Re: Tomatoes for Verisign at NANOG 29

2003-10-16 Thread Owen DeLong
I think that the number of people showing that they oppose Verisign would still carry the day on the meaning of the tomatoes and red shirts. Verisign could try to delude themselves into believing it was ambiguous, but, I don't think the press or the attendees would buy it. Also, I don't think

Operational content, snr and nanog mailing list...

2003-10-16 Thread Joel Jaeggli
By my count there have been 23 odd messages in which the subject contains the word tomatoes, this is out of 96 messages I've recieved on this list since midnight pdt. Isn't there something more useful people on this list could be doing. joelja --

RE: Tomatoes for Verisign at NANOG 29

2003-10-16 Thread Dave Hilton
In reference to some earlier politically active days: Hey! Hey! Ver - i - sign ! How Many Domains Do You Think Are Thine? Hilton

Re: [Fwd: [IP] VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Vixie
lots of misconceptions here today. declan, you ought to pay closer attention. verisign didn't say at the meeting yesterday that they were planning to revive the redirect service, in fact they used the term if or when when describing their plans in that area. furthermore they did not commit to a

Pitfalls of _accepting_ /24s

2003-10-16 Thread jlewis
On the topic of announcing PA /24's, what procedures do you take to make sure that a new customer who want's to announce a few PA (P being one or more P's other than yourself) IP space is legit and should be announcing that IP space? I'm not sure what they do internally, but I know Sprint,

Backdoor Trojan behind BigPond, Internet spam woes

2003-10-16 Thread Sean Donelan
http://www.zdnet.com.au/newstech/security/story/0,248600,20279775,00.htm Backdoor Trojan behind BigPond, Internet spam woes By Andrew Colley, ZDNet Australia 15 October 2003 U.S.-based Internet security researchers have confirmed that a worm is behind the sharp jump in spam activity

Re: [Fwd: [IP] VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread ken emery
On 16 Oct 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: Good writeup Paul. SNIP To change this: what else can we do to prevent this? Does the last BIND version truly break sitefinder? in my last conversation with a verisign executive, i learned that there is a widely held misconception that the last BIND

Re: [Fwd: [IP] VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Vixie
i just got done reading http://news.com.com/2008-7347_3-5092590.html, so now at least i know why my phone was ringing so much earlier today. anyway, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ken emery) quotes me as saying... let me just emphasize that the default is OFF. BIND doesn't break sitefinder; nameserver

RE: [Fwd: [IP] VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Vivien M.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Vixie Sent: October 16, 2003 7:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Fwd: [IP] VeriSign to revive redirect service] ken is right and i apologize for the confusion. most of the early

RE: Pitfalls of _accepting_ /24s

2003-10-16 Thread Terry Baranski
jlewis wrote: On the topic of announcing PA /24's, what procedures do you take to make sure that a new customer who want's to announce a few PA (P being one or more P's other than yourself) IP space is legit and should be announcing that IP space? I'm also interested in hearing current

Re: [Fwd: [IP] VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Jack Bates
Paul Vixie wrote: While I agree that handling of NXDOMAIN needs to improve, such handling must be done by the application. Popular browsers have already started ... i think i agree with where this was going, but it would be a fine thing if we all stop calling this NXDOMAIN. the proper term is

Re: VeriSign to Sell Network Solutions Business

2003-10-16 Thread Henry Linneweh
That is a positive note, hopefully the new group will give us a public statement of its intentions. -HenryMark Vallar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just got this email from Network Solutions...Hm--mvalFrom: Network Solutions, Inc.[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:31

RE: Pitfalls of _accepting_ /24s

2003-10-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
A proposal was made some years ago, which I thought was by Tony Li, but, IIRC, he says it wasn't original with him. It does require cooperation from competitors, but can reduce the number of announcements. Under some circumstances, it may cause blackholing, but so can /24 filtering. The idea

instead of tomatoes

2003-10-16 Thread David Lesher
May I suggest. pumpkins A pumpkin per complainant would make a nice visual symbol, one the press could grasp. And afterwards, they could be donated -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX

Re: Site Finder

2003-10-16 Thread Michael Moscovitch
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: Yes, I will heartily agree with this. Having this functionality be triggered by a wildcard in the DNS records is the wrong approach. It's the application that should be taking care of this if (NXDOMAIN) redirect(preferences-sitefinder_host,

Re: Operational content, snr and nanog mailing list...

2003-10-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Showing our displeasure to Verisign (and potentially getting media coverage which explains why nanog-l posters are mad at verisign) is indeed operational... Unless you enjoy monopolistic corporations breaking significant features of the Internet without prior notice? At 03:30 PM 10/16/2003

Re: Tomatoes for Verisign at NANOG 29

2003-10-16 Thread Dan Riley
Gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having been a part of many fraternity pranks along this line, I might remind some of a glitch with this line of thinking. VeriSign employees read this list. (Verisign shows up with tomatoes red I love VeriSign shirts saying if you like the idea...wear shirt

Re: Site Finder

2003-10-16 Thread Robert Boyle
At 09:27 PM 10/16/2003, you wrote: I agree that an application level solution at the edge is the best. I like the idea of having a user configurable parameter in the client browser to allow the ``finder'' URL to be set. The browser ``manufacturer'' would of course put their own default and the

Re: Tomatoes for Verisign at NANOG 29

2003-10-16 Thread Matt Levine
On Oct 16, 2003, at 9:39 PM, Dan Riley wrote: snip And write your congressmen to explain how Verisign is abusing a government granted monopoly to stop others (including M$ and AOL) from innovating at the edge, because that's where this is headed--Verisign is ultimately counting on having better

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