On 11/15/04 12:18 AM, Daniel Roesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunate, even today there are not many option of transit ISPs
who have a real native dual-stack deployment (I consider 6PE to be
native)... most have just tunnels inside. Currently I cannot think
of more than... hm... 3-4
From personal experience, whether you check that you want further
mailings from MoveOn.org or not, they send them to you anytime you send
anything (petitions, letters, etc) from their website. They're also not
that great about taking you off when you complain (I have had to
complain 2-3 times
on Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 04:45:24AM +, Paul Vixie wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Donelan) writes:
http://www.eff.org/wp/?f=SpamCollateralDamage.html
excerpt:
I. The Problem
MoveOn.org is a politically progressive organization that engages
in online
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 09:29:25AM -0500, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
On 11/15/04 12:18 AM, Daniel Roesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunate, even today there are not many option of transit ISPs
who have a real native dual-stack deployment (I consider 6PE to be
native)... most have
Well-written or not, this piece has a vague odor of blaming the victim
for the crime. To cite the specific example quoted below, if
cash-hungry spam havens like China, Korea and others took action locally
to reduce the spam-friendly nature of many of their online providers,
the filtering
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:10:03 +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:
only leaf sites use the 32 bit AS numbers. 32 bit AS numbers for
transit ASes are best avoided until everyone has upgraded.
Umm... I'll bite.. ;)
How do we know/tell that everyone has upgraded? (As opposed to just
saying It's
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 11:03 -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 09:29:25AM -0500, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
On 11/15/04 12:18 AM, Daniel Roesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunate, even today there are not many option of transit ISPs
who have a real native
On 11/15/04 11:03 AM, Jared Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 09:29:25AM -0500, Christian Kuhtz wrote:
On 11/15/04 12:18 AM, Daniel Roesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunate, even today there are not many option of transit ISPs
who have a real native dual-stack
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On 2004-11-14, at 18.10, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 13-nov-04, at 18:11, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
30% usage and we need 32 bit ASNs?
Usage is of course irrelevant, what counts is how many free ones are
left. This number is well below 70%.
Can someone from Deutsch Telecom please contact me off list.
Thanks
**
Richard J. Sears
Vice President
American Internet Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.adnc.com
On 15-nov-04, at 18:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
only leaf sites use the 32 bit AS numbers. 32 bit AS numbers for
transit ASes are best avoided until everyone has upgraded.
How do we know/tell that everyone has upgraded? (As opposed to just
saying It's been N+4 years now, everybody must have
On 11/15/04, Steven Champeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said, I've long since stopped listening (or contributing) to the EFF
as I see their war on antispammers as counterproductive. John Gilmore runs
a well-known open relay at toad.com, and for some reason thinks that free,
anonymous
Friendly reminder that ARIN has been allocating from 71/8 and 72/8 since
August. If you have static bogon filters, PLEASE make sure they are
updated.
Jerimiah
Tularosa Communications
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
John Gilmore runs a well-known open relay at toad.com, and for some
reason thinks that free, anonymous speech is important enough to let
spammers drown it out through sheer volume.
Someone famous said something about paying a high price for free
on Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 01:06:09PM -0800, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
John Gilmore runs a well-known open relay at toad.com, and for some
reason thinks that free, anonymous speech is important enough to let
spammers drown it out through sheer
Hi, NANOGers.
] Friendly reminder that ARIN has been allocating from 71/8 and 72/8 since
] August. If you have static bogon filters, PLEASE make sure they are
] updated.
Tired of updating your filters? Worry no more! Fire up a peering
session or two (we advocate two) to the Bogon
About half of the devices within my on private network are statically
defined and for local use only. They will never need global access.
Because they are awkward to configure I do not want to renumber, ever.
My
solution is to use RFC1918 address space for this network.
Use unique
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
And this affects those of us with not-so-old, not-so-slow machines how?
By the fact that there is no way in hell that he could relay a large
amount of spam...
The bottom line is that Gilmore, and the EFF, have taken a very soft
stance on spam,
On Nov 15, 2004, at 5:47 PM, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
In a nutshell, email requires accountability. The EFF apparently
thinks
that is too high a price to ask for email.
I think you're missing the point. Anonymous communication saves lives,
allows people to blow the whistle, and in general it
on Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 02:47:14PM -0800, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote:
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
And this affects those of us with not-so-old, not-so-slow machines how?
By the fact that there is no way in hell that he could relay a large
amount of spam...
You seem to be
On 15-nov-04, at 23:10, Adi Linden wrote:
Aren't unique site locals associated with the mac address?
Not really. Unique site local addresses as such don't have anything to
do with MAC addresses. However, most IPv6 addresses (including,
presumably, unique site locals when they are deployed)
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:07:20 -0500 Peering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From personal experience, whether you check that you want further
mailings from MoveOn.org or not, they send them to you anytime you send
anything (petitions, letters, etc) from their website. They're also not
that great
ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a
small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at least,
reclaim resources in use by defunct organizations that are no longer
paying the maintenance
At a meeting a few weeks ago, a bunch of us made the claim that the NANOG
list could in most cases be self-policing. In that spirit, it seems worth
pointing out that this discussion of the Russian Mafia, Chechen freedom
fighters, the EFF, and China, seems to be heading in a direction that
would
http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2004/111504dotnet.html
-Hank
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On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:
ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a
small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 08:18 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:
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On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote:
ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a
small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not
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