Re: OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Joe Shen
Gmail seems to be in Beta stage. I got a Gmail account months ago, but I do not use it by now. The reason is it does not solve two bugs I met. The first is, after logining into gmail it will prompt with "Ooops, the system was unable to perform your operation. Please try again in a few seconds" if

RE: Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Michel Py
>> Michel Py wrote: >> File a complaint with the BBB of Vancouver, BC. They are known >> to the BBB. Then, let their collection goons waste their time >> and their money, and tell them that if they want to see it back >> they have to send you a prepaid box. > Mike Lewinski wrote: > Ah, excellent

Re: OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Deepak Jain
You know, I'm having trouble finding people that *don't* have gmail.com accounts already. :P -Jonathan "G-mail-less" Nichols If we are all network operators, exactly what is the benefit of having a 1GB mailbox operated by another network? Deepak "150GB and growing" Jain

Re: OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Joshua Brady wrote: I've got 2 Gmail invites up for grabs for the first 2 to email me offlist. You know, I'm having trouble finding people that *don't* have gmail.com accounts already. :P -Jonathan "G-mail-less" Nichols

RE: Blocked port 25?

2004-08-18 Thread David Schwartz
> In the last couple of days, I have received complaints from customers > not able to receive email from certain sites. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that these sites are not able to send mail to you. Assuming that they are diverse sites that don't have significant simila

Blocked port 25?

2004-08-18 Thread Byron L . Hicks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the last couple of days, I have received complaints from customers not able to receive email from certain sites. From these sites, I can't connect to our mail server, on other sites, I can. We have tried sending email, and we have also tried te

Re: Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Mike Lewinski
Michel Py wrote: File a complaint with the BBB of Vancouver, BC. They are known to the BBB. Then, let their collection goons waste their time and their money, and tell them that if they want to see it back they have to send you a prepaid box. Ah, excellent pointer! I see the Vancouver BBB lists thi

RE: Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Michel Py
> Mike Lewinski wrote: > Has anyone else has run into these scumbags? Sometime last > winter I received a call along the lines of "We'd like to > send you some materials to review". Well, they sent some > "Internet Law encyclopedia" along with an invoice for ~$700. > Of course, there was no cost m

Re: Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Mike Lewinski
Owen DeLong wrote: No... It is not a good idea to /dev/null it. If you /dev/null it, the doctrine of Acquiescence by Estoppel works in their favor (essentially latin legalise for "Silence is Consent"). Instead, you should write on the invoice that you never agreed to purchase the items and send

Re: Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Owen DeLong
No... It is not a good idea to /dev/null it. If you /dev/null it, the doctrine of Acquiescence by Estoppel works in their favor (essentially latin legalise for "Silence is Consent"). Instead, you should write on the invoice that you never agreed to purchase the items and send it back to them ce

Re: Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Mark Barker
Invoicing for unsolicited materials is commonly referred to as "mail fraud" hereabouts. The courts have consistently upheld the notion that such materials can be considered gifts. IANAL but I would advise /dev/nulling all further correspondence from these losers. -- MAB On Aug 18, 2004, at 18:3

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Vixie) writes: > in the example i posted earlier, i included some numbers from one member of > the "f troop", which showed ~21M packets from rfc1918 space over the course > of ~106 days. that's 241 queries per second. on only one host of many. > granted it's not much as

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Aug 18, 2004, at 6:46 PM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 06:12:38PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: Anyone that isn't working on this (even slowly) is helping contribute to part of the problem/mess of rfc1918 sourced packets leaking to the internet. Tell it to the unfortunate n

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Paul Vixie
> > > > Is it really enough traffic that you, as a root server operator, > > > > can't just suck it up and deal? Sure there are going to be a few > > > > folks who are misconfigured, but I can't imagine that it is enough > > > > to cause operational issues. a few folks? no. if it was a few pack

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 06:12:38PM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: > > Anyone that isn't working on this (even slowly) is helping > contribute to part of the problem/mess of rfc1918 sourced packets leaking > to the internet. Tell it to the unfortunate number of people manufacturing customer edge

Specialty Technical Publishers

2004-08-18 Thread Mike Lewinski
Has anyone else has run into these scumbags? Sometime last winter I received a call along the lines of "We'd like to send you some materials to review". Well, they sent some "Internet Law encyclopedia" along with an invoice for ~$700. Of course, there was no cost mentioned in the sales call- fo

Re: OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Brett
WOW! Overwhelming response. Haven't sent them all out yet, but all accounted for. Brett On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:51:43 -0700, Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a few to give out as well. Email me off-list and if I have > any left, I'll send an invite. > > Brett > > On Wed, 18 Aug 20

