Re: publishing venue

2004-03-30 Thread Neil J. McRae
> I've been talking to the folks at Usenix about a venue for papers > of interest to this group. They've very eager to have such papers > at the LISA (Large Installation System Administration) conference. > > Timing is tight for this year -- the deadline is in three weeks ( > http://www.usenix.o

Re: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread jlewis
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS wrote: > > ping did _this_ > Ping is not very informative or accurate. > If you run a traceroute, which is also not very accurate, Get the best of both tools and use mtr (assuming unix-like platform). There are similar tools for windows (ping

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Gary E. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yo Brian! On Mon, 29 Mar 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote: > Brian (nanog-list) wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a way to get a UPS to trigger a generator to start, and > > to switch over to the generator power automatically or does this type of

Re: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS
> ping did _this_ Ping is not very informative or accurate. If you run a traceroute, which is also not very accurate, you can get some idea about where the delay appears to be. Is it the DSL segment? Is it somewhere else that traceroute can show you? The nice thing about delays that are this l

Re: publishing venue

2004-03-30 Thread Randy Bush
it is interesting that the theme for this year's lisa conference is "System Administration Reality - Automation, Configuration, and Users" some concepts near and dear to many of our hearts in the realm of network, as opposed to system, administration. randy

publishing venue

2004-03-30 Thread Steve Bellovin
I've been talking to the folks at Usenix about a venue for papers of interest to this group. They've very eager to have such papers at the LISA (Large Installation System Administration) conference. Timing is tight for this year -- the deadline is in three weeks ( http://www.usenix.org/events/li

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Deepak Jain
We've got a APC power strip (20A vertical "zero U" mount with 14 outlets) that failed (possibly from heat). The circuit breaker tripped and would not reset. Their response was that we had too much plugged in (never mind that we switched to a different 20A strip and it is working fine on a 20A

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Jay Hennigan
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, David Lesher wrote: > Side thought, but not a NANOG topic. What in your data center > really cares if your generator puts out 57 or 63 Hz, not 60.0? > Why? Some UPSes such as the Best FerrUPS series and other voltage regulators and line conditioners that use a ferro-resonant

Re: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Scott Weeks
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Joe Maimon wrote: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : >Greetings NANOGers, : > : >Yesterday we starting noticing long delays on an ADSL connection. : : Assuming it is not your ISP or that the telco is the ISP. : Dont believe them. Tell them to reset the port. Tell them to change t

MLPPP Follow Up - How we fixed the problem

2004-03-30 Thread Richard J. Sears
I asked the group some time ago about some problems we were seeing with MLPPP on our Cisco 7513s. I have had 5 or 6 people contact me off list to ask how we solved the problem, so I figured I would post "our" solution to the group. I am sure there may be other fixes, however this works great for

Re: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Joshua Coombs
> DSL BENCHMARK: > == > ATU-R (DS) ATU-C (US) > Capacity Used: 72% 21% > > Interleave FastInterleave Fast > Speed (kbps): 0 960 0 256 > Reed-Solomon

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > APC is very good about replacing equipment that might be their fault. > Even after warranty. I've never seen another company with as smart, > techncial staff available quickly. Too bad no one has any real > experience with their big gear

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Deepak Jain
Line Interactive APC UPS's don't do well with about 160 volts and 83 Hz input. Apparently, you can only interact so much Interacting with the line requires battery power. They can't charge and supply power at the same time, unlike traditional online UPSes. Once their batteries (LI type) go

RE: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Eric Germann
Some UPS's do also. We had a site that needed to have some work done on the building mains. Small, in the country, yada, yada, yada. Owner had a tractor mounted generator with a gearbox in front of it. Pretty stable once you tweaked it in because of the HP of tractor (small load too, like 4kVA

RE: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread John Renwick
Jon, I saw something like this once, and it was a router bug. Your ping trace seems to be saying that after the first ping something gets stuck, and ten more pings accumulate in a queue somewhere until a ten-second timer expires, or maybe ten messages in a queue is a maximum that triggers som

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
David Lesher wrote: Side thought, but not a NANOG topic. What in your data center really cares if your generator puts out 57 or 63 Hz, not 60.0? Why? Some clocks get a little nutso. Because they are powered by AC synchronous motors with gearing that assumes 60 Hz. (or 50 Hz, as the case might b

Re: UPS and generator interaction?

2004-03-30 Thread David Lesher
Oh, another detail. Some 98% of the UPSi around are "standby" units. They sit and trickle their batteries until the line fails, then quickly kick in. They take 'n' hours to recharge when the line returns. But there exist another genus. These 'full time' units ALWAYS run the load from the UPS in

Re: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Joe Maimon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings NANOGers, Yesterday we starting noticing long delays on an ADSL connection. Assuming it is not your ISP or that the telco is the ISP. Dont believe them. Tell them to reset the port. Tell them to change the pairs. Tell them to switch your line to a diffe

Re: DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Chris Brookes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This connection uses a Cisco 827 ADSL router and has several static IPs. All IPs show identical delays. Using other circuits between the same two locations, we do not see any delays. What's the weather like? ;-) See if you can get the ADSL router to give you upstream/d

DSL and/or Routing Problems

2004-03-30 Thread Jon . Kibler
Greetings NANOGers, Yesterday we starting noticing long delays on an ADSL connection. I spent most of the day trying to track down the problem and getting no where. Telco says they do not detect any problem on the line... so I am kind of lost. Anyone here have any ideas? Here are the specifics: