Re: FW: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread Alexei Roudnev
Any simple NAT (PNAT, to be correct) box decrease a chance of infection by last worms to 0. Just 0.%. O course, it does not protects very well from intentional attacks, and do not protect against e-mail bombs and java script exploints. In reality, having WIN2K after NAT box 100% time connecte

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Petri Helenius wrote: There is also a lot of "background Internet radiation" coming from p2p applications which seem to remember their peers for a week or two. These usually account for most of the unidirectional traffic knocking on doors unanswered. (not counting large DDoS). Martian packets, i

Re: BGP Exploit

2004-05-06 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: > >> That is DAMNED impressive. I've never seen a router which can take a > >> Gigabit of traffic to its CPU and stay up. What kind of router was > >> this? You mentioned Juniper and Cisco before, but I know a cisco will > >> fall over long before a

Re: Corporations becoming a LIR

2004-05-06 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 07.05.2004 00:02 Drumm, Dan wrote: > I was wondering, basically, if I have any chance at this? While RIPE > clearly states the admission policy is open to any organization, in > order to get PIR (Provider Independent routing) being a RIPE NCC is > required, and I don't know if a corporation

Re: Corporations becoming a LIR

2004-05-06 Thread Robert Waldner
On Thu, 06 May 2004 16:02:53 MDT, "Drumm, Dan" writes: >I'm starting the process of filling out an application to register the >company, based in Ratingen, DE with RIPE as a Local Internet Registry >(LIR) so that we can request a /18 (or /17 if we can get one) for the 40 >some production facilitie

Re: Corporations becoming a LIR

2004-05-06 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! > I was wondering, basically, if I have any chance at this? While RIPE > clearly states the admission policy is open to any organization, in > order to get PIR (Provider Independent routing) being a RIPE NCC is > required, and I don't know if a corporation would have a shot. > Currently, we a

Re: what the .. constant connects from adelphia.net..

2004-05-06 Thread W. Mark Herrick, Jr.
Taking this off list. -MH At 03:54 PM 5/6/2004, Nicole wrote: As shown below I keep getting these connects from various adelphia.net mta servers. No data is ever sent. Anyone know what they are up to? Nicole May 6 14:17:45 krell postfix/smtpd[90694]: connect from mta7.adelphia.net[68.168.78.

Corporations becoming a LIR

2004-05-06 Thread Drumm, Dan
Nanog:   I work as the Network Architect for a multinational corporation, Ball Corporation (http://www.ball.com).   Currently, we hold a Class B network, 162.18.0.0/16 and have been multi-homed in the past, and will be multi-homed in the future, and have our own AS. The network is very

Re: what the .. constant connects from adelphia.net..

2004-05-06 Thread Scott Call
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Nicole wrote: > > > As shown below I keep getting these connects from various adelphia.net mta > servers. No data is ever sent. Anyone know what they are up to? Checking my log for those IPs I see lots of sender verifications. (mail from <> rcpt to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, no da

what the .. constant connects from adelphia.net..

2004-05-06 Thread Nicole
As shown below I keep getting these connects from various adelphia.net mta servers. No data is ever sent. Anyone know what they are up to? Nicole May 6 14:17:45 krell postfix/smtpd[90694]: connect from mta7.adelphia.net[68.168.78.193] May 6 14:17:45 krell postfix/smtpd[90694]: disconnect

Re: MD5 proliferation statistics

2004-05-06 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On May 6, 2004, at 2:42 PM, Arnold Nipper wrote: On 06.05.2004 20:03 Steve Gibbard wrote: I'm curious as to what sorts of response rates those who have been actively contacting peers to ask for MD5 configuration have been getting, as well as whether other networks that have not been being proactiv

Re: Question about obtaining ASN #

2004-05-06 Thread Andy Dills
On Thu, 6 May 2004, Vish Yelsangikar wrote: > Hi there. > > We are in the middle of a major project that will be rolled out in the next > 3-4 months. With this project, I will be multihoming my network. To get > ready for this project, I recently applied for an AS# for my company with > ARIN an

RE: Question about obtaining ASN #

2004-05-06 Thread McBurnett, Jim
->i think you only need to wait until 30 days before, not 11 ->hours before. -> ->ARIN in my experience responds with reasonable promptness to ->ASN requests, ->and assuming your paperwork is in order, you really are ->worrying unnecessarily. -> I second that.. When we multihomed, I gave the

