Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Alexei Roudnev
It is all very interesting. Why we did not have such research reported on last NANOG meeting? also our grad student thomas studying p2p traffic tells me that there is no sense of localization in most (if not all) p2p networks; so i am more likely to download a movie from an Interesting. Are

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Petri Helenius
Alexei Roudnev wrote: Interesting. Are there any p2P systems which optimize traffic by localizyng it, when possible? Most p2p applications keep the connections which provide data at better speed and drop the ones which donĀ“t. The effectiveness of this criteria varies from application to

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Sean Donelan wrote: http://www.itic.ca/DIC/global/2003/09/Top_ISPs_by_P2P_Activity.jpg Average ratio of active P2P nodes / Available IPs. That doesn't have much to do with number of bytes transferred, right?

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Walter De Smedt
On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 09:32:14PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:15:53PM -0700, Michel Py wrote: Michel Py wrote: BitTorrent is a third of p2p traffic in Sweden? Wow. In the US it is a small blip on the radar. Petri Helenius wrote: Should hold water

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Walter De Smedt wrote: How are ISPs monitoring P2P traffic these days? Monitoring based on Netflow/cflowd data and fixed port numbers for application classification doesn't seem to do the trick anymore as more P2P applications use random port numbers or even use port

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: you can also be fairly accurate from the flow data.. eg genuine web traffic is short small transfers, P2P is long-lived flows of continous high usage In the long run, there is no way to accurately determine what kind of traffic everything is, and

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Walter De Smedt
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: you can also be fairly accurate from the flow data.. eg genuine web traffic is short small transfers, P2P is long-lived flows of continous high usage In the long run, there is no way to accurately determine what kind

Re: Regional differences in P2P

2004-07-18 Thread Petri Helenius
Walter De Smedt wrote: The next step in P2P recognition seems to be deep packet inspection with signature based detection. The major problem here is scalability - I don't see some device analyzing 1G, the typical uplink capacity of Internet gateways in a medium SP network, of traffic at layer 7.

Re: Looking for recommendations for Datacenter off CA Faultline

2004-07-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 21:00:32 EDT, David Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: location is off any faultline, or away from other malady, that might effect its main servers datacenter or connectivity. Problem is, they also want them as physically close as possible. http://www.havenco.com/

Re: Looking for recommendations for Datacenter off CA Faultline

2004-07-18 Thread Paul Jakma
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, David Lesher wrote: http://www.havenco.com/ http://chris.nodewarrior.org/reviews/DefCon11/Lackey.html Does anyone actually know of any machines hosted on HMS Roughs[1]? www.havenco.com is not, it appears. Of the 3/4 NSes listed in whois for havenco.com, only two are