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 05:31:47PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 02:18:32PM -0700, David A. Ulevitch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is it really enough traffic that you, as a root server operator, can't > > > just suck it up and deal? Sure there are going to be

Re: Phishing (Was Re: WashingtonPost computer security stories)

2004-08-18 Thread Brett
I received a few messages as well, one with US Bank, which I don't have an account with, and they both had images attached. The image was displayed, without any external connection. As far as fighting abuse with abuse, it's not *always* a bad idea. If the databases are filled with bad entries,

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 02:18:32PM -0700, David A. Ulevitch wrote: > > > > > > Is it really enough traffic that you, as a root server operator, can't > > just suck it up and deal? Sure there are going to be a few folks who are > > misconfigured, but I can't imagine that it is enough to cause o

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread David A. Ulevitch
> Is it really enough traffic that you, as a root server operator, can't > just suck it up and deal? Sure there are going to be a few folks who are > misconfigured, but I can't imagine that it is enough to cause operational > issues. No, no operational issues at all from RFC1918 space htt

Re: filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 07:57:53PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > this seems excessive, and so i've been assuming that it was all vijay's > fault. but apparently it's not him. so which one of you isn't filtering > 1918 at your edge? (oops, it's all of you, isn't it?) Is it really enough traffic

Re: OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Brett
I've got a few to give out as well. Email me off-list and if I have any left, I'll send an invite. Brett On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:43:30 -0400, Joshua Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All gone >

Re: OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Joshua Brady
All gone

filtering 1918 (was Re: Summary with...: Domain Name System ...)

2004-08-18 Thread Paul Vixie
> That said, I do filter 1918 at my edge. > > /vijay ok everybody, vijay says the snapshot below didn't come from him. who wants to claim it, then? # tcpdump -n -c 25 net 10 or net 192.168 or net 172.16.0.0/12 tcpdump: listening on fxp0 19:52:53.787244 10.9.10.250.53 > 192.5.5.241.53: 29644 MX

OT - 3 Free Gmail invites

2004-08-18 Thread Joshua Brady
I've got 2 Gmail invites up for grabs for the first 2 to email me offlist. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Josh Brady

Re: Current street prices for US Internet Transit

2004-08-18 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deepak Jain) [Wed 18 Aug 2004, 18:52 CEST]: > Or, perhaps the better question is. How can one justify the cost of > _public_ peering when fiber cross-connects are $200-$300/month each. Perhaps not at the site previously mentioned. I believe fiber crossconnects are cheaper

Re: Current street prices for US Internet Transit

2004-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > With these US street prices in mind, how can anyone justify paying > prices of some commercial exchanges (the last offer I got from PAIX Palo > Alto was USD 5500 per month for a FE port about a year ago, and Equinix > Ashburn was not much cheaper). Ple

Re: SYN flood atacks?

2004-08-18 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
we took around a gig of port 80 syn flooding to a customer web host, it was around 12-3pm utc.. ended when the customer disappeared off the net. not sure if this is unusual tho, theres hundreds of such attacks per day globally... Steve On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry I d

Re: Current street prices for US Internet Transit

2004-08-18 Thread Deepak Jain
With these US street prices in mind, how can anyone justify paying prices of some commercial exchanges (the last offer I got from PAIX Palo Alto was USD 5500 per month for a FE port about a year ago, and Equinix Ashburn was not much cheaper). Please note: I'm not talking of the technical advantage

Re: Current street prices for US Internet Transit

2004-08-18 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
William B. Norton wrote: > The Cost of Internet Transit in… > Commit AU SG JP HK USA > 1 Mbps $720$625$490$185$125 > 10 Mbps $410$350$150$100$80 > 100 Mbps$325$210$110$80 $45 > 1000 Mbps

Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Malformed OSPF Packet Causes Reload

2004-08-18 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
mitigate the effects. This advisory is available at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20040818-ospf.shtml. Affected Products = Vulnerable Products This vulnerability was introduced by a code change that was committed to the 12.0S, 12.2, and 12.3 based release trains

Re: Current street prices for US Internet Transit

2004-08-18 Thread Andre Oppermann
Deepak Jain wrote: Have you tried running a single TCP stream over a 10 meg ethernet with a 5 megabit/s policer on the port? Do that, figure about what happens and explain to the rest of the class why this single TCP stream cannot use all of the 5 megabit/s itself. That's entirely a different exa

Re: BGP-based blackholing/hijacking patented in Australia?

2004-08-18 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004, Bevan Slattery wrote: > > Hi, > > Just to ease peoples concerns, the patent has nothing to do with > blackholing. A brief description of the way it works can be found here: > > http://www.scamslam.com/ScamSlam/whatis.shtml > > We have not disclosed the site address to t