Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Daniel Roesen [12/09/04 20:32 +0200]: > But when it comes to mailing list traffic volume, there is no > companion that I'm aware of. I rather believe that's a feature, not a bug

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Bill Woodcock
> > The "NOG" philosophy don't work in Europe. > simply not true. Check out SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/ And there's NordNOG. -Bill

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote: The "NOG" philosophy don't work in Europe. Same problem of very low activity for local NOG like FRnog, Swissnog,... simply not true. Check out SwiNOG http://www.swinog.ch/ mort than 500 subscribers, several closed working groups (antispam, lawful interception, BBCS), 2 yea

RE: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Michel Renfer
Hi Nicolas > The "NOG" philosophy don't work in Europe. That's not correct. The concept works in switzerland with SwiNOG very well - at least two meetings every year and a good organized communitiy behind SwiNOG. http://www.swinog.ch cheers, michel

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Nicolas DEFFAYET
On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 20:23, Arnold Nipper wrote: > On 12.09.2004 20:05 Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote: > > http://euronog.org/mailing-lists.php > *LOL* This list is so dead you won't believe it ... > > There is no real correspondent to NANOG in Europe. EOF > (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/index.html

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 06:55:12PM +0100, Ken Gilmour wrote: > Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/eof/ But when it comes to mailing list traffic volume, there is no companion that I'm aware of. Many issues are discussed on other specialized RIPE mailing

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 12.09.2004 20:05 Nicolas DEFFAYET wrote: > On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 19:55, Ken Gilmour wrote: > > Hi Ken, > > >>Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in >>subscribing... I've learned a lot from this list but would like to find a closer >>one as well :-) > >

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Ken Gilmour
Brilliant thanks! I got a swiss offlist one too that i subscribed to as well. (looks like they have an interesting ddos tracking one too!) Maybe i should have broadened my google search with "euro nog" instead of "european network operators group". Thanks for your help Regards, Ken On Sun,

Re: European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Nicolas DEFFAYET
On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 19:55, Ken Gilmour wrote: Hi Ken, > Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in > subscribing... I've learned a lot from this list but would like to find a closer > one as well :-) http://euronog.org/mailing-lists.php Subscribe: [EMAIL PROT

European Nanog?

2004-09-12 Thread Ken Gilmour
Hey there! Does anyone know of a list like nanog for Europe? I would be interested in subscribing... I've learned a lot from this list but would like to find a closer one as well :-) Thanks for your help Ken -- "Microsoft isn't evil, they just make really crappy operating systems."

Re: Ivan and outages

2004-09-12 Thread Alex Rubenstein
I have some involvement with a telecom/internet company located in Grenada. This was sent to me in the last day or so. > With reference to staff in Grenada, 4 out of 6 involved people are > accounted for. The country as you are probably aware has lost over half > it's buildings. Over 90% of the

Re: ISP Policies

2004-09-12 Thread Edward B. Dreger
RG> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:36:58 +0530 RG> From: Rohit Gupta RG> On a related note : Do ISPs ever tweak around with Local RG> Prefs and weights so as to select BGP paths with greater AS RG> PATH length? Definitely. Case in point: I set up a network a few years ago that included a choice bet

Re: Untrustworthy Internet providers

2004-09-12 Thread J. Oquendo
On Sat, 12 Sep 2004, Sean Donelan wrote: > The folks with the tinfoil hats are going to need extra shielding. http://www.politrix.org/mgz/tinfoil.jpg > If you believe your provider is untrustworthy, mail storage is a small > part of your problems. An untrustworthy provider doesn't need to run

Re: 30 Gmail Invites

2004-09-12 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Sep 12, 2004, at 8:05 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Maybe those of you who created accounts using the links provided by todd could post some invites. NOOO! No more Gmail on NANOG! Before anyone does such a moronic thing, please note that all people subscribed here, or reading the

Ivan and outages

2004-09-12 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine
I'm looking for operational status information from Grenada, Jamaica, Grand Caymen, and Cuba. Anyone with clue drop me a note off-list, I will post a summary.

Re: 30 Gmail Invites

2004-09-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Nakul Malik wrote: Maybe those of you who created accounts using the links provided by todd could post some invites. -Nakul Before anyone does such a moronic thing, please note that all people subscribed here, or reading the archives, now and for the future have access to the accounts from tho

Untrustworthy Internet providers

2004-09-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > I agree. The privacy implications are *really* scary. (And they're > > sufficiently worse for non-subscribers that I've contemplated blocking > > gmail-bound messages from my (personal) systems.) > > While we're on _that_ subject, what about Postini

RE: 30 Gmail Invites

2004-09-12 Thread Nakul Malik
Maybe those of you who created accounts using the links provided by todd could post some invites. -Nakul Nakul Malik Nakul Malik Consultancy Services Ph: +91-9811424477 H-342 New Rajendra Nagar New Delhi - 110060 INDIA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: 30 Gmail Invites

2004-09-12 Thread Nicholas Suan
> I'm with Paul on the "makes sense" to run your own personal mail server > - for me, and others who _can_ run their own mail server. For those > who can't, public mail servers are all "scary". Gmail is no more scary > than hotmail, yahoo, msn, verizon, earthlink, or any of a billion other > m