Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread Douglas Otis
"J.D. Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/07/04, Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Then there's Sender-ID. Bulky XML in DNS, sigh. > > No, that was CallerID. SenderID uses a format that looks and > smells almost exactly like SPF. > > I only mention this to reduce the FUD. Sender-ID

RE: XP SP2 other than windows update

2004-09-07 Thread J. Oquendo
SP2 will take a long time to even out the quirks from Windows users. We've burned the image on to a CD for about 2000+ users and have copied the file on to users' desktops so they can double click on it for the install. For the most part, students complained about having to wait for over (and th

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread J.D. Falk
On 09/07/04, Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then there's Sender-ID. Bulky XML in DNS, sigh. No, that was CallerID. SenderID uses a format that looks and smells almost exactly like SPF. I only mention this to reduce the FUD. -- J.D. Falk

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: i don't agree. i think it's overengineered and that a simpler solution like the one at oh, hear hear. Then there's Sender-ID. Bulky XML in DNS, sigh. should have been deployed years ago, but i don't think SPF, or thing

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Jon Lewis wrote: Any network that doesn't already have it, I highly recommend signing up for AOL's feedback loop (aka scomp reports) at http://postmaster.aol.com/tools/fbl.html. This will give you a sort of early warning system notifying you of

Re: Seeking abuse contact for 142.177.73.59

2004-09-07 Thread Dave Dennis
Dear Nanog Readers, I want to thank everyone that corrected my typo mistake, the domain for email was correct locally, then I did not cut/paste it into the nanog mail, resulting in a typo which many were quick to spot. Thanks for the attention to detail! Was also thanks to the list able to find

RE: MPLS signaling

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Khavkine
So most people do manual QoS/bandwidth provisioning ? I'm looking into this for L2 over MPLS VPN (Martini draft). Thanx Paul On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Rump Bryant wrote: > >RSVP is commonly used for LSP signaling/setup at least in one of the largest >tier one's MPLS architecture. I'm not sure how

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Jakma) writes: > SPF is worthless. i don't agree. i think it's overengineered and that a simpler solution like the one at should have been deployed years ago, but i don't think SPF, or things like SPF, are at all worthless. every

DOJ Opposes ALLTELL petition

2004-09-07 Thread Hannigan, Martin
Folks, operational value is CALEA compliance. FYI. Note: Randy Bush has generously contributed cycles to a list at PSG.COM to engage in lawful intercept discussions (technical/psuedo-legal) that are off-topic to NANOG. If enough people indicate interest in a private followup, I'll summarize a

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread J.D. Falk
On 09/07/04, Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > >>Also, SPF doesnt tell you whether it is spam. > > > >Of course. It never pretended to do so. > > Right, but a lot of seem people to be under the mistaken impression > it will have some ef

RE: MPLS signaling

2004-09-07 Thread Rump Bryant
RSVP is commonly used for LSP signaling/setup at least in one of the largest tier one's MPLS architecture. I'm not sure how many large ISPs use e2e QoS enforcement (none in my experience with public IP networks). Several use DSCP (actually IP Precedence) at the edge (CPE to ISP edge only). RSVP

Re: Seeking abuse contact for 142.177.73.59

2004-09-07 Thread Mike Tancsa
Try @aliant.ca (note the one L). Bell.ca (BCE) is a majority owner in Aliant which is an amalgamation of the various old provincial incumbent telcos and they are just finishing up a nasty protracted strike as well. ---Mike At 01:52 PM 07/09/2004, Dave Dennis wrote: Greetings, Attemptin

Seeking abuse contact for 142.177.73.59

2004-09-07 Thread Dave Dennis
Greetings, Attempting to locate someone in authority for ip 142.177.73.59. Was referred to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but mail to that address bounces after rattling around inside Exchange for a bit. Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also bounces, with a different message. Was referred to [EMAIL PROTECTED] by

Re: Hurricane Frances telecommunication outages

2004-09-07 Thread chuck goolsbee
Florida EOC reports 1.1 million wireline customer outages state-wide. 30% cell phone coverage outage reported. Coordinating communication set How about colo and transit? I have a friend (and competitor in some niche hosting markets) in South Florida who appears to have been blown off the Net (S

