RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefind er)

2004-02-27 Thread Pendergrass, Greg
OT I know, but this has to be the quote of the week: Working the ICANN process is like being nibbled to death by ducks, it takes forever, it doesn't make sense, and in the end we're still dead in the water. said Tom Galvin, VeriSign's vice president for government relations. With oratory like

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Not, I hasten to add, that I support Sitefinder or WLS (although I think I like consolidate). But what I like isn't the issue. Even if having Just to recap here, this thread plus the articles I'm reading miss one of the major points (a commercial one essentialy).. Verisign is really two

Re: Best Common Practice - Listening to local routes from peers?

2004-02-27 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Michael Smith wrote: We have a customer of a customer who is attempting to send traffic from IP space we control, through the Internet and back into us via one of our transit connections. I have filters in place that block all inbound traffic from the blocks I

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Michael . Dillon
[1] Should VoIP include 911/999 service, and how does one resolve the various geographic location issues associated with this. Anyone who claims to answer this one should consider the how to handle the case of a British subscriber to a VoIP service who travels to the USA, Canada, all over

The Cidr Report

2004-02-27 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 27 21:48:07 2004 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table

RE: IPv6 reverse lookup - lame delegation?

2004-02-27 Thread Jeroen Massar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Nico Schottelius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I am more or less new to nanog (reading it about half a year), so please correct me, if I do something wrong. Jeroen Massar [Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 02:07:27PM +0100]: Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino

Re: Best Common Practice - Listening to local routes from peers?

2004-02-27 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Feb 27, 2004, at 1:21 AM, James Edwards wrote: On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 21:22, Michael Smith wrote: Hello: We have a customer of a customer who is attempting to send traffic from IP space we control, through the Internet and back into us via one of our transit connections. Gotta ask, Why ?

RE: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Mark Jeftovic
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Verisign is really two entities wrt .com/net - it is the registry and the registrar. As a registrar it occupies the same position as the many other registrars.. tucows, melbourne, joker etc .. as a registry it occupies a privileged position in

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
Verisign is really two entities wrt .com/net - it is the registry and the registrar. Verisign Registrar, aka Network Solutions, was sold off to Pivotal Private Equity last Fall. Other lines of analysis to attempt: o what are registry services and what are not. o if a

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Paul Jakma
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Canada and the USA they would dial 911 In the UK they would dial 999 In Europe they would dial 112 or possibly one of the various legacy national numbers for emergency service. And in Australia they would dial 000. Do you route all these

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Alex Bligh
--On 27 February 2004 13:39 + Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a perfect job for anycast. Because you always want to get to an E911 service in the same AS number... (seriously, read the sip sipping w/gs) Alex

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Paul Jakma
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Alex Bligh wrote: Because you always want to get to an E911 service in the same AS number... You do or you dont? I dont see why anycast addresses need or need not be restricted to same AS. (seriously, read the sip sipping w/gs) Havnt got the time. :) Unless you have

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Alex Bligh
--On 27 February 2004 14:52 + Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you always want to get to an E911 service in the same AS number... You do or you dont? I dont see why anycast addresses need or need not be restricted to same AS. Anycast topology tends to follow AS topology, as

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:37:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: P.S. I think a solution lies in the general direction of converting the entire world to use 112 for emergency services and having the VoIP services set up an automated system that rings back whenever your phone connects using a

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Sam Stickland
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. I think a solution lies in the general direction of converting the entire world to use 112 for emergency services and having the VoIP services set up an automated system that rings back whenever your phone connects using a different IP address and asks you

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Crist Clark
Sam Stickland wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. I think a solution lies in the general direction of converting the entire world to use 112 for emergency services and having the VoIP services set up an automated system that rings back whenever your phone connects using a different IP address

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Petri Helenius
Crist Clark wrote: To steer a little ways back on topic, perhaps looking at the standards for how mobile phones deal with emergency services is better analogue for mobile IP phones than how POTS does things. Install SRV records to the reverse zone to give you emergency, directory, etc.

