Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link

2004-08-24 Thread Carlos Friacas
*only* internet connection? if yes, here we see once again the benefits of having a monopoly in the telecom industry. and a bad one it seems... even if the incumbent is the only way out of the island, it would seem wise (not cost-driven) to have a second cable at least connecting the island to

Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage....

2004-08-24 Thread Carlos Friacas
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Bruce Campbell wrote: On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Tony Li wrote: Did they arrest the crew? They have grounds on negligence charges... The crew of the ship for having dropped anchor presumably in defiance of 'Undersea cable, Do not anchor here' signs, or the telco for

Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link

2004-08-24 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:53:37 BST, Carlos Friacas said: if yes, here we see once again the benefits of having a monopoly in the telecom industry. and a bad one it seems... even if the incumbent is the only way out of the island, it would seem wise (not cost-driven) to have a second cable at

Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link

2004-08-24 Thread Robert Bonomi
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:53:37 +0100 (WEST) From: Carlos Friacas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link *only* internet connection? No, not exactly the -only- connection. They had some satellite-relay capacity. *LIMITED*

Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage....

2004-08-24 Thread Robert Bonomi
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 24 08:01:15 2004 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:57:29 +0100 (WEST) From: Carlos Friacas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Bruce Campbell

Re: IPV6

2004-08-24 Thread Nils Ketelsen
On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 09:35:01PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.arin.net/policy/ipv6_policy.html If you are not a LIR (and do not plan to become one): Do not even bother trying. PI-Address space does not exist. Multihoming for non-LIRs is still an open issue. last I

Re: ad.doubleclick.net missing from DNS?

2004-08-24 Thread Måns Nilsson
--On tisdag 27 juli 2004 12.34 -0400 Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The A record for ad.doubleclick.net is missing from DNS. This is causing apparent web page slowdowns when viewing web sites containing ads linked to ad.doubleclick.net Not here, even works when I'm not

Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link

2004-08-24 Thread sgorman1
This all reminds me of an old Neal Stephenson quote from a piece he did for Wired back in the day. There are more cables and a few more landing stations these days, but on the bottleneck side not much has changed In defense of telephony people, it must be pointed out that they are the ones who

Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread J. Oquendo
Hello all, wondering if anyone has seen or experienced this same problem. Currently deploying an OC12 on a campus network and am using Netgear media converters. Set up the lines and had lit fiber to the building I needed it to go to. On one end (main drop) I had light and tested the connectivity

Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link

2004-08-24 Thread Dave Katz
As of this writing, I have learned that nearly the entire state of Minnesota was recently cut off from the Internet for 13 hours because it had only one primary connection to the global Net, and that link went down. If Minnesota, of all places, is so vulnerable, one can imagine how tenuous

RE: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread kwallace
2 quick things come to mind- single mode vs multimode, or the signal is too hot and you need attenuators. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

Re: Ship seized for cutting Sri Lanka's internet link

2004-08-24 Thread Jerry Pasker
Do you have any idea of the *cost* of such a 'second cable' ? Or how _long_ it takes to install? Or how many 'hungry for business' undersea fiber installers would line up to bid such a project? ;-) (/me assumes there are some undersea fiber installers left.) -Jerry --

Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage....

2004-08-24 Thread Petri Helenius
Robert Bonomi wrote: Getting significant bandwidth on a satellite link, for any extended period, takes a *lot* of advance negotiation and arrangements. Significant bandwidth is also quite relative term. One transponder can carry about 45Mbps maximum and a satellite has only a few dozen of

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread Lane Patterson
Yes, you have experienced what is known in the field as air gap attenuation--not something you want to depend on if you want a clean link! A close relative is knot-in-the-fiber attenuation. Your subject says GigE Media converter but you say you are deploying an OC12. Which is it?

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread Deepak Jain
Can't wait until more routers start to incorporate inline optical power readings in show interface commands the way Procket did :-) Don't SFPs provide this sort of optical digital diagnostics? DJ

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Deepak Jain wrote: Can't wait until more routers start to incorporate inline optical power readings in show interface commands the way Procket did :-) Don't SFPs provide this sort of optical digital diagnostics? Apparently the CRS-1 supports this, as well as a few

Discounts on MRV gear?

2004-08-24 Thread Deepak Jain
What is a decent discount on MRV gear? Sanity checking some numbers here. Private replies are probably better, I can send a 1 line summary to the list. :) Thanks, DJ

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lane Patterson) writes: Can't wait until more routers start to incorporate inline optical power readings in show interface commands the way Procket did :-) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Deepak Jain) adds: Don't SFPs provide this sort of optical digital diagnostics? Yes, but

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread Vinay Bannai
Also, some of the SFP vendors did not necessarily provide all the optical power reading, transmit bias current, voltage, temperature etc few years ago. Nowadays it is more common for the SFP vendors to provide this information (and in a standard fashion) enabling system vendors to be more bold

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread Andy Dills
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, J. Oquendo wrote: Hello all, wondering if anyone has seen or experienced this same problem. Currently deploying an OC12 on a campus network and am using Netgear media ^^^ converters. Set up the lines and

Need a Contact From DotEarth.com / DOMAIN REGISTRATION SERVICES

2004-08-24 Thread Jeff Wheeler
Anyone here have contact information for DotEarth.com (aka: Domain Registration Services)? Other than the standard information on their website and whois data of course. Please reply off-list.

RE: Oct. NANOG - hotel? At the two month marker now.

2004-08-24 Thread Marc Sachs
Two other hotels that are worth checking: Comfort Inn (~$100 per night, Internet rate) http://www6.choicehotels.com/ires/en-us/html/HotelInfo?sid=nUACM.28A3XlJ Pg.6hotel=VA405 Holiday Inn Express (~130 per night, Internet rate) http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/hi/1/en/hd/wasex?irs=null

Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior

2004-08-24 Thread John R. Sosebee
At 01:31 PM 8/24/2004 -0700, Lane Patterson wrote: Yes, you have experienced what is known in the field as air gap attenuation--not something you want to depend on if you want a clean link! A close relative is knot-in-the-fiber attenuation. a close relative of who-pulled-this-fiber-anyway ?

Re: Oct. NANOG - hotel? At the two month marker now.

2004-08-24 Thread Jeff Wheeler
If you are looking at hotels in the Herndon/Reston area that are not walking distance to the Town Center then bus service might be a cheap alternative to rentals and cabs. The primary bus system in the Reston area is the Fairfax Connector (particularly the RIBS buses I think). Here is a

Fw: RFC 3869 on IAB Concerns and Recommendations Regarding Internet

2004-08-24 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
I don't normally cross-post items from the IETF, but I thought this particular TFC announcement would be appreciated by readers of NANOG. Cheers, - ferg 8 snip -- A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 3869 Title:

Knock, Knock - Its Attorney General John Ashcroft

2004-08-24 Thread Sean Donelan
Justice Dept. to Announce Cyber-Crime Crackdown Actions to Include Arrests, Subpoenas By Jonathan Krim Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 25, 2004; Page E05 The Justice Department is set to announce a major crackdown on cyber-crime that will include arrests, subpoenas and property

optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior)

2004-08-24 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, John R. Sosebee wrote: I have to agree .. would want not the expense of this added in. At the huge markup Cisco does regarding their optics, they have the margin to do this without hiking the price. They're already pricing in a complete SDH system in their optics markup.