RE: GSR, 7600, Juniper M?, oh my!

2004-01-13 Thread David Schwartz
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 02:01:48AM +0100, Jesper Skriver wrote: That would depend what is causing the CPU usage. If it is software based IP header lookups, you're not going to get any more peformance out of it by trying to do more lookups than your CPU can handle. Surprisingly,

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others to pressure their peers. Two primary reasons

RE: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Michael Hallgren
Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others to pressure their peers. Two

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:33 AM, Michael Hallgren wrote: and that a large driver is to make your network look larger than it is... What audience?? Unfortunately, I've seen Peering Policies which require things like Must announce a minimum of 5,000 prefixes. :( -- TTFN, patrick

NISCC vulnerability note, Cisco advisory on H.323 issues

2004-01-13 Thread Huopio Kauto
Following documents are recommended reading: http://www.uniras.gov.uk/vuls/2004/006489/h323.htm http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20040113-h323.shtml --Kauto Kauto Huopio - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Information Security Adviser / CERT-FI -coordinator Finnish Communications Regulatory

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Randy Bush
Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others to pressure their peers. or just filter

Ethernet LayerOne Dallas

2004-01-13 Thread Beprojects.com
If there are any sales-types that can offer Ethernet connectivity at the LayerOne facility on Bryan St in Dallas, please contact me off-list. Thanks.

Re: Ethernet LayerOne Dallas

2004-01-13 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 10:17:47AM -0600, Beprojects.com wrote: If there are any sales-types that can offer Ethernet connectivity at the LayerOne facility on Bryan St in Dallas, please contact me off-list. Thanks. Attention NANOG, Sales type inquiries belong on isp-bandwidth. For more

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Jan 13, 2004, at 9:58 AM, Randy Bush wrote: Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread haesu
The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others to pressure their peers. Educating customers... educating peers... I think enough had been tried and that is just too much work for the most people with little effect. The problem is the

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 12:26:59PM -0500, Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: On Jan 13, 2004, at 9:58 AM, Randy Bush wrote: Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Steve Francis
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others to pressure their

RE: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread McBurnett, Jim
Ok, I am often outgunned and off target here. But I have to ask this: 1. If filtering is used, as suggested by someone, what happens to the small/mid-sized company that is multi-homed out of an ISP's /20 or larger block? In this case, I can see an ISP with a /20 bust

Re: router design (was Re: /24s run amuck)

2004-01-13 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 02:12:13PM -0500, Craig Partridge wrote: The basic issue here is the huge difference between a nice, dense, slow and relatively cool [cheap!] DRAM and very fast, not so dense, and pretty hot [and very expensive] SRAM. That Dell server has DRAM. Your route processor

Re: Good network sniffer?

2004-01-13 Thread Sean McPherson
I'm amazed no one mentioned Etheral works just fine under Windows (well, at least it runs as well as any OTHER Windows software seems to, let's put it like that). I guess those of use lucky enough to use Linux/Unix/*BSD etc forget there are other, less fortunates out there :) You can install

Re: Good network sniffer?

2004-01-13 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
According to this paper http://luca.ntop.org/Ring.pdf, you may be the lucky one, instead of unfortunate users of out-of-the-box *nix libpcap implementations. The good thing with open-source is the room to improve, as the solution presented on the paper shows. Rubens - Original Message

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Jan 13, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Steve Francis wrote: I'll take some education - given two POP's, different upstream ISPs at each POP, and a desire to have traffic for specific networks (/24) enter a specific POP, can that be done without de-aggregation? We are not doing this ourselves - we're not

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Jan 13, 2004, at 2:35 PM, McBurnett, Jim wrote: Ok, I am often outgunned and off target here. But I have to ask this: 1. If filtering is used, as suggested by someone, what happens to the small/mid-sized company that is multi-homed out of an ISP's /20 or larger block? In this

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Steve Francis
Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: On Jan 13, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Steve Francis wrote: I'll take some education - given two POP's, different upstream ISPs at each POP, and a desire to have traffic for specific networks (/24) enter a specific POP, can that be done without de-aggregation? We are not doing

RE: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Vadim Antonov
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Michael Hallgren wrote: On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:33 AM, Michael Hallgren wrote: Unfortunately, I've seen Peering Policies which require things like Must announce a minimum of 5,000 prefixes. :( Wonderful... mh Easy to fix by changing to covering N million