Re: Question about obtaining ASN #

2004-05-06 Thread Daniel Corbe
It only took me a few days from start to finish to obtain a new AS# for a client of mine. If you're only multihoming in one location, have a really small network or you're only accepting local or default only routes from your upstream providers it should be rather trivial to set up the BGP pe

Re: Question about obtaining ASN #

2004-05-06 Thread Richard Welty
On Thu, 6 May 2004 13:02:11 -0700 Vish Yelsangikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are in the middle of a major project that will be rolled out in the next > 3-4 months. With this project, I will be multihoming my network. To get > ready for this project, I recently applied for an AS# for my com

Question about obtaining ASN #

2004-05-06 Thread Vish Yelsangikar
Hi there.   We are in the middle of a major project that will be rolled out in the next 3-4 months.  With this project, I will be multihoming my network.  To get ready for this project, I recently applied for an AS# for my company with ARIN and I was denied because I don't have a multihomed

RE: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Mark Borchers
> There is also a lot of "background Internet radiation" coming > from p2p > applications which seem to remember their peers for a week or > two. These > usually account for most of the unidirectional traffic > knocking on doors > unanswered. (not counting large DDoS). > > Pete While worki

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Petri Helenius
William B. Norton wrote: For those who say things like "can't define 'junk' precisely", I would agree, but I think we also can agree that we all have a general idea of what junk is. Just looking for round #'s really. It isn't 0%, and it isn't 90% (although it seems that way sometimes). I would

Re: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread Petri Helenius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can easily fit an entire router into a PC's slimline case and the router can include a complete SI Firewall capability. The PC BIOS will allow the initial SI Firewall config to be done before booting the PC. They got to it before you did; http://www.giwano.com/ Pete

Re: MD5 proliferation statistics

2004-05-06 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 06.05.2004 20:03 Steve Gibbard wrote: > I'm curious as to what sorts of response rates those who have been > actively contacting peers to ask for MD5 configuration have been getting, > as well as whether other networks that have not been being proactive about > this have been seeing contact ra

MD5 proliferation statistics

2004-05-06 Thread Steve Gibbard
Packet Clearing House has routers at a several exchange points, which we use to collect local snapshots of the routes available at the exchanges. To do this, we peer with as many of the participants at each exchange as possible. We're mainly just collecting data, so route flaps aren't a huge prob

Re: orkut dns?

2004-05-06 Thread Stephen Stuart
> i smell a hijack. the correct data are on google's servers. ... or a transfer that the registry didn't handle so well. % whois -h whois.markmonitor.com orkut.com shows data consistent with the display below. The ?.gtld-servers.net servers are apparently still pointing to nameservers of the

RE: BGP Exploit

2004-05-06 Thread Smith, Donald
I don't believe it FILLED the pipe. I suspect it made the interface unusable by consuming buffer/processes/io ... Other interfaces on the system were still functional. I did NOT measure the actual through put. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GCIA http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xAF00EDCC pg

Re: Network discovery tools

2004-05-06 Thread Mark Boolootian
> Thanks for the suggestions. The network ferret tools reports to > do layer 2 discovery as well, maybe not so wishful thinking but > I could be wrong - > > http://www.panix.com/~logikos/ Thanks for the pointer. HPOV claims their layer 2 discovery is independent of vendor-proprietary techn

Re: orkut dns?

2004-05-06 Thread Christopher Chin
Today at 18:29 (+0200), Randy Bush wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 18:29:27 +0200 > From: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: orkut dns? > > > i smell a hijack. the correct data are on google's servers. Ah Hah... I'll bet friendster's behind it then. ;-) - Ch

Re: Network discovery tools

2004-05-06 Thread sgorman1
Thanks for the suggestions. The network ferret tools reports to do layer 2 discovery as well, maybe not so wishful thinking but I could be wrong - http://www.panix.com/~logikos/ - Original Message - From: Mark Boolootian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, May 6, 2004 11:59 am Subject

Re: orkut dns?

2004-05-06 Thread Randy Bush
i smell a hijack. the correct data are on google's servers. roam.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> dig @ns1.google.com. orkut.com. ns ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0s20021217 <<>> @ns1.google.com. orkut.com. ns ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30597 ;; fla

Re: orkut dns?

