Re: bind 9.2.3rc3 successful

2003-09-22 Thread Haesu
I am using bind 9.2.2-p2 on our resolver name servers so far.. And I have no problems to report at this time, it's been running smooth so far; mail queues started clearing out nice and clean. -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and imp

Re: bind 9.2.3rc3 successful

2003-09-22 Thread Paul Vixie
> Thought I'd mention that I helped setup BIND 9.2.3rc3 on a yellowdog > linux powercomputing machine tonight. It worked. And the mail queues > began clearing out. Just for an oddball success report. oh hell. thanks for the kind words, but we just released rc4. > Are others having similar

bind 9.2.3rc3 successful

2003-09-22 Thread William Allen Simpson
Thought I'd mention that I helped setup BIND 9.2.3rc3 on a yellowdog linux powercomputing machine tonight. It worked. And the mail queues began clearing out. Just for an oddball success report. Are others having similar luck? What needs to be done to make this a standard feature set? Is

Re: Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread Paul Vixie
> ISC has made root-delegation-only the default behaviour in the new bind, actually, though, we havn't, and wouldn't (ever). the feature is present but must be explicitly enabled by a knowledgeable operator to have effect. > how about drafting up an RFC making it an absolute default requiremen

nanog@merit.edu

2003-09-22 Thread Jay Greenberg
Anyone from AT&T on the list? I just bought a Cisco 7507 with a full AT&T config on it from March 2003. Maybe someone should be changing passwords and snmp com strong, etc? It has an AT&T asset number on it, if that helps you identify how that got overlooked. Contact me if necessary. -- Jay

Dedicated hosting / Colocation folk

2003-09-22 Thread Mehmet Akcin
howdy folk, can someone who is doing dedicated hosting / colocation can contact me offlist please? Mehmet Akcin Key fingerprint = FE 46 F8 8C 0C 2F C3 4A CF 1F BC 36 75 F4 9B C3

Re: Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Dave Stewart wrote: > Courts are likely to support the position that Verisign has control of .net > and .com and can do pretty much anything they want with it. ISC has made root-delegation-only the default behaviour in the new bind, how about drafting up an RFC making it an

caida annotated networking bibliography

2003-09-22 Thread k claffy
[ok last operationally irrelevant URL from me this month] those with researchy dispositions might like the (still young) annotated catalog of Internet research publications: http://www.caida.org/outreach/bib/networking/ far from complete and as always we welcome contributions

Cheap temperature sensors

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Boyle
From time to time this thread pops up. I found something which looked interesting and the price was right. I bought one and WOW! It is VERY impressive stuff for any price especially considering how cheap it was. I purchased 10 individual temperature sensors and two temp/humidity sensors, and

AS taxonomy (transit/stub, multi-single-homing)

2003-09-22 Thread k claffy
[also won't affect your router; also involves a risk of learning something:] in response to router vendors' request for analysis AS breakdown into of transit vs stub, multi vs single homing, using massive traceroute data as well as routeviews bgp data: http://www.caida.org/analysis/

caida macroscopic geographic analysis of IPv6 addresses

2003-09-22 Thread k claffy
[disclaimer: this email will not affect any router config or worm containment or verisign behavior, and please don't waste your time reading unless you want to learn something about v4/v6 address distribution by country] bradley extended his IPv4 address resource geopolitical analysis to IPv6

Re: Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread Dave Stewart
] As to your call for us to suspend the service, I would respectfully ] suggest that it would be premature to decide on any course of action ] until we first have had an opportunity to collect and review the ] available data. One would think it would be equally premature to roll out the service w

Re: Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread Haesu
All indications are that users, important members of the internet community we all serve, are benefiting from the improved web navigation offered by Site Finder "The Americans are comitting suicide!" :: american bomb falls in the background :: -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Co

ICANN Secsac message to the board

2003-09-22 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recommendations Regarding VeriSign's Introduction of Wild Card Response to Uninstantiated Domains within COM and NET http://www.icann.org/correspondence/secsac-to-board-22sep03.htm Several members of this community responded to my request for input

Re: VeriSign SMTP reject server updated

2003-09-22 Thread George William Herbert
>At anytime, Verisign could remove your .COM domain from their DNS for >a short period of time which would result in all of your inbound >email going to the Verisign collector servers. If this was only done >for a brief interval, say 10 minutes, you might never notice that it >had happened. But

Re: Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread Mike Tancsa
Even better, All indications are that users, important members of the internet community we all serve, are benefiting from the improved web navigation offered by Site Finder This reminds me of the Iraqi Information minister and his lunatic counterfactual arguments All indications indeed!

Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread David Lesher
>Looks like the lawsuits are going to be the ones to settle this >dispute...anyone think there's a chance of ICANN pulling .COM and .NET >from Verisign due to breach of contract? I think it's highly unlikely. ...about as likely as Mary Carey winning the Califunny recall. VeriSlime has big lobby

Verisign Responds

2003-09-22 Thread Leo Bicknell
http://www.icann.org/correspondence/lewis-to-twomey-21sep03.htm I quote: ] As to your call for us to suspend the service, I would respectfully ] suggest that it would be premature to decide on any course of action ] until we first have had an opportunity to collect and review the ] available dat

RE: comments on addressing futures....

2003-09-22 Thread Ray Plzak
John, I have forwarded your comments to the appropriate list so that they can be archived. Please look at the ARIN announcement for details concerning these documents. Thanks, Ray > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Brown > Se

Re: comments on addressing futures....

2003-09-22 Thread John Brown
YAO (yet another organization) Seems the world is full of orgs and people wanting to create yet a new thing to solve the problem. Make it a new thing and we can fix the issues at hand. I've seen enough of the BS between ICANN and ARIN (and other RIR's) to know that if both sides would really si

Go Daddy vs Verisign over Site Finder

2003-09-22 Thread Andy Ellifson
Go Daddy is at it again. They filed suit against Verisign accusing Verisign of misuse of their registry position with their Site Finder service. Let's hope they win this lawsuit too! https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/pressreleases/NR-GoDaddysuesVerisign9-22.pdf?isc=&se=%2B&from%5Fapp=

Re: anycast (Re: .ORG problems this evening)

2003-09-22 Thread just me
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, David G. Andersen wrote: With load balancing, traffic can get routed down a non-functional path while routing takes place over the other one - BBN did that to us once, was very entertaining). Ah yes, I'll always have a special place in my heart for those Localdirectors

Re: anycast (Re: .ORG problems this evening)

2003-09-22 Thread E.B. Dreger
DGA> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 18:32:19 -0400 DGA> From: David G. Andersen DGA> The whole problem with only listing two anycast servers is that DGA> you leave yourself vulnerable to other kinds of faults. Your DGA> upstream ISP fat-fingers "ip route 64.94.110.11 null0" and DGA> accidentally blitze

Re: anycast (Re: .ORG problems this evening)

2003-09-22 Thread Patrick
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, David G. Andersen wrote: > > Yes, I hope that UltraDNS implements something like this, if they have not > > already. It's still not a guarantee that things will get withdrawn -- or be > > reachable, even if working but not withdrawn -- in case of a problem. That > > still l

Re: anycast (Re: .ORG problems this evening)

2003-09-22 Thread David G. Andersen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 02:38:18PM -0400, Todd Vierling quacked: > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, E.B. Dreger wrote: > > : EBD> That's why one uses a daemon with main loop including > : EBD> something like: > : EBD> > : EBD>success = 1 ; > : EBD>for ( i = checklist ; i->callback != NULL

comments on addressing futures....

