Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread Paul Vixie
> > ... i'm not a defendant, just a named co-conspirator. > > Hah? Are they also naming individually all the dns operators that installed > bind patch and specifically enabled it so that wildcards would not work? the lawsuit doesn't mention the bind patch. they seem to be upset about my work

Re: Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread Tony Li
[Mass reply] Correct, I'm currently with Verio, playing ISP. Yes, I believe that this confirms that John thinks that engineers are indeed slaves. But I've known that for years. Please disregard the "rock star" crapola. More hype that I don't want... I'm just an engineer, like you, but slight

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread Chris Yarnell
> For that matter why don't they just name entire NANOG! I remember what a > reaction there was on the list and 100% of those responding were purely > negative of Verisign wildcards. Hmm, I remember a whole lot of really irrational and really unhelpful replies. Granted, there were some well tho

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: > > Anything I/we can do to help the cause? > > not at the moment. i'm not a defendant, just a named co-conspirator. Hah? Are they also naming individually all the dns operators that installed bind patch and specifically enabled it so that wildcards woul

RE: Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread Irwin Lazar
FYI: Cnet just published an interview with him this morning entitled "routing's rock star" see: http://news.com.com/Routing%27s+rock+star/2008-1035_3-5236759.html?tag=nl -Original Message- From: John Curran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:00 PM To: Wayne E. Bou

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread Paul Vixie
> Anything I/we can do to help the cause? not at the moment. i'm not a defendant, just a named co-conspirator.

Re: Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread John Curran
I believe that Tony has escaped that fate... (although the phrasing of the press release could lead one to believe that the engineering team aren't really people, but some form of property that was "sold" to Cisco ;-) /John At 5:46 PM -0700 6/17/04, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: >So does this mean

RE: Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread Burton, Chris
I was under the impression the Mr. Li had left Procket some time ago and does not work for either company currently. Chris Burton Network Engineer Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services The information contained in this e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the use of the indiv

Re: Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread Justin Ryburn
I believe Tony left the company in March. http://att.com.com/Procket+loses+star+engineer/2100-1033_3-5178211.html Last I heard, he was at Verio. Justin Ryburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Wayne E. Bouchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Curran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc:

Re: Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
So does this mean that Tony Li now works for Mr. Chambers again? :-) On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 05:21:58PM -0700, John Curran wrote: > > "SAN JOSE, Calif., June 17, 2004 - Cisco Systems, Inc., today announced a definitive > agreement to purchase the intellectual property, a majority of the enginee

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread Gordon Cook
Anything I/we can do to help the cause? Bob Martin yes. I almost missed this one. There are few entities for which i have more contempt than ICANN. But verisign heads the more contempt than ICANN list by several orders of magnitude. in my estimation it would like to control telecom by cont

Cisco Systems to Purchase Procket Networks...

2004-06-17 Thread John Curran
"SAN JOSE, Calif., June 17, 2004 - Cisco Systems, Inc., today announced a definitive agreement to purchase the intellectual property, a majority of the engineering team and select assets from privately-held Procket Networks, Inc. of Milpitas, Calif. Procket Networks is a developer of concurrent

RE: Yahoo mail public notice of problems ?

2004-06-17 Thread Cody Lerum
Ditto- Frequent delays in sending to yahoo.com -C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Loftis Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yahoo mail public notice of problems ? --On Thursday, June 1

Re: Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread Jeff Shultz
I'm having fun figuring out how altering BIND (since I assume that is the basis of their arguements) rises to the level of conspiracy... IANAL, obviously. ** Reply to message from Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:54:20 -0500 > Anything I/we can do to help the cause? > > B

Verisign vs. ICANN

2004-06-17 Thread Bob Martin
Anything I/we can do to help the cause? Bob Martin Quoted from different thread: (note that verisign has amended their complaint against icann (since the court dismissed the first one) and i'm now named as a co-conspirator. if you reply to this message, there's a good chance of your e-mail appear

Re: Yahoo mail public notice of problems ?

