Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread David Lesher
Someone claiming to be me said: > http://www.tux.org/wb8foz/ > > It's a building near the Hill. > > There's a fiber mux in there somewhere. Other switches are > hanging from duct tape above... ooops -- sorry... -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PR

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > Now that you've educated the world about messy cabling jobs that should _not_ be > done, > perhaps you or someone else should now post _CLEAN_ cabling jobs that everyone should > follow examples of :-) > > Thanks for the good pi

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread David Lesher
http://www.tux.org/wb8foz/ It's a building near the Hill. There's a fiber mux in there somewhere. Other switches are hanging from duct tape above... -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] & no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (t

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Richard Irving
Sharif Torpis wrote: > uh-oh, what's this? > > http://new.onecall.net/timages/wanrack.jpg Hehehe.. :} The -old- building, and Telecom WAN room, circa early 1990's, late 1980's, and a bank of auto-ops from before the time when there was such a thing as a 1U server. "new".onecall.net is ac

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Richard Irving
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: Richard Irving wrote: http://new.onecall.net/timages/cat5patch.jpg Is that one really Cat. 5 compliant? (Tails out of the sheath look too long one some of them.) Routine "Spin Downs" created that (extended) Telco standard, we just carried it over to Data structu

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread John Kinsella
Always liked the work my fellow coworkers at Globix used to do - I don't have any shots of SJC or NYC online (too bad - a few projects I went to alot of trouble on to show the rest how it should be done ;) ), but here's one of our demo panels from LHR: http://thrashyour.com/lhr1-wiringdemo.jpg A

Re: 25,000 ton amphibious spam relay

2003-12-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Swaar, Matthew L. writes on 12/16/2003 3:52 PM: E-mailing the DOD-CERT is also another way to try to get these things fixed. (...I'm not 100% certain that getting this fixed was the point of this, but I figured I'd point that out on the off chance.) I'm forwarding the header information of this

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Richard Irving
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that you've educated the world about messy cabling jobs that should _not_ be done, perhaps you or someone else should now post _CLEAN_ cabling jobs that everyone should follow examples of :-) http://new.onecall.net/timages/dsxcabling.jpg http://new.onecall.net/timage

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread haesu
Now that you've educated the world about messy cabling jobs that should _not_ be done, perhaps you or someone else should now post _CLEAN_ cabling jobs that everyone should follow examples of :-) Thanks for the good pictures btw. Some of them are actually funny hehe On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 03:1

ping GUS.NET

2003-12-16 Thread Christopher Chin
Hello, Is GUS Network America (GUS.NET) represented here, or does anyone have a live contact? Neither the ARIN nor whois POC have been repsonsive. Off-list replies will be appreciated. Thanks, - Christopher ==

RE: 25,000 ton amphibious spam relay

2003-12-16 Thread Swaar, Matthew L.
E-mailing the DOD-CERT is also another way to try to get these things fixed. (...I'm not 100% certain that getting this fixed was the point of this, but I figured I'd point that out on the off chance.) I'm forwarding the header information of this spam to the appropriate folks. V/R, Matthew Sw

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, John Kinsella wrote: > Another suggestion, although I'd be surprised to see it...anybody got > a shot from under PBI's datacenter floor when it was at 2nd and Folsom > in SF (across 2nd from SNFC21)? Heh, its actually in SF21 now. I got to see it a few months ago, I believe I

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
Charles Sprickman said: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Grant A. Kirkwood wrote: > >> Someone in our office (who'll remain nameless) took these yesterday: >> >> http://www.tnarg.org/mmr.html > > What does this sign say? > > http://www.tnarg.org/mmr_pics/100_0118.JPG NOTICE WHEN RUNNING FIBER THROUGH THIS

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Grant A. Kirkwood wrote: > Someone in our office (who'll remain nameless) took these yesterday: > > http://www.tnarg.org/mmr.html What does this sign say? http://www.tnarg.org/mmr_pics/100_0118.JPG And are we looking up, down, left, right... I just can't figure out what t

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread John Kinsella
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:32:44AM -0800, Christopher McCrory wrote: > Maybe someone here has pictures of the meetme room at one wilshire from > the last several years. By far the messiest cabling I have ever seen in > any datacenter. (but it's getting better :) Another suggestion, although I'd

Re: 25,000 ton amphibious spam relay

2003-12-16 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200312/msg00070.html > [misc deleted] Wow, just wait. BMW iDrive systems will get internet dongles and soon be able to relay spam, 150Mph smooth autobahn cruising spam relays.

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
Christopher McCrory said: > > Hello... > > > On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 15:12, Eric Kuhnke wrote: >> Sometimes illustrating the way a job should *not* be done is a powerful >> educational tool. I have collected a gallery of messy and ridiculous >> cabling jobs: >> > > Maybe someone here has pictures

25,000 ton amphibious spam relay

2003-12-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200312/msg00070.html = At 09:59 AM 12/16/2003, Rich Kulawiec wrote: [ Doesn't it just make you feel all safe and cozy when the people responsible for our defense are allowing military hardware to be hija

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread SG
Christopher, > > Hello... > Maybe someone here has pictures of the meetme room at one wilshire from > the last several years. By far the messiest cabling I have ever seen in > any datacenter. (but it's getting better :) > Someone did take some pictures and were posted today ;) > -- > Chr

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-16 Thread Christopher McCrory
Hello... On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 15:12, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Sometimes illustrating the way a job should *not* be done is a powerful > educational tool. I have collected a gallery of messy and ridiculous > cabling jobs: > Maybe someone here has pictures of the meetme room at one wilshire fro

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2003-12-16 Thread Chris Woodfield
Can someone make sure that a proper supply of torches and pickaxes is requisitioned for the excusrsion to Boca Raton? -C - Forwarded message from Carol Wadsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:50:11 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PRO

NANOG 30 Meeting Information

2003-12-16 Thread Carol Wadsworth
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Re: Root Authority

2003-12-16 Thread Henry Linneweh
Trying to remember back that far is quite a task , the greatest authority of the time was Jon Postal since he had the uncanny ability to remember all of the things that made it work, so when he spoke it was like Moses coming down from the mountain presenting the 10 commandments and everyone agreed

Re: Root Authority

2003-12-16 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Paul Vixie wrote: > > > An interesting question I've dealt with a few times: > > > > From whom do the root nameservers derive their authority? > > we (i'm speaking for f-root here) have no "authority". nobody has to > listen to us, we are the most powerless bunch of folks you'll ever meet. > >

Re: Root Authority

2003-12-16 Thread Michael . Dillon
>> Sorry Mr Bush. We derive our authority from the old IANA, who >> assigned out the exiting roots. >No, that's who *appointed* you. However, you derive your actual >authority from all the named.ca hints files that point to you. Valdis is right. I suppose I could repeat my post about the free

Re: Root Authority

2003-12-16 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 16.12 07:14, Paul Vixie wrote: > we (i'm speaking for f-root here) have no "authority". nobody has to > listen to us, we are the most powerless bunch of folks you'll ever meet. > > now if you'd asked where we derive our *relevance*, i'd say the same as > mr. bush and mr. kletnieks -- from all

Re: Root Authority

2003-12-16 Thread Paul Vixie
> An interesting question I've dealt with a few times: > > From whom do the root nameservers derive their authority? we (i'm speaking for f-root here) have no "authority". nobody has to listen to us, we are the most powerless bunch of folks you'll ever meet. now if you'd asked where we derive