2003-09-22 Thread bmanning
this from the ARIN-PPL mailing list... it deserves broad consideration, even from NANOG :) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since ARIN has been sending new proposals today, they seem to have forgotten the most important one of all, th

Re: ICANN asks VeriSign to pull redirect service

2003-09-22 Thread John Dvorak
Worth noting is the follow-up report: http://www.iab.org/documents/docs/2003-09-20-dns-wildcards.html and the response from Russell Lewis: http://www.icann.org/correspondence/lewis-to-twomey-21sep03.htm Mr. Lewis' response is interesting only if you believe VeriSign has the community's interest

ATTBI/Comcast issue

2003-09-22 Thread Tony Varriale
If someone on this list is from ATTBI/Comcast, could you please contact me offline regarding a chronic issue present since about March/April? I've had multiple tickets open and spoke with 2 "supervisors", and no one will address/take responsibility of the problem. Thanks, Tony

Re: Operations notification manager software

2003-09-22 Thread Justin Shore
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:23:35AM -0500, > Justin Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a message of 20 lines which said: > > > > What software is available/recommended for NOC contact > > > management? > > > > I've used Nagios (formerly NetS

Re: VeriSign SMTP reject server updated

2003-09-22 Thread Jack Bates
Matt Larson wrote: In response to this feedback, we have deployed an alternate SMTP implementation using Postfix that should address many of the concerns we've heard. Like snubby, this server rejects any mail sent to it (by returning 550 in response to any number of RCPT TO commands). Matt, The

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Owen DeLong
--On Monday, September 22, 2003 12:41 PM +0100 Richard Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 22 Sep 2003 10:45 "Stephen J. Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What if MS included something in the Windows Update that gave the user | the option of calling a toll-free number operated by MS for the pu

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Owen DeLong
Realise that this would require MS to take responsibility for putting out bad code. That's quite unlikely, IMO. Hmm no, they dont have to take that approach, they currently provide updates as part of their license agreement to users, this would just be an enhancement of their existing facility o

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Owen DeLong
Ok then different idea, assuming that we're all agreed its MS's responsibility to ensure users are patched promptly and without extra cost to the end user. The problem is that while we agree, Micr0$0ft does not. They feel they should have no "responsibility" whatsoever to the end user beyond ch

RE: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal

2003-09-22 Thread Mike Damm
The webpage was very 'thrown together' so we could get to work on actually getting the servers built. Our policy is to provide clean versions of the COM and NET zones. Minus all of VeriSign's hackery. If you register a .com domain, it will appear in our zone, if you don't renew one, it disappear

Re: Providers removing blocks on port 135?

2003-09-22 Thread Jack Bates
Andy Walden wrote: I'm not necessarily making a statement one way or the other on port 25 filtering, but SMTP Auth, when properly configured and protected against brute force attacks is certainly a useful thing. YMMV of course. Keyloggers are popular in the same viruses that install open proxies.

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:45:13 -, "Stephen J. Wilcox" said: > Ok then different idea, assuming that we're all agreed its MS's responsibility > to ensure users are patched promptly and without extra cost to the end user. You agree. I agree. Microsoft doesn't agree, and based on the fact that t

Re: Operations notification manager software

2003-09-22 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Stephane Bortzmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [22/09/03 08:26]: > > > What software is available/recommended for NOC contact > > > management? > > > > I've used Nagios (formerly NetSaint) in the past and have been very > > impressed with it. > > I used Nagios and I fail to see what's the c

RE: Need help with Ex-Pat project

2003-09-22 Thread Douglas S. Peeples
Thank you to all who replied. I still need some more help, if you know anyone please have them email me directly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas S. Peeples Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Jerry Eyers
Microsoft already does this, it is their TechNet program.  They include all service packs and updates.  Unfortunately, they charge a whopping pile for the service, beyond the reach of most home/dial users.   Jerry   ---Original Message---   From: Stephen J. Wilcox Date: Monday, Septe

Re: Verisign's Threat to Infrastructure Stability

2003-09-22 Thread william
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Niels Bakker wrote: > Root server operators aren't the droids you're looking for. The net and > com TLDs are just that - TLDs, not the root zone; they're in the root > zone because they're TLDs but authority has been delegated away from the > root server operators. Yes, I th

Re: Operations notification manager software

2003-09-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 12:23:35AM -0500, Justin Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 20 lines which said: > > What software is available/recommended for NOC contact > > management? > > I've used Nagios (formerly NetSaint) in the past and have been very > impressed with it. I used N

[Administrativia] Posting rules: are messages silently dropped?

2003-09-22 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
Messages I send from an email address which is not subscribed to nanog-post are apparently silently dropped. I do not receive a bounce (like it is typically the case when a list is closed) but, according to the archives, they are not distributed either (which may be good for the S/N ratio but I di

Re: Riverhead or Lancope?

2003-09-22 Thread Michael Martin
I have been using Lancope for alomost two years. They have developed a very effective complementary approach to the signature based systems I have been evaluating (SNORT, ISS, SOURCEFIRE, CISCO) using. The latest software release has also provided a number of key enhancements that allow the tool

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Cox
On 22 Sep 2003 10:45 "Stephen J. Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | What if MS included something in the Windows Update that gave the user | the option of calling a toll-free number operated by MS for the purpose | of downloading.. ? Toll free - in many cases international - with 56k lines max

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Roy Bentley wrote: > Stephen J. Wilcox said: > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:50 EDT, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> > >> > "I recently put this suggestion to Microsoft and their response basically > >> > avoided the

Re: Verisign's Threat to Infrastructure Stability

2003-09-22 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Akin) [Mon 22 Sep 2003, 01:04 CEST]: > FWIW: > > To: The Department of Homeland Security > Sent (via dhs.gov site form) > Dated: 21 Sep 2003 14:24:37 - [..] > > DHS would be well advised to consider the potential threat that > Internet unpredictability has on this c

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Roy Bentley
Stephen J. Wilcox said: > > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:50 EDT, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > "I recently put this suggestion to Microsoft and their response >> basically >> > avoided the whole issue. Why wouldn't the company want t

Re: Riverhead or Lancope?

2003-09-22 Thread Ariel Biener
On Monday 22 September 2003 11:13, John Obi wrote: > Nanogers, > > Did you ever tested Riverhead or Lancope? I know > rackspace uses one or both of them. > > Are they good products and worth the try? We use Riverhead at IIUCC/ILAN (AS378) to protect the .il root name servers, it is active for a

Re: ICANN asks VeriSign to pull redirect service

2003-09-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
I agree In addition I'm not convinced that operated of each GTLD cannot be carried out by more than one organisation. The only requirement is to ensure the uniqueness of the data, there are multiple ways of achieving this without havnig to elect some one as the master.. Steve On Sun, 21 Se

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:50 EDT, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > "I recently put this suggestion to Microsoft and their response basically > > avoided the whole issue. Why wouldn't the company want to offer such a CD, > > assuming tha

Re: Windows updates and dial up users

2003-09-22 Thread Jonathan Hunter
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: > "It occurred to me that one way to make things easier for dial-up users, > and even broadband users in many cases, would be to issue periodic update > CDs. Imagine a disc with all of the updates on it and a program, it could > even be written in Windows

Re: VeriSign SMTP reject server updated

2003-09-22 Thread Richard Cox
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:42:51 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Meanwhile, I would have diverted a copy of the mailserver | communications at the Ethernet switch to a secret server that | does the actual logging of addresses and messages. | | Son of Carnivore? Son? or Brother? See: http://lists.

Re: VeriSign SMTP reject server updated

2003-09-22 Thread Michael . Dillon
>> Wrong protocol. There should be *NO* SMTP transactions for >> non-extistant domains. >After being bit by this over the weekend I would have to agree, due to >a screwup at netSOL a companies domain I manage was resolving to their >sitefinder service, and all mail just went *poof*. At anytim

Re: VeriSign SMTP reject server updated

2003-09-22 Thread Michael . Dillon
>before we deployed root-delegation-only here, i was also annoyed that my >e-mail tool could not tell me about misspelled domain names at "send" time >and i had to wait for the wildcard mail servers to bounce the traffic. In other words, Verisign is actually increasing the amount of misspelled

Riverhead or Lancope?

2003-09-22 Thread John Obi
Nanogers, Did you ever tested Riverhead or Lancope? I know rackspace uses one or both of them. Are they good products and worth the try? Can they really decrease the the DDoS damage? Are they better than CISCO products? Are there any tips? Thanks, -J __ Do y

Re: When is Verisign's registry contract up for renewal

2003-09-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> DNS piracy is DNS piracy if Verisign gets away with it others will have a go too brandon