Re: Anyone from AS 577 (BellNexxia) around ?

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
Having dealt with them for some time, the public interfaces to the Bell object have not really changed one way or another. This is from my perspective as a consumer of Bell wholesale services... The same main help desks are there-- AOC, INOC, DSSC. Despite the host name being bell nexxia it i

Re: Anyone from AS 577 (BellNexxia) around ?

2003-12-19 Thread Gordon Cook
the mirror may be gone because, according to Francois menard, bell nexxia was disbanded by bell canada in april or may 2003 and absorbed back into bell canada's operations I asked through regular channels, but no one knew the answer. You used to have a looking glass at http://looking-glas

Anyone from AS 577 (BellNexxia) around ?

2003-12-19 Thread Mike Tancsa
I asked through regular channels, but no one knew the answer. You used to have a looking glass at http://looking-glass.in.bellnexxia.net:8080/ but its been offline for a while. Did it move ? Is it gone for good ? ---Mike -

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread E.B. Dreger
R> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:05:55 -0800 R> From: Roy (CC list trimmed) R> Media converters are much cheaper than specialized FX cards R> like these. A 10Mbps converters are just $99 each and 100Mbps R> is $150. Definitely more attractive than the work needed to prevent ground loops when usin

RE: Low end router alternative?

2003-12-19 Thread Robert Boyle
At 05:18 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Ejay Hire wrote: > Lucent Pipeline 130, Superpipe 95, or Superpipe 155. Well 2 minutes on Froogle tell me your definition of cheap and mine don't match. For the same price range I would get a netopia R4522 or 5300 which will reliably do NAT

[OT] Level3, 111 8th

2003-12-19 Thread Charles Sprickman
Hello, Given that our L3 rep is useless for this information, perhaps another customer of L3 @ 1118th (3rd floor) can help me out. We are ordering our first cross-connect to the meet-me room since I've arrived, and I'm wondering how to specify the location to the vendors. We're dropping a POTS l

RE: Low end router alternative?

2003-12-19 Thread David Langlands
Technically speaking, the port is definitely not a HSSI port. HSSI is ~ 52mbps and used for DS-3 and E3. You're probably looking for a v.35 interface, EIA-422/485, or similar interface to match your CSU. Dave -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, De

RE: Low end router alternative?

2003-12-19 Thread Gerald
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Gerald wrote: > With a little more research, I think I can better clarify that I'm looking > for just about any router (<$50-100) that has a HSSI port and an RJ45 You ever hit send and then wish you could chase after that E-mail with a s/HSSI/v.35/ ? I was wrongly using the

RE: Low end router alternative?

2003-12-19 Thread Gerald
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Ejay Hire wrote: > Lucent Pipeline 130, Superpipe 95, or Superpipe 155. Well 2 minutes on Froogle tell me your definition of cheap and mine don't match. For the same price range I would get a netopia R4522 or 5300 which will reliably do NAT and all. With a little more resea

RE: Low end router alternative?

2003-12-19 Thread Ejay Hire
Lucent Pipeline 130, Superpipe 95, or Superpipe 155. Cheap, Reasonably reliable, no external CSU-DSU required. Personally, I won't run Nat on them. It's been my experience that 9 out of 10 will work fine with Nat, but 1 will have odd problems and require reboots. -Ejay > -Original Message-

Low end router alternative?

2003-12-19 Thread Gerald
I'm experimenting at home with hardware. I'm playing with low end T1 equipment at the moment. What is a low-cost router solution to hook to a CSU/DSU? (where I don't have to pay a ridiculous $800+ IOS relicensing fee preferably.) With Cisco 2500's going on Ebay for $10-$30, I'd like to find somet

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread jlewis
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Randy Bush wrote: > > > PA-2FE-FX$5000/card$25.00/Mbit > > $2,000 on ebay And for the 7500s, you can get POSIP full cards for $250-$1000 depending on fiber type, also from ebay. -- Jon Lewis [EM

