GR Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 21:47:49 -0400
GR From: George Roettger
GR Virus infections are a day to day occurance, not some
And being the status quo justifies something how?
GR critical emergency DOS condition and they should be handled
GR with concern but not panic. Customers are the
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Edward B. Dreger wrote:
(You'd not believe how many network admins were on vacation...)
Some tier1's have entire staffs permanently on vacation
-Dan
I don't know if you've noticed, but it's easier to stem the flow
of inbound crap/attacks when other providers cooperate. If you
don't extend a helping hand to others, don't expect it from them.
(It's easier to have customers when you can resolve issues, some
of which *do* require help from
GR Virus infections are a day to day occurance, not some
And being the status quo justifies something how?
No it doesn't justify it, it simply means it's not an emergency.
* You have an infected machine that has absolutely no chance of
harming anyone else. Should you care? (Yes
Folks, it's time to end these threads. If I have to read one more
political/social analogy, I'm going to pass out ...
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net,
www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net
servers listed in whois are failing to respond.
Can someone confirm from another location?
Similar issues with Yahoo on and off since about 8:30am (EST).
-Drew
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Akamai DNS Issue?
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
I've noticed this for the past ~30 minutes.
(with news.yahoo).
hopefully it will be fixed soon.
- jared
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to
Confirmed from here. Google is back for us, yahoo, fedex, microsoft, and
others still out. As observed, all look to relate back to akadns.net.
-
Mark Rekai - INetU Managed Hosting - http://www.INetU.net
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40AM -0400 Leo Bicknell([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net,
www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net
servers
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40 -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net,
www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net
servers listed in whois are
Can someone confirm from another location? Comments from Akamai?
Google appears to be having DNS issues in several places... Luckily my
internal network cache appears to remain viable. I can not resolve google
from home using a more production set of DNS servers nor can a buddy of
mine
Leo Bicknell wrote:
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net,
www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net
servers listed in whois are failing to respond.
Can someone confirm from
We are unable to make new resolutions from their servers
granite# host -t ns akadns.net
akadns.net name server zh.akadns.net
akadns.net name server eur3.akam.net
akadns.net name server zf.akadns.net
akadns.net name server zc.akadns.net
akadns.net name server asia3.akam.net
akadns.net name server
Seems to be the same thing here in DFW, Texas
Google is accessible and yahoo is not fully functional (login pages
fail).
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tycho Eggen
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
We're seeing it too. Has AKAM lost any key talent that kept them
straight until a few weeks ago? Isn't this the second issue to hit Nanog
in as many months?
DJ
Blaine Christian wrote:
Can someone confirm from another location? Comments from Akamai?
Google appears to be having DNS issues in
Confirmed from 216.26.128.0/18, 69.2.192.0/19, and 206.196.0.0/20. Seems
to be using determinative destinations tho, as it works from some other
network sources. I'm guessing only certain bits of the network are under
attack or have failed for some reason, or that some parts are handling
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 08:27:59AM -0500, Pranav Sheth wrote:
Seems to be the same thing here in DFW, Texas
Google is accessible and yahoo is not fully functional (login pages
fail).
Google pulled references for akamais dns servers a short period ago.
they are presently serving
Hi,
We've been seeing this too, but it looks to have been fixed from here
(AS12703) as of about 2 minutes ago.
Regards,
Rich
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Deepak Jain wrote:
We're seeing it too. Has AKAM lost any key talent that kept them
straight until a few weeks ago? Isn't this the second
Just came back in San Francisco..
Outage started at 5:31:59 PST and was resolved at 7:00:49 PST
Peter Kranz
President - Unwired Ltd
Mobile: 510-207-
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Miguel Mata-Cardona
Sent: Tuesday,
Pranav Sheth wrote:
Seems to be the same thing here in DFW, Texas
Google is accessible and yahoo is not fully functional (login pages
fail).
Up here in Seattle, Google is working fine, but yahoo is broken. The
main yahoo.com page loads, but none of the subdomains I have tried are
resolvable.
The Internet is largely based on (non-shared) simple algorithms and not
having shared points of failure.
The problem here seems to be that many folks are sharing Akamai's magic DNS
algorithms.
Hmm. Excess Sharing Considering To Be Harmful, anyone? Our kindergarten
teachers would be shocked :)
On 14 Jun 2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Weeks) writes:
:
: : Also the problem of off shoring spam probably should be taken into
: : consideration. No matter how good the plan is if a country is willing
: : not to enforce it there will be a problem.