2004-05-06 Thread Randy Bush
for those who want to lose their (insert relevant time zone) meal, try to get useful data from whois for orkut.com randy

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 5-mei-04, at 21:55, Steve Gibbard wrote: If a few of you can stop being so pedantic for a second, the definition looks pretty easy to me: traffic unlikely to be wanted by the recipient. Presumably, if it's being sent that means somebody wanted to send it, so the senders' desires are a pretty m

Re: Network discovery tools

2004-05-06 Thread John L Lee
Sean, The one I downloaded, tried and then bought was solarwinds. They have a demo copy that you can get the magic key to. If gives as much SNMP as the router operators allow. One feature that is nice is give it the "base" router and it will discover everything attached to it. John Lee http://

Re: Network discovery tools

2004-05-06 Thread Mark Boolootian
> The best GPL tool that I've come across in a long while, as far as > network discovery goes, would have to be the discovery engine inside > Netdisco (http://www.netdisco.org). This tool is fairly Cisco-centric, > but Max has put a lot of work into a tool for folks who are tired of > CiscoW

orkut dns?

2004-05-06 Thread Randy Bush
am i wrong or is there a problem (which is a dozen hours old)? roam.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> dig +norec @a.gtld-servers.net. orkut.com. ns ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0s20021217 <<>> +norec @a.gtld-servers.net. orkut.com. ns ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: N

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Joe St Sauver
[discussing the traffic statistics reported at http://netflow.internet2.edu/ ] #Note that this is biased by a very significant factor - we're looking here at #Internet2 traffic *only*, which basically ends up meaning that email isn't seen #unless both the sender *and* recipient are at one of the

RE: Network discovery tools

2004-05-06 Thread Brian Wilson
The best GPL tool that I've come across in a long while, as far as network discovery goes, would have to be the discovery engine inside Netdisco (http://www.netdisco.org). This tool is fairly Cisco-centric, but Max has put a lot of work into a tool for folks who are tired of CiscoWorks not wor

RE: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread David Schwartz
> On Thu, 6 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > connectivity, not even wireless. But it does have an internal > > 100baseTx Ethernet port that uses a non-standard connector. > > And it also includes a router unit running off the same > > power supply as the PC but otherwise completely indepen

Network discovery tools

2004-05-06 Thread sgorman1
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good shareware or demo network discovery tool. I was hoping to find something that will show vendor type during node discovery. I came across a tool called network ferret that did the job, but nothing downloadable. I'm hoping to do some more work

Re: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:45:23 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum said: > I object to the idea that requiring a software firewall inside a host > is a reasonable thing to do. Why on earth would I want to run an > insecure service and then have a filter to keep it from being used? You object to it, I obje

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 05 May 2004 16:56:59 EDT, Marshall Eubanks said: > Look at Table's 6, 7 and 8 - email, for example, is 1/2 %, so even if all email > is spam, it's not that big a flow. Unidentified is typically about 30%, but > most of that is probably file sharing. Note that this is biased by a very sig

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 05 May 2004 12:55:04 PDT, Steve Gibbard said: > Presumably, if it's being sent that means somebody wanted to send it, so > the senders' desires are a pretty meaningless metric. Actually, there's two cases: 1) the sender intended to send it, so the sender's desires don't matter as we "know

Re: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 6 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > connectivity, not even wireless. But it does have an internal > 100baseTx Ethernet port that uses a non-standard connector. > And it also includes a router unit running off the same > power supply as the PC but otherwise completely independent. Urg,

Re: BGP Exploit

2004-05-06 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On May 5, 2004, at 7:31 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2004, Patrick W.Gilmore wrote: On May 5, 2004, at 2:39 PM, Smith, Donald wrote: No. The router stays up. The tool I use is very fast. It floods the GIGE to the point that that interface is basically unusable but the router itsel

Re: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 5-mei-04, at 0:26, Rob Nelson wrote: If the person doesn't continue to do acls/nat/firewalls, they'll just get infected after the next hole is discovered. And yes, there are plenty of holes that a firewall/nat box won't fix. Still, better than the user only doing Windows Update on the day of

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Hank Nussbacher
With all the spam, infected e-mails, DOS attacks, ultimately blackholed traffic, etc. I wonder if there has been a study that quantifies What percentage of the Internet traffic is junk? Record Broken: 82% of U.S. Email is Spam http://www.esecurityplanet.com/trends/article.php/3349921 -Hank

Re: Worms versus Bots

2004-05-06 Thread Michael . Dillon
> "Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a > dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a > terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g > wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times f

Re: What percentage of the Internet Traffic is junk?

2004-05-06 Thread Randy Bush
> With all the spam, infected e-mails, DOS attacks, ultimately blackholed > traffic, etc. I wonder if there has been a study that quantifies > > What percentage of the Internet traffic is junk? QED