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Joe Abley
On 19 Dec 2003, at 13:42, Bruce Robertson wrote: Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? No one send you a box of rocks? I've had 100% success buying on eBay. The Cisco TAC issue has never come up; they NEVER ask me where I got something. Maybe they will, now :-)

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Randy Bush
> Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? yep. use rating system > No one send you a box of rocks? nope > What about Cisco SPAR for TAC support? new cisco parts randy

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Brian Knoblauch
Interestingly enough, sometimes it's cheaper to buy a small unmanaged switch with a fiber uplink port than to buy a media converter... > -Original Message- > Media converters are much cheaper than specialized FX cards > like these. A > 10Mbps converters are just $99 each and 100

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread ken emery
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Roy wrote: > > Media converters are much cheaper than specialized FX cards like these. A > 10Mbps converters are just $99 each and 100Mbps is $150. Yes, but you need external power for these and they aren't monitorable/configurable from any interface. Thus if one goes down

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Roy
Media converters are much cheaper than specialized FX cards like these. A 10Mbps converters are just $99 each and 100Mbps is $150. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:13 AM To: Claydon, Tom Cc:

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Michel Py
> Fisher, Shawn > Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? > No one send you a box of rocks? That's the question the UPS driver once asked when delivering a 7507; the box did contain a router though and no rocks. > What about Cisco SPAR for TAC support? For some, it has come to a point where

Ebay experience

2003-12-19 Thread Gerald
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Fisher, Shawn wrote: > Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? No one send you a box of rocks? buying, selling you name it. Hardware on Ebay is usually less than anywhere else. WRT failures you can normally afford 2 or more from Ebay for the price difference of (buying e

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Bruce Robertson
> Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? No one send you a box of rocks? I've had 100% success buying on eBay. The Cisco TAC issue has never come up; they NEVER ask me where I got something. Of course, the only hardware that has ever failed on us has been exactly one Catalyst 2924 switch,

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Fisher, Shawn
Curiouos, you have success buying on Ebay? No one send you a box of rocks? What about Cisco SPAR for TAC support? -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:24 PM To: Stephen Sprunk Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes Subje

Increased activity on UDP/1434?

2003-12-19 Thread Bulger, Tim
Title: Message Is anyone seeing increased activity on UDP/1434?  We are seeing boxes which have been patched for SQL slammer spewing lots of traffic to randomized destination addresses for about 2 hours.  Intense googling has revealed nothing new since SQL slammer.  Any information would be

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Randy Bush
> PA-2FE-FX$5000/card$25.00/Mbit $2,000 on ebay randy

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Claydon, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yep. There's plenty of fiber between the two buildings, so we may go that > route. Anyone know if there's any easy way to limit bandwidth on the > PA-POS-OC3 adapters? PA-POS-OC3MM$6000/card$38.71/Mbit PA-FE-FX$3200/card$32.00/Mbit P

Cogent's claim of MFN fiber issues between PHL and DCA

2003-12-19 Thread Alex Yuriev
Hello, Can anyone confirm claims from Cogent that there is an MFN fiber issue between PHL and DCA that creates 10-15% packet loss? Simple test are pointing at the Cogtent not having enough capacity between PHL and DCA. According to Cogent that issue had been happening for several days now

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread sthaug
> The quite annoying thing about that is switching a PC-MC-2T3+ interface > from channelized (the default) to unchannelized causes a cbus complex > restart, which interrupts traffic through the router for a period of > time (the time varies based on the number of interfaces in the router). Even w

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Yep. There's plenty of fiber between the two buildings, so we may go that route. Anyone know if there's any easy way to limit bandwidth on the PA-POS-OC3 adapters? Sounds like another job for rate limiting to me... = TC -Original Message- From: David Lesher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Se

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Roy
Title: Message Wireless is fine too.  I use Airaya (http://www.airaya.com).  You can get a pair of radios capable of 35mbps for $999.  I have them working over 6 miles -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:49 AMTo:

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jared Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The PA-MC-2T3+ will do both channelized and unchannelized > DS3 with the same PA. > > This makes it easier on some of us who need both and for > doing sparing of hardware. It's worthwhile to spend the extra cash > if you think