:
: ding, ding,
People seem to be getting around this by changing their DNS entries.
E.g. www.yahoo.com always used to be a CNAME for www.yahoo.akadns.net. But
now:
# host www.yahoo.com
www.yahoo.com is an alias for www.dcn.yahoo.com.
www.dcn.yahoo.com has address 216.109.118.64
www.dcn.yahoo.com has
If anyone from the Assurant Group monitors nanog, please contact me
off-list.
Regards,
Daniel Corbe
Senior Network Engineer
Results Techologies, Inc.
954-921-2400 x104
sbc/yahoo and them wee doing upgrades on their email
last night could be moving things around to accomodate
-Henry
--- Drew Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similar issues with Yahoo on and off since about
8:30am (EST).
-Drew
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell
sbc/yahoo and them wee doing upgrades on their email
last night could be moving things around to accomodate
-Henry
--- Drew Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similar issues with Yahoo on and off since about
8:30am (EST).
-Drew
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell
This is what I was talking about...
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ROKTUY2SVUOBMCRBAELCFFA?type=internetNewsstoryID=5421215
On Jun 15, 8:55am, Susan Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks, it's time to end these threads. If I have to read one more
political/social analogy, I'm going to pass out ...
Can I help? Please? Pretty please? Pretty pretty pluuuhse?
:-)
-- Per
--On Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:59 PM -0400 Pete Schroebel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw this coming two days ago but, nobody called. Akamai's DNS was
failing apart and we thought that we were just being dns blackhole!
No, you didn't. You saw a different problem, asked me about it, and didn't
So anyone know what was the cause ?
---Mike
At 09:08 AM 15/06/2004, Leo Bicknell wrote:
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net,
www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net
Scratch the comments about telephone CPE not being hacked and
rolling up big bills. Interesting timing considering the recent
circlej^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthreads re who's responsible for what.
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns5111
Eddy
--
EverQuick Internet -
Mike Tancsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/15/04 1:53:00 PM
So anyone know what was the cause ?
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20040615/D837KIU00.html
It appears that Akamai is claiming it was an international attack.
John
--
Interesting At one point I did a quick sniff of my outbound traffic to
one of their name server IP addressees and all looked like normal DNS
queries But then again I didnt look that closely.
---Mike
At 04:07 PM 15/06/2004, Brian Conant wrote:
Looks like DoS
Anyone out there running 12.3(8)T with OER in a production/semi
production environment? I know it is only v1.0 just wondering what
people are seeing.
-Matt
It appears that Akamai is claiming it was an international attack.
^ press and marketing departments
i imagine that the engineers, being prudent engineers, may still be
investigating
randy
Confirm here in China. mail.yahoo.com is not reachable.
I met this problem with www.toshiba.com about a month before, when www.toshiba.com
could only be resolved by using ATT's DNS server cache.
joe
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 09:08:40AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
From here neither www.google.com, nor www.apple.com work. Both
seem to return CNAMES to akadns.net addresses (eg, www.google.akadns.net,
www.apple.com.akadns.net), and from here all of the akadns.net
servers listed in whois are
Daniel Golding suggested that the problem was that many folks are sharing Akamai's
magic DNS algorithms.
This doesn't appear to be a problem with magic algorithms - it appears that they're
sharing the _servers_,
and that the reported attack on the servers means that it doesn't matter how magic
Hi,
Is there any paper/document on best-pratice for MAN security?
Is there a recommended version list for IOS or Juniper OS?
thanks in advance
joe
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Eventually all the bad customers end up with the same ISP, then
filtering is as easy as running loose uRPF and filtering on their AS on input.
And that's why we can all safely dump anything from aol.com into /dev/null,
right? ;)
Rob Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* I have an infected machine that pounds out attacks and exploits
at high speeds, hurting thousands of systems hourly. Would you
like it shut off? Probably. Do you not agree that this is
grounds for disco/throttling/proxy -- at least temporarily?
Implementing bandwidth throttling or
you know... i think yahoo will run into problems, they are going to do
a lot of spending to provide good speed. Now it's just becoming who
has the biggest. :)
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 10:27:29 -0700 (PDT), Henry Linneweh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is what I was talking about...
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