to a mailing list. Which is archived on the web! Nice!

FW: Qwest Dial Access Network Labor Day Week Schedule

2003-08-27 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Fun rant from a qwest dial up reseller Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com -Original Message- From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:45 PM To: Cho, Mary M Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Welchia Virus - it is real and hard to detect.......

2003-08-27 Thread Christopher Bird
I hope the nanog mail list is an OK place to warn of this.. As part of my clean up for clients who have had Blaster, I came across a variant, sometimes called Blaster D. Its other name is welchia. It seems to do the following: Gets the Microsoft patch for regular blaster. Installs a fil