Re: Best Common Practice - Listening to local routes from peers?

2004-02-27 Thread james
: Also, and perhaps more importantly, if the customer's line to his : network drops, should the customer be incapable of getting to content : hosted on his network? Simple. I am not going to break something all the time to counter something that might break every once and a while. When Nagios

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:42:32 +0200, Petri Helenius said: Unless you are the rare beast with Mobile IP this would probably work alright in 99% of the cases. 20 years ago, 911 was able to say unless you're the rare beast with a cell phone, basing it on the physical service address that the

Re: Best Common Practice - Listening to local routes from peers?

2004-02-27 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Feb 27, 2004, at 1:51 PM, james wrote: : Also, and perhaps more importantly, if the customer's line to his : network drops, should the customer be incapable of getting to content : hosted on his network? Simple. I am not going to break something all the time to counter something that might

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Petri Helenius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 20 years ago, 911 was able to say unless you're the rare beast with a cell phone, basing it on the physical service address that the copper runs to would probably work alright in 99% of the cases. Let's not make the same mistake again. So all IP phones should be

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:19:48 +0200, Petri Helenius said: So all IP phones should be outside of buildings and equipped with GPS or Galileo receivers? I can think of plenty of buildings where you'd want the GPS even inside if feasible. Think any mall or office buil;ding over 250K square

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Petri Helenius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:19:48 +0200, Petri Helenius said: So all IP phones should be outside of buildings and equipped with GPS or Galileo receivers? I can think of plenty of buildings where you'd want the GPS even inside if feasible. Think any mall or office

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Jeff Shultz
** Reply to message from Petri Helenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:19:48 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 20 years ago, 911 was able to say unless you're the rare beast with a cell phone, basing it on the physical service address that the copper runs to would probably work

RE: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Wesley Vaux
Mobile IP phones will be the same as everything else. For different roaming areas you'll get a different IP address and the services will be handled that way. I think someone will come out with it as soon as they figure out how to put together a worldwide network that will support it. I don't

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:42:32 +0200, Petri Helenius said: Unless you are the rare beast with Mobile IP this would probably work alright in 99% of the cases. 20 years ago, 911 was able to say unless you're the rare beast with a cell phone, basing it on the physical

Re: Lawsuit on ICANN (was: Re: A few words on VeriSign's sitefinder)

2004-02-27 Thread Michael Painter
http://techupdate.zdnet.com/special_report/Stratton_Sclavos.html

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Roland Perry
[1] Should VoIP include 911/999 service, and how does one resolve the various geographic location issues associated with this. I'm glad that got people talking :-) [snip - one of the many issues; I think you route the call to India and have someone ask the user where they are, then re-route the

Sail Ho! (was Re: Lawsuit on ICANN ...)

2004-02-27 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
http://fightwls.com/

Re: How relable does the Internet need to be? (Was: Re: Converged Network Threat)

2004-02-27 Thread Daniel Senie
At 02:49 PM 2/27/2004, Jeff Shultz wrote: ** Reply to message from Petri Helenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 27 Feb 2004 21:19:48 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 20 years ago, 911 was able to say unless you're the rare beast with a cell phone, basing it on the physical service address that the

Possibly yet another MS mail worm

2004-02-27 Thread Todd Vierling
This one may be a variant of the recent worms. It's spreading by way of zipfile attachments. I don't have more info yet, but my $orkplace has just been hit by it and it's unknown to McAfee and Symantec at this time. It's not W32.Netsky, as best I can tell, because of the attachment filename:

Re: Possibly yet another MS mail worm

2004-02-27 Thread Stephen Milton
Yes, I got that one too. To my peering alias by coincidence. ClamAV identifies it as Worm.Bagle.A2. ClamAV added it the database today, and mentioned that it was not in most signature databases yet. On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 07:12:42PM -0500, Todd Vierling wrote: This one may be a variant of