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Jakma
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: Also, SPF doesnt tell you whether it is spam. Of course. It never pretended to do so. Right, but a lot of seem people to be under the mistaken impression it will have some effect on spam. No. Where did you find the figures? http://www.techworld.com/s

Re: XP SP2 other than windows update

2004-09-07 Thread Matt Ghali
FWIW, SP2 rendered my Sony Vaio PCG-SR17 completely useless. From what I can tell, it replaced the PCMCIA bridge driver (pcmcia.sys) with one that does not work, and there is no way to "roll back" the driver to the pre-XP2 one without rolling back the entire OS. I am in an ongoing dialog with MS

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 08:14:05AM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 07:27 AM 07/09/2004, Thornton wrote: > > Only thing you can do is try to call them but that probably wont get you > > anywhere. > Thats not been our experience at all. On the 2 times we have had to talk > to them we didnt have

MPLS signaling

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Khavkine
Hi folks. What is the most common way of doing MPLS signaling for LSP setup and End to End QoS enforcement ? LDP ? RSVP ? BGP-TE or OSPF-TE ? Thanx Paul Paul Khavkine Network Administrator DISTRIBUTEL Communications. 740 Notre Dame West, Sui

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Jon Lewis wrote: > Yeah...there's a certain amount of GIGO since the scomp system relies on > the lusers to decide what's spam and what's not...but that's not a serious > problem. IME, AOL won't block you unless you're getting thousands of > scomp complaints/day and seem to b

Forum Commemorating the 35th Anniversary of the Internet

2004-09-07 Thread Scott Weeks
: From: Fergie (Paul Ferguson) : Date: Sun Aug 29 14:13:09 2004 : : "Thirty-five years after computer scientists at UCLA linked two bulky : computers using a 15-foot gray cable, testing a new way to exchange data : over networks, what would ultimately become the Internet remains a work : in progre

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > And you will also get random emails that your users have sent to AOL users, > who then click on "Report as spam" seemingly at random. > > I've received Spam reports on e-mail asking when someone's kids should be > picked up at school, giving di

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Thornton
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 07:59, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Jon Lewis wrote: > > > Any network that doesn't already have it, I highly recommend signing up > > for AOL's feedback loop (aka scomp reports) at > > http://postmaster.aol.com/tools/fbl.html. This will give you a s

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Jon Lewis wrote: > Any network that doesn't already have it, I highly recommend signing up > for AOL's feedback loop (aka scomp reports) at > http://postmaster.aol.com/tools/fbl.html. This will give you a sort of > early warning system notifying you of spam issues on your net

TDM over IP products

2004-09-07 Thread Sam Stickland
Hi, I'm interested in experiences (good and bad) that people have had with various TDM over IP products. If people can reply off-list I'll post a summary to the list in a day or two. Sam

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Robert Blayzor wrote: I'm not calling them out on it, I'm just stating that rejecting mail with a 500 series error due to a PTR record not being looked up will cause more problems and benefit. Temporary DNS errors do occur so slapping mail with a 500 could and will reject legit mail. Of course

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Thats not been our experience at all. On the 2 times we have had to talk > to them we didnt have much trouble getting through to someone clueful and > useful. Compared to the other big providers I have dealt with in the past > they were by far the most a

Re: 292 cellular towers out of service due to generator failure

2004-09-07 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Thornton wrote: > On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 15:41, Sean Donelan wrote: > > Due to a generator failure, 292 Sprint wireless towers in Polk, Pasco, > > Hillsborough, Pinellas, Manatee, Hardee, Sarasota and Charlotte counties > > were disrupted. There is no estimated time for restora

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Robert Blayzor
Peter Galbavy wrote: Where does the 400lb gorilla lie down ? Whereever it likes. AOL does pretty much anything it wants to. If they start 500'ing your mail, it becomes your problem. Unless you have a large budget and a good legal team. I'm not calling them out on it, I'm just stating that rejecti

