Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > Well, if the p2p program gets chunks of data from all sources, anyone with > a faster uplink will complete faster and thus get more chunks (as the p2p > program requests new chunks from each peer as the previous one is > finished), and thus produce

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Sean Donelan wrote: > http://www.itic.ca/DIC/global/2003/09/Top_ISPs_by_P2P_Activity.jpg "Average ratio of active P2P nodes / Available IPs". That doesn't have much to do with number of bytes transferred, right? http://www.itic.ca/DIC/global/2003/09/FastTrack_Servers_Loc

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Walter De Smedt
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:32:14PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:15:53PM -0700, Michel Py wrote: > > > > >>> Michel Py wrote: > > >>> BitTorrent is a third of p2p traffic in Sweden? Wow. In > > >>> the US it is a small blip on the radar. > > > > >> Petri Helenius wrot

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Walter De Smedt wrote: > How are ISPs monitoring P2P traffic these days? Monitoring based on > Netflow/cflowd data and fixed port numbers for application > classification doesn't seem to do the trick anymore as more P2P > applications use random port numbers or even use port

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: > you can also be fairly accurate from the flow data.. eg genuine web traffic is > short small transfers, P2P is long-lived flows of continous high usage In the long run, there is no way to accurately determine what kind of traffic everything is, an

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Walter De Smedt
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: you can also be fairly accurate from the flow data.. eg genuine web traffic is short small transfers, P2P is long-lived flows of continous high usage In the long run, there is no way to accurately determine what kind

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Petri Helenius
Walter De Smedt wrote: The next step in P2P recognition seems to be deep packet inspection with signature based detection. The major problem here is scalability - I don't see some device analyzing 1G, the typical uplink capacity of Internet gateways in a medium SP network, of traffic at layer 7. If

Re: Looking for recommendations for Datacenter off CA Faultline

2004-07-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:00:32 EDT, David Lesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > location is off any faultline, or away from other malady, that might effect its > > main servers datacenter or connectivity. Problem is, they also want them as > > physically close as possible. > http://www.havenco.co

Re: Looking for recommendations for Datacenter off CA Faultline

2004-07-18 Thread Paul Jakma
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, David Lesher wrote: http://www.havenco.com/ http://chris.nodewarrior.org/reviews/DefCon11/Lackey.html Does anyone actually know of any machines hosted on HMS Roughs[1]? www.havenco.com is not, it appears. Of the 3/4 NSes listed in whois for havenco.com, only two are

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2004-07-18 Thread SKH
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