Math 011 (Re: Default Points on your Internet Re: Re: Re:)

2004-06-15 Thread Edward B. Dreger
GR Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:47:49 -0400 GR From: George Roettger GR Virus infections are a day to day occurance, not some And being the status quo justifies something how? GR critical emergency DOS condition and they should be handled GR with concern but not panic. Customers are the

Re: Math 011 (Re: Default Points on your Internet Re: Re: Re:)

2004-06-15 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Edward B. Dreger wrote: (You'd not believe how many network admins were on vacation...) Some tier1's have entire staffs permanently on vacation -Dan

Re: Default Points on your Internet Re: Re: Re:

2004-06-15 Thread George Roettger
I don't know if you've noticed, but it's easier to stem the flow of inbound crap/attacks when other providers cooperate. If you don't extend a helping hand to others, don't expect it from them. (It's easier to have customers when you can resolve issues, some of which *do* require help from

Re: Math 011 (Re: Default Points on your Internet Re: Re: Re:)

2004-06-15 Thread George Roettger
GR Virus infections are a day to day occurance, not some And being the status quo justifies something how? No it doesn't justify it, it simply means it's not an emergency. * You have an infected machine that has absolutely no chance of harming anyone else. Should you care? (Yes

Re: Default Internet Service/Driver's License

2004-06-15 Thread Susan Harris
Folks, it's time to end these threads. If I have to read one more political/social analogy, I'm going to pass out ...

Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Leo Bicknell
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net, www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net servers listed in whois are failing to respond. Can someone confirm from another location?

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Drew Weaver
Similar issues with Yahoo on and off since about 8:30am (EST). -Drew -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Akamai DNS Issue? From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Jared Mauch
I've noticed this for the past ~30 minutes. (with news.yahoo). hopefully it will be fixed soon. - jared On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Mark
Confirmed from here. Google is back for us, yahoo, fedex, microsoft, and others still out. As observed, all look to relate back to akadns.net. - Mark Rekai - INetU Managed Hosting - http://www.INetU.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Phone:

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Tycho Eggen
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40AM -0400 Leo Bicknell([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net, www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net servers

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Ronald van der Pol
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40 -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net, www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net servers listed in whois are

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Blaine Christian
Can someone confirm from another location? Comments from Akamai? Google appears to be having DNS issues in several places... Luckily my internal network cache appears to remain viable. I can not resolve google from home using a more production set of DNS servers nor can a buddy of mine

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Sullivan
Leo Bicknell wrote: From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net, www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net servers listed in whois are failing to respond. Can someone confirm from

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
We are unable to make new resolutions from their servers granite# host -t ns akadns.net akadns.net name server zh.akadns.net akadns.net name server eur3.akam.net akadns.net name server zf.akadns.net akadns.net name server zc.akadns.net akadns.net name server asia3.akam.net akadns.net name server

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Pranav Sheth
Seems to be the same thing here in DFW, Texas Google is accessible and yahoo is not fully functional (login pages fail). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tycho Eggen Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Deepak Jain
We're seeing it too. Has AKAM lost any key talent that kept them straight until a few weeks ago? Isn't this the second issue to hit Nanog in as many months? DJ Blaine Christian wrote: Can someone confirm from another location? Comments from Akamai? Google appears to be having DNS issues in

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Sean McPherson
Confirmed from 216.26.128.0/18, 69.2.192.0/19, and 206.196.0.0/20. Seems to be using determinative destinations tho, as it works from some other network sources. I'm guessing only certain bits of the network are under attack or have failed for some reason, or that some parts are handling

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:27:59AM -0500, Pranav Sheth wrote: Seems to be the same thing here in DFW, Texas Google is accessible and yahoo is not fully functional (login pages fail). Google pulled references for akamais dns servers a short period ago. they are presently serving

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread variable
Hi, We've been seeing this too, but it looks to have been fixed from here (AS12703) as of about 2 minutes ago. Regards, Rich On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Deepak Jain wrote: We're seeing it too. Has AKAM lost any key talent that kept them straight until a few weeks ago? Isn't this the second

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Peter Kranz
Just came back in San Francisco.. Outage started at 5:31:59 PST and was resolved at 7:00:49 PST Peter Kranz President - Unwired Ltd Mobile: 510-207- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel Mata-Cardona Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Schlegel
Pranav Sheth wrote: Seems to be the same thing here in DFW, Texas Google is accessible and yahoo is not fully functional (login pages fail). Up here in Seattle, Google is working fine, but yahoo is broken. The main yahoo.com page loads, but none of the subdomains I have tried are resolvable.

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Daniel Golding
The Internet is largely based on (non-shared) simple algorithms and not having shared points of failure. The problem here seems to be that many folks are sharing Akamai's magic DNS algorithms. Hmm. Excess Sharing Considering To Be Harmful, anyone? Our kindergarten teachers would be shocked :)

Re: Default Internet Re: Re: Re:

2004-06-15 Thread Scott Weeks
On 14 Jun 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Weeks) writes: : : : Also the problem of off shoring spam probably should be taken into : : consideration. No matter how good the plan is if a country is willing : : not to enforce it there will be a problem. : : ding, ding,

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread wrolf . courtney
People seem to be getting around this by changing their DNS entries. E.g. www.yahoo.com always used to be a CNAME for www.yahoo.akadns.net. But now: # host www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com is an alias for www.dcn.yahoo.com. www.dcn.yahoo.com has address 216.109.118.64 www.dcn.yahoo.com has

Assurant

2004-06-15 Thread Daniel Corbe
If anyone from the Assurant Group monitors nanog, please contact me off-list. Regards, Daniel Corbe Senior Network Engineer Results Techologies, Inc. 954-921-2400 x104

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Henry Linneweh
sbc/yahoo and them wee doing upgrades on their email last night could be moving things around to accomodate -Henry --- Drew Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similar issues with Yahoo on and off since about 8:30am (EST). -Drew -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Pete Schroebel
sbc/yahoo and them wee doing upgrades on their email last night could be moving things around to accomodate -Henry --- Drew Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similar issues with Yahoo on and off since about 8:30am (EST). -Drew -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell

Yahoo Raises Stakes in E-Mail War with Google

2004-06-15 Thread Henry Linneweh
This is what I was talking about... http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ROKTUY2SVUOBMCRBAELCFFA?type=internetNewsstoryID=5421215

Re: Default Internet Service/Driver's License

2004-06-15 Thread Per Gregers Bilse
On Jun 15, 8:55am, Susan Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, it's time to end these threads. If I have to read one more political/social analogy, I'm going to pass out ... Can I help? Please? Pretty please? Pretty pretty pluuuhse? :-) -- Per

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread John Payne
--On Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:59 PM -0400 Pete Schroebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw this coming two days ago but, nobody called. Akamai's DNS was failing apart and we thought that we were just being dns blackhole! No, you didn't. You saw a different problem, asked me about it, and didn't

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
So anyone know what was the cause ? ---Mike At 09:08 AM 15/06/2004, Leo Bicknell wrote: From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net, www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net

Cellphone Virus

2004-06-15 Thread Edward B. Dreger
Scratch the comments about telephone CPE not being hacked and rolling up big bills. Interesting timing considering the recent circlej^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthreads re who's responsible for what. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns5111 Eddy -- EverQuick Internet -

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread John Neiberger
Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/15/04 1:53:00 PM So anyone know what was the cause ? http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040615/D837KIU00.html It appears that Akamai is claiming it was an international attack. John --

RE: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Mike Tancsa
Interesting At one point I did a quick sniff of my outbound traffic to one of their name server IP addressees and all looked like normal DNS queries But then again I didnt look that closely. ---Mike At 04:07 PM 15/06/2004, Brian Conant wrote: Looks like DoS

OER ready for prime time?

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Crocker
Anyone out there running 12.3(8)T with OER in a production/semi production environment? I know it is only v1.0 just wondering what people are seeing. -Matt

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Randy Bush
It appears that Akamai is claiming it was an international attack. ^ press and marketing departments i imagine that the engineers, being prudent engineers, may still be investigating randy

Re: Akamai DNS issue

2004-06-15 Thread Joe Shen
Confirm here in China. mail.yahoo.com is not reachable. I met this problem with www.toshiba.com about a month before, when www.toshiba.com could only be resolved by using ATT's DNS server cache. joe Msg sent via Spymac Mail - http://www.spymac.com

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Avleen Vig
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net, www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net servers listed in whois are

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-15 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS
Daniel Golding suggested that the problem was that many folks are sharing Akamai's magic DNS algorithms. This doesn't appear to be a problem with magic algorithms - it appears that they're sharing the _servers_, and that the reported attack on the servers means that it doesn't matter how magic

Best Pratice for MAN security?

2004-06-15 Thread Joe Shen
Hi, Is there any paper/document on best-pratice for MAN security? Is there a recommended version list for IOS or Juniper OS? thanks in advance joe Msg sent via Spymac Mail - http://www.spymac.com

Re: Points on your Internet driver's license (was RE: Even you can

2004-06-15 Thread Rob Nelson
Eventually all the bad customers end up with the same ISP, then filtering is as easy as running loose uRPF and filtering on their AS on input. And that's why we can all safely dump anything from aol.com into /dev/null, right? ;) Rob Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Math 011 (Re: Default Points on your Internet Re: Re: Re:)

2004-06-15 Thread Rob Nelson
* I have an infected machine that pounds out attacks and exploits at high speeds, hurting thousands of systems hourly. Would you like it shut off? Probably. Do you not agree that this is grounds for disco/throttling/proxy -- at least temporarily? Implementing bandwidth throttling or

Re: Yahoo Raises Stakes in E-Mail War with Google

2004-06-15 Thread andrew matthews
you know... i think yahoo will run into problems, they are going to do a lot of spending to provide good speed. Now it's just becoming who has the biggest. :) On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Henry Linneweh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I was talking about...