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Jan 13, 2004, at 3:58 PM, Steve Francis wrote: Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: On Jan 13, 2004, at 2:19 PM, Steve Francis wrote: I'll take some education - given two POP's, different upstream ISPs at each POP, and a desire to have traffic for specific networks (/24) enter a specific POP, can that

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Jan 13, 2004, at 4:04 PM, Vadim Antonov wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Michael Hallgren wrote: On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:33 AM, Michael Hallgren wrote: Unfortunately, I've seen Peering Policies which require things like Must announce a minimum of 5,000 prefixes. :( Wonderful... mh Easy to fix by

One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I am hearing reports of a power failure in downtown los angeles, particularly the One Wilshire building. One uncorroborated report says that the entire building just switched to generator power several minutes ago. Does anyone in 818 have more information?

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread John Palmer
And then there are the upstreams that filter legacy /24's Seen that too... - Original Message - From: Patrick W.Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Patrick Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 15:13 Subject: Re: /24s run amuck On Jan 13, 2004,

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Frank Louwers
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:12:13PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Answer: You don't. This is the type of deaggregation which is a necessary evil. And, IMHO, why filtering on /20 (or whatever) is a Bad Thing. You have just as much right to multiple upstreams as the Filtering on a /20

Re: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Matt Levine
On Jan 13, 2004, at 4:14 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I am hearing reports of a power failure in downtown los angeles, particularly the One Wilshire building. One uncorroborated report says that the entire building just switched to generator power several minutes ago. Does anyone in 818 have

RE: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Joel Perez
Yes they did lose power. I have a presence there and I saw the hit on some of my equipment. Not directly on my equipment but 2 of my POS circuits went down. No word yet if they are still on Generator or not. Regards, -- Joel Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
Eric Kuhnke said: I am hearing reports of a power failure in downtown los angeles, particularly the One Wilshire building. One uncorroborated report says that the entire building just switched to generator power several minutes ago. Does anyone in 818 have more information? Confirmed. One

Re: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Avleen Vig
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 04:29:43PM -0500, Matt Levine wrote: I am hearing reports of a power failure in downtown los angeles, particularly the One Wilshire building. One uncorroborated report says that the entire building just switched to generator power several minutes ago. Does anyone

RE: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
Joel Perez said: Yes they did lose power. I have a presence there and I saw the hit on some of my equipment. Not directly on my equipment but 2 of my POS circuits went down. No word yet if they are still on Generator or not. All GBLX circuits served by their MMR switch have been down since

Re: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Deaggregation is at an all time high, I have raised this publically in some forums and IXP ops lists. Response is poor, action is non-existent. The only way I can see to do anything about this is for upstreams to educate their customers and others to pressure their peers. I'll take

Re: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Arman
1 W is down and so is most of downtown LA. We have a presence in 1 W and 530 West 6th Street are currently running on Generator power. This appears to be a large outage effecting most of downtown LA. arman Joel Perez wrote: Yes they did lose power. I have a presence there and I saw the hit on

OT: Re: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Gerald
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Grant A. Kirkwood wrote: Confirmed. One Wilshire, 818 W. 7th, 600 W. 7th, 600 Wilshire, etc.. are all on generator at this time. We can see smoke from generators in many directions, not sure how widespread it is yet. Hmph, I was trying to figure out where this was ;-)

RE: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Colin Brown
Title: RE: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure? any word on 1200 west 7th Street? Colin Brown Sr. Network Engineer ITXC Corp [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Arman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:50 PM To: Joel Perez Cc: [EMAIL

RE: /24s run amuck

2004-01-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
1. If filtering is used, as suggested by someone, what happens to the small/mid-sized company that is multi-homed out of an ISP's /20 or larger block? In this case, I can see an ISP with a /20 bust that up to /21s smaller to accommodate this user. 2. Wasn't /24 filtering

Re: One Wilshire building / Downtown LA power failure?

2004-01-13 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Jan 13, 2004 at 05:07:04PM -0500, Colin Brown wrote: any word on 1200 west 7th Street? I haven't noticed anything. Also spoke to someone over there and they mentioned the lights flickering for a second - however they are apparently not on generator power. -- Since when is skepticism

Sprint Netop contact?

2004-01-13 Thread McBurnett, Jim
hi, I am seing root shell attempts and SNMP (Approx 1200 in an hour) sweeps coming from what appears to be a netops system at Sprint. If someone from there is online, Please drop me a line offlist... Thanks, Jim