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:45:08AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Mark E. Mallett wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: > > > Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in > > > a PA-MC-2T3+

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Jared Mauch
Incase you didn't notice, the original poster works for a Telephone Company. Such things as short distance x-connects, DS3, and other services will make the most sense as they likely have the necessary hardware and equipment to test and repair these types of cabling whereas, wirel

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > Roy wrote: > > > Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't > > overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m. > > I'd be cautious about metal between buildings, but Ethernet on > fiber might

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:36:08AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Yes, it's a point-to-point link. Somebody else mentioned ethernet; I know (without specific recommendation though) that you can run fiber and use some inexpensive media converters on each end to produce something tha

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Brennan_Murphy
Title: Message Or wireless. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RoySent: Friday, December 19, 2003 11:30 AMTo: Claydon, Tom; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Bandwidth Control Question Why waste a T3 port.  Run ethernet i

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:35:34AM -0500, Mark E. Mallett wrote: > On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in > > a PA-MC-2T3+ card for the 7206...I have at least four PA-MC-T3 cards, and > > they're

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Roy wrote: > Why waste a T3 port. Run ethernet if they are that close. Don't > overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m. I'd be cautious about metal between buildings, but Ethernet on fiber might make sense.

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Hi Mark, Yes, it's a point-to-point link. = TC -Original Message- From: Mark E. Mallett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 10:36 AM To: Claydon, Tom Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: Bandwidth Control Question On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydo

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Mark E. Mallett
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Claydon, Tom wrote: > Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in > a PA-MC-2T3+ card for the 7206...I have at least four PA-MC-T3 cards, and > they're not going to work the way I want them to (unless I rate-limit them). Th

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Roy
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Why waste a T3 port.  Run ethernet if they are that close.  Don't overlook the benefit of using the old thin-net for 200m.    -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Claydon, TomSent: Friday, December 19, 2003

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Title: RE: Bandwidth Control Question Thanks to everyone who responded. Looks like I'm going to have to invest in a PA-MC-2T3+ card for the 7206...I have at least four PA-MC-T3 cards, and they're not going to work the way I want them to (unless I rate-limit them). Thanks,   = TC   -- Tom Clay

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Dan Ellis
Thanks. I not very familiar with the integrated DSU T3/E3 command set - still used to the good ol HSSI ports. I'll agree, this sounds like a better solution if you are using one of the integrated cards. Yes - you are correct, in my solution both sides should always use a traffic-shape or oth

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Michel Py
> Bryan Heitman > Why not simply use configuration option Cisco gives > you to set your DS3 to 6 meg dsu bandwidth X That's what I do, works fine.   > Dan, your suggestion will unncessarily tax his equipment. Not only that, but the rate-limiting on the input interface will likely force the cust

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Bryan Heitman
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Why not simply use configuration option Cisco gives you to set your DS3 to 6 meg dsu bandwidth X   Dan, your suggestion will unncessarily tax his equipment.     Bryan - Original Message - From: Dan Ellis To: Claydon, Tom ; [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Charles H. Gucker
Tom, If you are using Cisco's on both ends, you can easily do: interface SerialX/0 bandwidth 6144 ip address 255.255.255.252 no ip redirects no ip directed-broadcast no ip proxy-arp load-interval 30 dsu bandwidth 6144 no dsu remote accept scramble cablelength 450 no cdp enab

RE: Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Dan Ellis
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Tom, My suggestion is to enable the full DS3 and have each router traffic-shape to 6M on the neighboring interfaces.  Rate-limit on the input of your router to disallow the customer from sending you more than the limit.  Remember that for the most part ra

Bandwidth Control Question

2003-12-19 Thread Claydon, Tom
Title: Bandwidth Control Question Hello, A customer of ours in the next building would like 6M of Internet bandwidth from us, so we would wire a DS3 between the two buildings for connectivity. The question is: how to we control the amount of bandwidth that we give them? Could we use rate li

The Cidr Report

2003-12-19 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Dec 19 21:47:30 2003 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table Hist