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Thursday, June 17, 2004 15:00 -0400 Mike Tancsa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a notice I can point non Yahoo Mail customers to explaining why there are delivery delays? We are seeing a lot of stalled deliveries again, and it would be nice to point to an explanation by yahoo as to wha

Yahoo mail public notice of problems ?

2004-06-17 Thread Mike Tancsa
Is there a notice I can point non Yahoo Mail customers to explaining why there are delivery delays? We are seeing a lot of stalled deliveries again, and it would be nice to point to an explanation by yahoo as to whats up Stalls are both at the banner not coming up marble% time telnet mx1.mail.y

NANOG 32 Call for Presentations

2004-06-17 Thread Susan Harris
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Re: Pushing GTLD zones [WAS: Akamai DNS Issue?]

2004-06-17 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On 17 Jun 2004 18:00:02 + Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (note that verisign has amended their complaint against icann (since > the court dismissed the first one) and i'm now named as a > co-conspirator. if you reply to this message, there's a good chance > of your e-mail appearing i

Re: Pushing GTLD zones [WAS: Akamai DNS Issue?]

2004-06-17 Thread Paul Vixie
> > think stability. > > I think recent events prove pretty well that Verisign GRS no longer gives > a crap about stability. Have we forgotten *.COM so quickly? oh please. i was an publically critical of *.COM and *.NET, but that's a policy problem, not an operational problem. verisign ha

Re: Pushing GTLD zones [WAS: Akamai DNS Issue?]

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Thursday, June 17, 2004 16:07 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: think stability. I think recent events prove pretty well that Verisign GRS no longer gives a crap about stability. Have we forgotten *.COM so quickly?

Re: Pushing GTLD zones [WAS: Akamai DNS Issue?]

2004-06-17 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 11:49:20AM -0400, Patrick W Gilmore wrote: > On Jun 17, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Matt Levine wrote: > > >I'll still pose the question as a theoretical one... say it was > >ultradns rather than akadns (..or any substantially large website in > >traffic having an authoritive DNS

Pushing GTLD zones [WAS: Akamai DNS Issue?]

2004-06-17 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Jun 17, 2004, at 11:37 AM, Matt Levine wrote: Ya...didn't look at the setup before I posted, oh well.. I'll still pose the question as a theoretical one... say it was ultradns rather than akadns (..or any substantially large website in traffic having an authoritive DNS attack), would verisign

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-17 Thread Matt Levine
Ya...didn't look at the setup before I posted, oh well.. I'll still pose the question as a theoretical one... say it was ultradns rather than akadns (..or any substantially large website in traffic having an authoritive DNS attack), would verisign be willing to push changes for somebody 'big' ?

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-17 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Jun 17, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Matt Levine wrote: So, were google/yahoo able to get verisign to push a change to the gtld registry to update their NS's, or was it just done during a scheduled update? What makes you think an update at the GTLDs was required? Try digging for google.com, then dig for

Re: Akamai DNS Issue?

2004-06-17 Thread Matt Levine
So, were google/yahoo able to get verisign to push a change to the gtld registry to update their NS's, or was it just done during a scheduled update? How much clout does one need to have the com zone updated/pushed/reloaded? ;) On Jun 16, 2004, at 10:28 PM, Hannigan, Martin wrote: Ok, but isn

Re: akamaie dns issue

2004-06-17 Thread David A . Ulevitch
On Jun 17, 2004, at 5:52 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote: This was in my mail this am. This is why there was an akamai dns issue. Shouldn't someone like CAIDA be able to verify these claims? (They look at more than backscatter, right?) I feel like something of this magnitude could have been noticed.

Re: akamaie dns issue

2004-06-17 Thread Curtis Maurand
This was in my mail this am. This is why there was an akamai dns issue. Curtis -- Curtis Maurand mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.maurand.com -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:49:42 -0400 From: David Kennedy CISSP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subjec

Re: AOL

2004-06-17 Thread Petri Helenius
Rob Nelson wrote: Eventually all the "bad" customers end up with the same ISP, then filtering is as easy as running loose uRPF and filtering on their AS on input. And that's why we can all safely dump anything from aol.com into /dev/null, right? ;) That´s somewhat to the same urban legends of