Lucent APX1000

2004-01-06 Thread Claydon, Tom
Does anyone here have experience with the APX1000? We just got one of these beasts (to replace two AS5300's), and I need some help on OSPF configurations (specifically, how to integrate it into our Cisco-based network). Thanks, = TC -- Tom Claydon, IT/ATM Network Engineer Dobson Telephone

GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread bcm
Hello all, I'm faced with a difficult decision. I work for a large multi-node regional ISP (and Cisco shop). In our largest nodes we've found the Cisco 7500 series routers to be at the end of their useful life due to the throughput generated by POS OC-3 feeds and 10,000+ broadband users

Re: example.com/net/org DNS records

2004-01-06 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Roger Marquis wrote: On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Doug Barton wrote: There's already been a lot of discussion about why this is a good thing, so I won't reiterate it all. Thanks Doug. Are those discussions available on the net? If so could you post the URL? The

RE: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Stong, Ian C. (Contractor)
Given that you are a Cisco shop and likely have a lot of OM money spent to support that vendor I would suggest you look closely at the 7600's to replace your 7500's. Great for low to medium density of port aggregation and hence good $/port ratio. Ian -Original Message- From: bcm

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
I'm faced with a difficult decision. I work for a large multi-node regional ISP (and Cisco shop). In our largest nodes we've found the Cisco 7500 series routers to be at the end of their useful life due to the throughput generated by POS OC-3 feeds and 10,000+ broadband users whose

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 01:11:25PM -0500, bcm wrote: Hello all, I'm faced with a difficult decision. I work for a large multi-node regional ISP (and Cisco shop). In our largest nodes we've found the Cisco 7500 series routers to be at the end of their useful life due to the

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, bcm wrote: But where to go? The Cisco GSR platform seems a logical choice, but their new 7600 series units are attractive for their cost. 7600's have all the craptacularity of 6500 switches, because thats what they are, I would reccomend against them. Buying GSR's is

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Alex Rubenstein
7500s? In 2004? Throw those things in the trash where they belong. It's always amazing to me how many people will cling to obsolete things for years just because it is what they know. Even a Juniper M5 will do 16 OC3's with line rate filtering and forwarding. There are probably a dozen

MLPPP Problem with Cisco 7513

2004-01-06 Thread Richard J. Sears
I am hoping someone can shed some light on an interesting problem we are having - When we set up a customer for MLPPP, things tend to go well for a period of time. Then - all of a sudden - we will begin to have problems with our multilink bundles (generally only one at a time) and the only fix

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 08:25:18PM -0500, Alex Rubenstein wrote: 7500s? In 2004? Throw those things in the trash where they belong. It's always amazing to me how many people will cling to obsolete things for years just because it is what they know. Even a Juniper M5 will do 16 OC3's

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Randy Bush
the thought of someone considering building new pops of 7500s still sends chills down my spine. it should bring cheer. remember, alex's suggestion is made and done by your competition. randy

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 08:25:18PM -0500, Alex Rubenstein wrote: find. 7507 + dual ps + rsp4 can be had for $1000 to $1500, and VIP2-50's can be had for $300. And then, you can use all the PA's you have laying around from your 7200's. Oh, also, on the subject of used market pricing... It's

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Robert Boyle
At 09:37 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: Oh, also, on the subject of used market pricing... It's been a while since I looked at Cisco ChDS3 PA pricing in any serious detail, but as I recall they were valued as though they were made of gold and personally blessed by Pope John Chambers when compared to

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Dan Armstrong
GSRs are useless if you are doing any kind of aggregation. Their traffic shaping abilities are embarrassing. 7500 is the classic aggregator. They do the job quite well, actually. Based on cost right now, I would take 10 7500s over 1 7600 anyday. For transit, though, I would use a Juniper -

RE: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Michel Py
Richard A Steenbergen wrote: I already have a very nice empty M160 chassis for a chair at the colo, I don't like it for a chair, too high (29); A 7500 is a lot better for that use. It's really nice as a heater too, particularly a dual AC loaded with legacy blades. Other possible uses for a

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 08:09:36PM -0800, Michel Py wrote: Cisco vs. Juniper: Whatever some people might say, everyone that uses both will tell you that the real picture is not Cisco=100% crap and Juniper=100% perfect :-) Besides, if you're a Cisco shop it's hard to find sound arguments to

Re: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-06 Thread Jeff Kell
Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Never under any condition let anyone tell you that Juniper is perfect... But, as everyone that uses both will tell you, it is better (at most things). They tend to be (in our experience) a set it and forget it thing, while you can spend considerable time tweaking