Stefan Mink wrote :
> Are there other products I missed? Are there XENPAKs> already available which work with main stream switch> manufacturers although they don't sell them themselves> so far?
I know that Extreme Networks already is shipping XENPAK enabled switches. The max for a single fibers
> Are there other products I missed? Are there XENPAKs already
> available which work with main stream switch manufacturers
> although they don't sell them themselves so far?
>
> Grateful for any pointers or experiences...
Most of the current optical DWDM systems that operators use
today [i.e.
> Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> If the VSR card was $899k, the SR card was $999k and the LR
> card was $1099 you wouldn't hear any complaints from me.
That's even worse than the current prices! Given that the VSR is
currently 330k, the SR could be 450k and the IR 500k.
> It's the fact that Cisco
Grow up; when you buy a Saab "brand" part or option for a Saab car, it
costs twice as much as the same aftermarket part, which still is twice
as much as what you could get if you bought a box of 10 directly from
the manufacturer, which is twice as much as it costs them to manufacture
overseas. Eve
> Deepak Jain wrote:
> One could argue that this public & private chaffing is what
> precipitates the competition that alleviates the condition.
> If another vendor doesn't realize there is demand...
Indeed; I'll even give an idea for free:
4 port OC192 IR $1030k
4 port OC192 VSR - $330k
On Aug 28, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Michel Py wrote:
It is your netblock, you get to use it as needed.
This is not a good reason; it might be a good excuse, but not a good
reason.
Really? So if I have a /20, you are saying I cannot use it as I need
to use it?
Also, filtering will not be an issue, if
>>> Patrick W Gilmore wrote:
>>> It is your netblock, you get to use it as needed.
>> Michel Py wrote:
>> This is not a good reason; it might be a good
>> excuse, but not a good reason.
> Really? So if I have a /20, you are saying I
> cannot use it as I need to use it?
No. It's yours you can u
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004, Michel Py wrote:
> Grow up; when you buy a Saab "brand" part or option for a Saab car, it
> costs twice as much as the same aftermarket part, which still is twice
> as much as what you could get if you bought a box of 10 directly from
> the manufacturer, which is twice as muc
Is anyone aware of lists or sites dedicated to novel
uses for old hardware?
I'm trying to figure out what to do with some old working
gear that is valued practically as scrap. e.g. old lucent/ascend
max 4002 units. Me thinks they are 6 year old antiques.
On 28 Aug 2004, at 14:38, John Ferriby wrote:
Is anyone aware of lists or sites dedicated to novel
uses for old hardware?
I'm trying to figure out what to do with some old working
gear that is valued practically as scrap. e.g. old lucent/ascend
max 4002 units. Me thinks they are 6 year old antiq
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 10:28:24AM -0700, Michel Py wrote:
>
> Economics 101. Cisco (and many other vendors, BTW) are not charities.
> Their purpose is to make investors and shareholders (which includes me)
> happy. And yes, this includes reselling OEM hardware at astronomical
> prices when they
Joe Abley wrote:
Your six-year-old antiques might be perfectly fine production gear for
operators in other parts of the world. I would be trying to find a way
to ship them cheaply to South Asia or Africa (or finding some other
organisation that already works in those regions who would know how t
On 28 Aug 2004, at 18:36, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
He could sure use any gear at all that NANOGers have to spare .. and
could also use donations of (say) satellite connectivity if someone
can spare a VSAT link to replace the dialup that he's currently using
to serve these guys out of.
Anot
On Sat, Aug 28, 2004 at 06:52:01PM -0700, Joe Abley wrote:
>
>
> On 28 Aug 2004, at 18:36, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
> >He could sure use any gear at all that NANOGers have to spare .. and
> >could also use donations of (say) satellite connectivity if someone
> >can spare a VSAT link to
Joe Abley wrote:
On 28 Aug 2004, at 14:38, John Ferriby wrote:
Is anyone aware of lists or sites dedicated to novel
uses for old hardware?
I'm trying to figure out what to do with some old working
gear that is valued practically as scrap. e.g. old lucent/ascend
max 4002 units. Me thinks they are
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