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Mike Tancsa
At 07:27 AM 07/09/2004, Thornton wrote: Only thing you can do is try to call them but that probably wont get you anywhere. If you have enough customers on AOL they can complain and if you really have a lot could get it removed. But for the most part your just SOL Thats not been our experience at

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Matthew Crocker
I have had my mail rejected by AOL in the past. I found their error messages very descriptive and the AOL mail team very responsive. The problem was on my end and I found and fixed it. Have you gone to the AOL mail website yet? Go to http://postmaster.aol.com/ it pretty much tells you ho

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 11:32:11AM +0100, Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 24 lines which said: > Also, SPF doesnt tell you whether it is spam. Of course. It never pretended to do so. > Indeed, apparently majority of SPF-valid email at moment is spam! No. Where did you find

Re: 292 cellular towers out of service due to generator failure

2004-09-07 Thread Thornton
On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 15:41, Sean Donelan wrote: > Due to a generator failure, 292 Sprint wireless towers in Polk, Pasco, > Hillsborough, Pinellas, Manatee, Hardee, Sarasota and Charlotte counties > were disrupted. There is no estimated time for restoration of power > to the Sprint switch serving

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Thornton
On Tue, 2004-09-07 at 04:15, Peter Galbavy wrote: > Robert Blayzor wrote: > > One would hope that they're rejecting the incoming mail with a 400 > > series error and not 500 series. > > Where does the 400lb gorilla lie down ? Whereever it likes. > > AOL does pretty much anything it wants to. If

Re: Are AOL's MXs mass rejecting anyone else's emails?

2004-09-07 Thread Peter Galbavy
Robert Blayzor wrote: One would hope that they're rejecting the incoming mail with a 400 series error and not 500 series. Where does the 400lb gorilla lie down ? Whereever it likes. AOL does pretty much anything it wants to. If they start 500'ing your mail, it becomes your problem. Unless you have

RE: XP SP2 other than windows update

2004-09-07 Thread Thornton
not in all areas they are not at any of the retail stores here. On Mon, 2004-09-06 at 18:58, Jim Popovitch wrote: > Fwiw, XP SP2 CDs are available at some PC retail outlets. I picked one > up from Best Buy late last week, and saw them again at a CompUSA over > the weekend. As with the download

Re: Spammers Skirt IP Authentication Attempts

2004-09-07 Thread Paul Jakma
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: I think SPF is an important step in getting rid of people pretending to be someone else. If you have SPF records, and they match the mail, chances are you are who you say you are. Not really. For that you need X.509 or PGP and web-of-trust. Also, SPF d

Re: Fwd: APRICOT 2005 Fellowship and CFP Announcement

2004-09-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Bill Manning wrote: From Philip Smith. Begin forwarded message: Well - that's the call for papers. As nanog is read by far more than just people from the USA - the fellowship information is at http://www.2005.apricot.net/fellowship.html for those who want to apply for fellowships. regards srs (

Fwd: APRICOT 2005 Fellowship and CFP Announcement

2004-09-07 Thread Bill Manning
>From Philip Smith. Begin forwarded message: Subject: APRICOT 2005 Fellowship and CFP Announcement Hi everyone, Please find below the call for presentations and tutorials for the APRICOT 2005 conference in Kyoto, Japan. philip -- CALL FOR APRICOT 2005 CONFERENCE PRESENTATIONS AND TUTORIALS (A

Re: DNS Weather Report 2004-09-07

2004-09-07 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 09:29:59AM +0800, Joe Shen wrote: > What does "find" in the report mean? no lookup > timeout or no out-of-sync? I guess you mean "fine!". That means that I've found no problems with the respective zone. Best regards, Daniel

Re: OT- need a new GSM provider

2004-09-07 Thread Dave Crocker
vijay, vg> Lets see Malayasia vg> Indonesia Over the last few months, I have had no problems using my Cingular GSM Treo calling the US from Malaysia, Indonesia and China. Haven' tried calling to other countries, though. (And this is probably the only positive thing I can find to say about Cin