On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Matthew Crocker wrote:
If your ISP violates your privacy or has a privacy policy you don't
like, find another one.
How do I know that?
As a hobby, I'm running a community site for an often misunderstood
sexual/lifestyle minority. Most of patrons would be very unhappy
Inline.
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:01:16PM -0400, Sean Donelan said something to the effect of:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Steve Carter wrote:
The rate-limiters have become more interesting recently, meaning they've
actually started dropping packets (quite a lot in some cases) because of
the
Can anyone in London provide details on the outage... are any colos
on generator?
dave
| David Diaz
| Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:35 PM
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| Can anyone in London provide details on the outage... are any colos
| on generator?
| dave
|
Reuters is reporting the power as being restored.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNewsstoryID=3352971
Todd
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew
Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
If your ISP ... does a bad thing ... find another one.
Great in theory, but the market is imperfect. Even if money (and the
loss you'd incur from terminating your current ISP early) isn't the main
issue. Many countries, even
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/li0s
Neither is really an 'order' so much as a 'suggestion'.. either way, its
kind of inappropriate to make this suggestion without knowing how each
operator can or could apply a fix... that is my opinion atleast.
The
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Rachael Treu wrote:
Facing facts, people are _not_ patching their stuff, in spite of pervasive
pleas and warnings from vendors and media geeks.
There need to be more serious consequences for not patching. Like, having
their ports turned down until they decide that
Matthew Crocker wrote:
Shouldn't customers that purchase IP services from an ISP use
the ISPs
mail server as a smart host for outbound mail?
Look carefully at that question and find the logic error.
...
In case you missed it, the customer purchased 'IP' service, not 'ISP mail
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Owen DeLong wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we could, instead, publish an INFECTED SYSTEMS
blacklist
based on such connections to a honeypot. Any system which made the correct
request could then have it's address published via BGP or DNS for ISPs and
the like to do as
We have been doing that. During quiet times our Customer Service Reps
(CSR) are calling infected users telling them
a) Their computer has been compromised. In its current state it can
potentially be taken over by others or other users can look at the contents
of their private files etc.
b)
At 12:54 PM 28/08/2003 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote:
Alternatively, perhaps we could, instead, publish an INFECTED SYSTEMS
blacklist
based on such connections to a honeypot. Any system which made the correct
request could then have it's address published via BGP or DNS for ISPs and
the like to do
That's why we must encourage all ISPSs to be good guys, because we don't
want Government Regulators setting standards in these areas, do we?
if recent activity in the VoIP market is any indication, then we here
won't have much input as to when and how the ISP market gets regulated.
--
Paul
Paul wrote:
this part, on the other hand...
he's put
*.*.*.* in, he's asking people not to use it anymore.
...mystifies me. anyone who has read rfc1034 or rfc1035, even
if they did not also read rfc2181 or rfc2136 or rfc2308, knows
that in a
Mike Tancsa wrote:
I dont think this would work too well. The users who are infected
often think something is wrong because their connection and computer
are not working quite right. So they disconnect / reconnect / reboot
so they burn through quite a few dynamic IP addresses along the way.
At 12:53 PM 8/28/2003, Tony Hain wrote:
Matthew Crocker wrote:
Shouldn't customers that purchase IP services from an ISP use
the ISPs mail server as a smart host for outbound mail?
Look carefully at that question and find the logic error.
...
In case you missed it, the customer purchased
At 11:14 PM 28/08/2003 +0300, Petri Helenius wrote:
Mike Tancsa wrote:
I dont think this would work too well. The users who are infected often
think something is wrong because their connection and computer are not
working quite right. So they disconnect / reconnect / reboot so they burn
Thus spake Petri Helenius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [28/08/03 16:23]:
I dont think this would work too well. The users who are infected
often think something is wrong because their connection and computer
are not working quite right. So they disconnect / reconnect / reboot
so they burn through
On Thursday 28 August 2003 04:24 pm, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 11:14 PM 28/08/2003 +0300, Petri Helenius wrote:
Mike Tancsa wrote:
I dont think this would work too well. The users who are infected often
think something is wrong because their connection and computer are not
working quite right.
Selon Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Rate-limiting ICMP is 'ok' if you, as the provider, think its worthwhile
and you, as the provider, want to deal with the headache
Damian Gerow wrote:
Or potentially an artifact of wanting more IP space from ARIN, as
opposed to
assigning a static IP to every user we have, even the ones that are only
connected for about an hour a month. But hey, that's just a minor detail.
Sorry for momentarily phasing to our local
Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 02:34 AM 8/28/2003 -0500, Susan Zeigler wrote:
WTF. This IP is NOT dynamic. The client has had it for about two years.
What is the IP address they are rejecting ?
Unless AOL is downloading the
entire routing pools from all ISPs on a daily basis, how do they
At 11:47 PM 28/08/2003 +0300, Petri Helenius wrote:
connections has passed the dialup ones a few years ago. Dialup users also
cannot generate any
significant DDoS traffic even if combined by a factor of 1.
a)http://www.acm.org/sigcomm/sigcomm2003/papers.html#p75-kuzmanovic
b)Trinity
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Mike Tancsa wrote:
The majority comply and are understanding.
and the rest?
-Dan
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[-] Omae no subete no kichi wa ore no mono da. [-]
Does the IP address of your client's SMTP server have a reverse DNS entry
(PTR record) assigned to it?
It seems to be a new best practice to not accept e-mail from an IP address
that doesn't have a PTR record assigned. Furthermore, if those PTR records
indicate anything like dial dns cable then
I saw it on CNN but it sounds like it wasnt as bad as they wanted to make out..
frmo what I was told none of the major colos which are all in the East lost
utility and I dont know about stuff in the South which is where the power was
out.. seems theres not much of interest there from a netork
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Matthew Crocker wrote:
Shouldn't customers that purchase IP services from an ISP use the ISPs
mail server as a smart host for outbound mail?
Shouldn't. There are privacy implications of having mail to be recorded
(even temporarily) at someone's disk drive.
At 03:48 PM 28/08/2003 -0500, Susan Zeigler wrote:
Unless AOL is downloading the
entire routing pools from all ISPs on a daily basis, how do they know
which IPs are dynamic and which are static;)
What would BGP tables tell you about internal routing and DNS ?
It's 216.161.123.79
If they
At 01:57 PM 28/08/2003 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Mike Tancsa wrote:
The majority comply and are understanding.
and the rest?
There will always be troublesome customers, but the VAST majority have been
compliant. If they dont want to comply to something as reasonable as this,
It should be pointed put that the ISPs have their share of blame for the
quick-spreading worms, beause they neglected very simple precautions --
such as giving cutomers pre-configured routers or DSL/cable modems with
firewalls disabled by default (instead of the standard end-user, let only
Bob Bradlee wrote:
Road-Runner pulled the same stunt with a chain of radio stations
I have as clients. We went ON-AIR with a NEWS story, and
recomended that everyone effected should call Roadrunner
or AOL. AOL contacted me, verified the problem, and had my
IP's whitelisted in a matter of
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:07:30 -0400, Matthew Crocker wrote:
It can be built without choke points. ISPs could form trust
relationships with each other and bypass the central mail relay. AOL
for example could require ISPs to meet certain criteria before they are
allowed direct connections.
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